Is there a way to get conservatives out of trucking?

[fescuerescue]

Why are they allowed to have so much power over commerce.

[LiberatedUSA]

1. I don't understand the question.

Do you mean as in truckers? Like don’t hire people if they vote a certain way? That likely won’t pass constitutional muster.

[OAITW r.2.0]

2. AI?

They may be accelerating their own decline.

[Trueblue Texan]

3. Their licenses should be revoked along with their insurance

[brooklynite]

6. Followed by BLM supporters?

I’m mean, if we’re letting State Governments seize the licenses of people who disagree with them, I sure that DeSantis / Kemp / Abbott will have some ideas.

[Zeitghost]

11. Very good point

Those that advocate for authoritarian policies seem to think those same policies will never be used against them and I've never understood why.

[NutmegYankee]

47. Exactly!

[Trueblue Texan]

77. I am certainly not advocating for authoritarian policies.

But I expect to be held accountable under the law like anyone else and these truckers should be also.

[Scrivener7]

17. For these guys who are violating a lot of laws about noise and where they can park, etc,

I DO think every possible legal summons should be used, though. There should be consequences for their having made the lives of the people living in the city hell for an extended period.

But any consequence needs to be because of a law they broke, not their political opinion.

[brooklynite]

18. "These guys" are Canadian.

I’m not aware that American truckers are breaking the law.

[Scrivener7]

19. Yes I know.

[BlackSkimmer]

20. People don't seem to grasp this.

[Scrivener7]

25. Of course I know this. Why would it make a difference to what I said?

[BlackSkimmer]

85. It doesn't.

I was agreeing with you.

[Scrivener7]

98. Oh. I lost the thread there.

[Trueblue Texan]

78. EXACTLY!!!

[Demsrule86]

48. Exactly, I can't believe anyone would think this is a good idea...

[Trueblue Texan]

76. No.

They're licenses should be revoked NOT because they are protesting or for WHAT they are protesting. I agree that is their right. Their licenses should be revoked because they are blocking traffic, commerce and infringing on the rights of their fellow citizens to move freely. They don't own those bridges, taxpayers do. They have no right to block them. I will admit they have every right to protest, but not the way they are doing it.

[Jedi Guy]

139. A number of BLM protests did the same and blocked highways or major intersections.

So they blocked traffic/commerce and infringed on the rights of their fellow citizens to move freely. Would you be in favor of them being arrested for doing so?

I suspect that if the authorities had arrested BLM protestors for doing so DU would have absolutely exploded with outrage. I seem to recall seeing posts about those protests making the precise point you're making, and the general consensus here was "oh well."

Can't have it both ways.

[treestar]

155. True indeed. And if you said that they were breaking laws

it would have been racist. The arrests would have been racist.

I was reading about the protests in Chicago in 1968 involving Abbie Hoffman, Jerry Rubin, Tom Hayden, etc. They were arrested and prosecuted under a statute other poster said there was clear proof TFG violated. Then when you read what they did, it was clear why they were arrested. And they did not get away with it for being white either. (The usual comment being that "if he were white, he would not be prosecuted.&quot

[Demsrule86]

46. No, you can't do that and shouldn't.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

69. As an owner/operator,

I will say that your post is one of the...........oh, never mind, it's not worth it.

[A HERETIC I AM]

150. ...

[3_Limes]

4. No

That is all.

[Trueblue Texan]

5. Why can't we drop a herd of skunks in their midst?

[Ace Rothstein]

42. They use polar bears in Canada.

[NurseJackie]

62. Surfeit.

[captain queeg]

7. I'd venture a guess that the majority of truckers lean right

Not that they are all wingnuts. But it tends to be an uneducated group. Of course I’m speaking from experience 40 yrs ago when I drove for awhile. It’s a way a hard worker with limited education can make a living. And it’s a rough life in so many ways. Long hours, long times away from home, hard physical labor between long stretches of sitting on your ass. Not a healthy lifestyle. So most people that can find better will not do it too long although there are those that enjoy that lifestyle. I’m sure plenty of them listen to RW radio for hours every day. All that being said they are doing a service that a lot of left leaning folks wouldn’t want to do.

[Jilly_in_VA]

8. I think

it has to do with AM talk radio, which was taken over years ago by the right wing. And that's what they all listen to.

