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Take the Pew quiz to see what category you are in: (Original Post) spooky3 Feb 2022 OP
Establishment Liberal Kaleva Feb 2022 #1
I scored Progressive Left. tblue37 Feb 2022 #2
I did, too. phylny Feb 2022 #51
I am an establishment liberal. Only a lousy 12% TreasonousBastard Feb 2022 #3
I am Progressive Left Miguelito Loveless Feb 2022 #21
Establishment Liberal..Yea. SheilaAnn Feb 2022 #4
Progressive left Jerry2144 Feb 2022 #5
I scored progressive left Green Line Feb 2022 #6
Progressive Left. Tracer Feb 2022 #7
Democratic Mainstay crazylikafox Feb 2022 #8
Me too... 2naSalit Feb 2022 #27
Same here wryter2000 Feb 2022 #41
Establishment Liberals ... along with 13% of the public ARPad95 Feb 2022 #9
Your best fit is... Establishment Liberals ... along with 13% of the public a kennedy Feb 2022 #10
Establishment Liberal WillUSAF Feb 2022 #11
Democratic Mainstay Mossfern Feb 2022 #12
Progressive left for me. brush Feb 2022 #13
Progressive Left, which surprises me. I think of myself as a moderate liberal. sinkingfeeling Feb 2022 #14
I took the test, and it came back, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #15
Progressive Left ... along with 6% of the public NewHendoLib Feb 2022 #16
Democratic Mainstay happybird Feb 2022 #17
I am: LoisB Feb 2022 #18
Progressive Left Dave says Feb 2022 #19
"Progressive Left ... along with 6% of the public." It's possible I'm much more radical than that. hunter Feb 2022 #20
Democratic Mainstay redstatebluegirl Feb 2022 #22
Progressive left CottonBear Feb 2022 #23
Progressive Left Chautauquas Feb 2022 #24
Establishment Liberal. Greybnk48 Feb 2022 #25
Yes. Nt spooky3 Feb 2022 #29
Turn it around. Liberal Establishment. Think HRC and Joe Biden. highplainsdem Feb 2022 #30
Not particularly. It's just a label. tinrobot Feb 2022 #38
There's no such thing as 'work within the system...' hunter Feb 2022 #47
Those laws changed in the '60s - within our current system. tinrobot Feb 2022 #52
Progress is made by pushing past the boundaries of the current "system." hunter Feb 2022 #56
Progressive Left hedda_foil Feb 2022 #26
Establishment Liberal. highplainsdem Feb 2022 #28
Oh shock. Anothe Establishment Liberal here Maeve Feb 2022 #31
Establishment Liberal NavyDem Feb 2022 #32
Progressive Left. cachukis Feb 2022 #33
Progressive Left malaise Feb 2022 #34
Establishment Liberal... Patton French Feb 2022 #35
Fuck those questions. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #36
Establishment Liberal gristy Feb 2022 #37
Democratic Mainstay sarisataka Feb 2022 #39
Progressive Left and not even a little surprised by that Bettie Feb 2022 #40
Outsider left usajumpedtheshark Feb 2022 #42
Progressive Left - but I would have been surprised if it was anything else wackadoo wabbit Feb 2022 #43
Progressive Left bif Feb 2022 #44
Progressive Left. n/t Coventina Feb 2022 #45
Progressive Left DiamondShark Feb 2022 #46
Progressive Left Chellee Feb 2022 #48
Establishment Liberal BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #49
Progressive Left, myccrider Feb 2022 #50
Aren't online quizzes just a data harvesting trick? lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #53
Yes. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #55
Democratic Mainstay. Probably accurate. SKKY Feb 2022 #54

Tracer

(2,769 posts)
7. Progressive Left.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

That surprised me a little. I thought most of the questions were just liberally framed.

Mossfern

(2,487 posts)
12. Democratic Mainstay
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 01:39 PM
Feb 2022

Then I took the test again using the opposite answers that I did the first time around
and came out as a Faith and Flag Conservative.

It was interesting to see what the averages were though.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
20. "Progressive Left ... along with 6% of the public." It's possible I'm much more radical than that.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:06 PM
Feb 2022

Nevertheless my public politics are always practical.

Anyone who says "both parties are the same" or throws their "progressive" vote away on some unelectable candidate hoping to send some kind of message needs to be smacked with a clue stick.

Politics is a messy business.

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
38. Not particularly. It's just a label.
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:48 PM
Feb 2022

I answered a few questions that we could 'work within the system' to solve problems.

I guess that makes me establishment. Sure, whatever.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
47. There's no such thing as 'work within the system...'
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 09:44 PM
Feb 2022

... there's only what works.

Sometimes you have to refuse to move to the back of the bus.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosa_Parks

tinrobot

(10,895 posts)
52. Those laws changed in the '60s - within our current system.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:46 PM
Feb 2022

That's where I was going with it. I'm all for radical change, but not so keen on tossing out the Constitution.

But, apparently, that makes me "establishment". OK.

hunter

(38,311 posts)
56. Progress is made by pushing past the boundaries of the current "system."
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:40 PM
Feb 2022

But it has to be a measured approach. The "system" of Rosa Park's time was legally oppressing people who were not white and the white majority tacitly supported that oppression. People seeking progress had to step outside of that system to shed light on the injustice of it.

On the other hand storming the Capital Building to overturn a legitimate election is not a measured response. It doesn't matter if it's fascists and white supremacists or radical leftists who are scaling the walls.

I agree with you, the question was ambiguous, but it does highlight a difference between "conservative" and "liberal" Democrats.



NavyDem

(525 posts)
32. Establishment Liberal
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 02:48 PM
Feb 2022

I describe myself as socially liberal, and fiscally conservative. The term "Establishment" has become more a slur directed at people that are more into incremental change.

Some of the questions presented were way too black and white. For example, the question about prison time. I selected not enough, based on the fact that too many white, or wealthy individuals that do not serve enough time for the crimes they commit. The problem however, is that there is no room for nuance. As we all know, POCs are disproportionately given harsher sentences for the same crimes.

Bettie

(16,092 posts)
40. Progressive Left and not even a little surprised by that
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 03:51 PM
Feb 2022

though, I know that our little 6% corner is despised by many.

wackadoo wabbit

(1,166 posts)
43. Progressive Left - but I would have been surprised if it was anything else
Thu Feb 10, 2022, 05:04 PM
Feb 2022

When I take the Political Compass test, I'm always far to the left of Bernie!

myccrider

(484 posts)
50. Progressive Left,
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:56 AM
Feb 2022

which isn’t surprising, but I agree that many of the questions’ choices lacked nuance. For example, I answered the prison sentence question as "too long" because of the mass incarceration of POCs and drug sentencing but I also think that rich/influential people get away with a huge amount of crime and aren’t held accountable. I also think "increased trade" has been a mixed bag for working people because there were few, if any, regulations to protect workers from income loss while trade increased. So trade could have been increased (maybe not as much) without huge losses if the gov’t had effectively mitigated the impact.

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