[ForgedCrank]

9. Can we all

hear the things we are saying right now?
I don't want people harassed and destroyed over their personal opinions.
I'm a Democrat, I don't just vote that way.

[Sympthsical]

14. It's weird, right?

Maybe because I'm not really partisan, so I tend to feel like I'm viewing things with an outsider's perspective.

But it's gotten weird with the truckers, right? Like really authoritarian.

I just can't imagine these things being said if it was a protest by our side. We're the ones who have a decent chunk who think a general strike would be a good idea for various things.

It's like, what exactly did you think that would look like? Because it would look kind of like this only worse.

So are we doing a reassessment . . . . or do we just not like that the Right is being more disruptive than we usually manage when we're pissed off about something?

[ForgedCrank]

26. Well, I suppose I just

find it somewhat disturbing that we are attacking people who are organized labor and fighting for something they want and believe in.
No, I don't agree with them in any way on the subject matter, but I stand by my convictions, even when it hurts. I support organized labor for pure reasons, not because they will vote the way I want.
I've even read comments about fetching military against these truckers, stealing their private property and taking away their livelihood, all because we disagree with their premise. This isn't a Democratic position in my apparently unpopular opinion.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

70. This owner/operator fully agrees with your post,

there's even a post about most truckers leaning RW and most are uneducated, which I can say with experience and confidence that this is simply not true here in the US, there is diversity among truck drivers and most are educated, at least the ones I have met, and I've met a lot of company and independent truck drivers.

A lady friend of mine, who is a college graduate with a degree in engineering, now drives my other truck and she loves it, she gets paid to see the US and she finds it more relaxing than her former profession.

[Demsrule86]

49. You get a heart! You are right

[Trueblue Texan]

82. Please understand...and this goes for everyone reading this thread...

NO ONE is advocating taking anyone's rights or punishing them for their opinions. Give us here at DU some credit for understanding the 1st Amendment and the right to political free speech and assembly. BUT these truckers are not merely exercising their rights to free speech, they are breaking the laws of the road and they know it. They should be held accountable under the law, just as they would be held accountable for driving drunk or any other law they break, no matter whether anyone agrees with them or not.

[ForgedCrank]

95. Actually, there have been a lot of

folks here advocating violating the rights of truckers up to and including confiscating their equipment, cancelling their careers, all sorts of nasty things.
I will certainly concede that a lot of these comments are probably made in jest, or simply out of aggravation. I do that myself from time to time and I'm not innocent either. But some of them are quite serious, and those are the ones that are disturbing to me.
I just think it's a really bad look for us overall, especially against an organized labor effort, something I stand behind with all of my convictions and will always defend.
I like almost everyone here, and I think we all agree on the basics. But I don't really comment on every thread I agree with (like 99% of them) or I'd be here all day posting thumbs-up replies. I usually only inject myself where I disagree, and this was just one of those.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

100. +100. nt

[treestar]

112. +1

The laws they are breaking.

Jumping on the chance for virtue signaling. People need to stop and think first. Of course no one here advocates punishment for political opinion. But pretending someone did that gives the person a chance to announce their purity.

[Demsrule86]

116. And when we gather to protest there are laws that could be used to stop us too...

Sorry, Democracy is for all or it won't survive. I am categorically against making Truck Driving rules based on one's political leanings full stop.

[Trueblue Texan]

154. If those were passenger vehicles instead of trucks...

They would still be breaking the law.

[left-of-center2012]

10. Is this a serious question ?

Seriously ?

[Sympthsical]

12. Just want to highlight the weird authoritarianism here

People are arguing with me that there isn't some blatant authoritarian-laced flavor in some of the responses to the truckers.

So . . .

This happened.

[BlueIdaho]

15. God forbid anyone talk about the dystopian

Populism of these truckers here…

[Sympthsical]

16. Oh, it's all getting dystopian all right

I just didn't realize how eager some people would be for that sort of thing.

[BlueIdaho]

24. I'm not eager...

But we are seeing a growing movement of anti-democratic (small “d” democratic) populists doing what they can to destroy law and order and replace it with mob rule. We need to ask why now and who’s funding it?

Are all truckers bad? Hell no! My daughter and her husband are both progressives and they drove for over a decade. There are also plenty of other decent truckers of all stripes condemning this freak show. But we do need to address this issue because the truckers involved in creating this chaos are part of a broader populist agenda whether they know it or not.

Dark money is funding this and other chaotic shit that all boils down to Lord of the Flies level dystopian populism. We need to get in front of this and stomp it out.

[ForgedCrank]

27. How is this any

different that a union completely shutting down operations and stopping services they provide when they organize and strike? It's disruptive, it negatively affects people who aren't even involved, it hurts everyone. That's the entire point of a strike, to apply pressure in numbers and in concert in order to gain leverage for a desired outcome. Do we really want to outlaw this practice? Would all strikers become outlaws, subject to arrest and property seizure? Are we really going to insist that government bring in tanks and militarized police to break them up? Because I see those calls here on this very site. It goes against every conviction we hold dear.
And NO, I don't agree with their demands, I think they are idiots. But that's my opinion, I'm not them. They are doing something we all support in any other circumstance. I support organized labor even if it doesn't serve me in some way. It's a right.

[BlueIdaho]

29. Generally speaking unions don't break the law even when they are striking.

These folks are shutting down freeways, blocking bridges, and impeding access to international airports. When people break the law for what they believe is a worthy cause, they still need to be prepared to accept the consequences.

[ForgedCrank]

30. I don't disagree,

and it appears to me that these truck drivers are most certainly prepared to accept the consequences. But that shouldn't include getting their civil rights stomped on.

[BlueIdaho]

34. What about the rights of others?

Their civil rights do not extend to breaking the law and they don’t extend to violating the rights of others. How about all those who need to travel safely without being blocked by trucks closing down roads, bridges, and international ports? Where do they go for their rights being infringed?

These are not your average union members (in fact I doubt they are union members at all) they are populist anarchists violating national and international laws because they think they are more important than the societies they live in.

[ForgedCrank]

35. We stand divided

on this subject.
I supported it when other marched and did the same, and I'll (reluctantly) support the right of these jackasses to do the same.
I don't change how I see it depending on who it is.

[BlueIdaho]

36. Interesting...

So how do you feel about Jan 6th insurrectionists?

[ForgedCrank]

37. Were they there

fighting for their rights or conditions at work?
That should answer the question sufficiently. The two are not the same, not even close.

[BlueIdaho]

38. Then why are these truckers flying Trump flags?

Why are they covering their trucks with anti-vax posters? The two are the same - exactly.

[ForgedCrank]

39. Ok the, maybe there is

something to talk about here.
There were two kinds of people at the January 6th "event".
Type 1 was there to protest. Type 2 were violent rioters.
Type 1 deserved to stand there and say what they wanted, unmolested, no matter how stupid.
Type 2 belong in jail where they currently are.
And the questions you are asking about the truck drivers? How the hell should I know why they fly Trump banners? Maybe because they are Trump nuts? I didn't say I agreed with a single one of them, I think they are dumbasses. I'm just saying they have a right to do what they are doing, just like anyone else who does the same for something they believe in. I believe in the same rules for everyone, equally, without bias, no matter how much I dislike them.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

71. +100. nt

[Demsrule86]

51. It is a political protest from people I disagree with vehemently. However, I would lay down my

my life for their right to protest. If there are laws broken then those in authority can have them arrested of course. But the right of free assembly is in our constitution. However, if these morons shut down the Super Bowl or cause shortages, I think they will be sorry come the midterms... already, even in Ohio, I see a backlash against those who won't vaccinate.

Our strategy for the midterms will be getting out the votes in the Democratic cities but also working to get Democrats in rural areas and in small towns to the polls as well. We are hoping to win statewide races and to pick off even a couple of gerrymandered districts that if we can get the vote out might go our way.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

72. +100.

If we don't get the vote out come Nov., then nothing else will matter.

[Celerity]

96. agree nt

[Demsrule86]

137. Thanks...you either have a Republic and free speech for all or you end up with one for none.

[BlackSkimmer]

88. I've only seen Canadian flags.

My friend who lives near Ottawa says she never seen so many Canadian flags.

If there’s a tfg flag in the bunch, it’s in a minority.

[Scrivener7]

101. This is a weird argument. These guys are breaking multiple laws. When union workers

strike, except in specialized circumstances, they do not break the law.

I am all for protest. If this was about the right to protest, I would be fighting for their right to do it.

But this is not protest. Or it is more than a protest. In addition to legal protesting, these guys are breaking tons of noise and traffic laws and are making life hell for thousands

I have no problem with them protesting. I also have no problem with them facing the standing legal consequences for the laws they are breaking.

[ForgedCrank]

106. Some keep hearing

words that I've never said.
I never said they shouldn't be held accountable by law or any that they may be breaking, because they should. They even risk losing their jobs, just like one would if he were a union striker. I'm sure a lot of them will when this is over.
My argument is that when we suggest confiscating their private property, taking away their given right to make a living, and insisting that they just shut up is something I simply will not promote or get behind in any way.

If these guys just kept driving in circles around the city, thousands of them, that wouldn't be breaking any laws. The result would be the same, the city would be effectively shut down and unable to function. Would your opinion change then?
And it is indeed a protest, a rather massive one.

[Scrivener7]

107. If you think I heard words you never said, I apologize.

Yes, actually. If they protested in the way you describe, if they did not break standing laws, I would support their right to it.

But that isn't what they are doing.

However, at the base, we may simply be talking past each other and agreeing on substance.

[ripcord]

117. So are you prepared for this standard to be used in all protests?

When protesters block a road or building entrance they should be immediately arrested, when they break noise laws and curfews they should all be rounded up because they are breaking the law, this is what you are saying.

[Scrivener7]

123. Immediately? No. Two weeks in? OK. Rounded up? No. Fined, as the standing

law requires? Yes.

Especially if they, in a sustained and prolonged way, are violating the rights of the people who live in the area, many of whom have been harassed and accosted, and many of whose homes have been made unlivable, and many of whose livelihoods have been endangered.

[Demsrule86]

118. The Trucker have a right to think as they choose. This is America...if they break laws. I

would assume there would be consequences...but you can't use political views you disagree with ( no matter how malignant we think they are) in order to 'weed out right wing truckers' as some have suggested. NO.

[treestar]

113. They are likely breaking some law

Blocking a bridge will most likely be against some law or ordinance. Egads!

[Calista241]

126. I can think of some marches and protests widely supported on DU that blocked interstates and bridges

Some of them very recent from the last few years.

People need to be careful what they wish for. The idea that laws, mass arrests and confiscation of property cannot be used against the next protest cause we support are in for a rude awakening.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

129. +100. nt

[treestar]

130. When was that?

I don't recall one.

The right wingers blocking the freeway in LA over that movie about Jesus was one I recall.

It's a stupid idea. Some ambulance might need that road. No matter which side. If the left did it, it's bad too.

[Scrivener7]

135. No, there were some that blocked roads and bridges last year. But they were very short-lived.

This is going into a third week now. It's a very different circumstance, and there is a question of the rights of the residents of the area who are being harassed and whose homes have been made unlivable for an extended period of time.

[Sympthsical]

152. Remember what happened in Seattle and certain portions of Portland?

Because shutting down areas in those places did get support.

Occupy also closed down many places in its hey day. I remember what a pain in the ass that was for me for awhile, because the main local protest was right where I worked.

Memories are very short.

[Scrivener7]

153. Did they blare ear splitting noise 24 hours for weeks?

Did they prevent people from getting medical care?

Did they storm soup kitchens, terrorize their workers and steal their food?

Did they rip masks from the faces of passersby? Did they harass the people in the neighborhoods who were minding their business?

My memory may be short, because I remember nothing like that. And I too walked by an Occupy site during my daily travels back in the day. I never felt danger or, indeed, anything but encouraged.

[Sympthsical]

156. See, this is the problem with information bubbles

The bad parts of the protests we agree with aren't posted multiple times all over the place. So people think, "There were barely any problems!"

And I'll definitely not be doing that here today, because we both know how it'd go.

Suffice to say, it wasn't always smooth sailing or pleasant for the people who lived around various incidents.

Hey, I disagree with these protests. But the double standards are wide and deep, and the authoritarian impulse at the heart of reactions and responses are disturbing. Watching the fine parsing being done is kind of interesting. "Why is this part bad when they do it, but it's ok for us?" "Well, you see, my rationale all started when Phyllis went to the grocery store . . ."

As someone from the outside (a Democrat, but a nonpartisan), I don't think people realize what it looks like.

Ridiculous. It looks ridiculous. And flatly hypocritical.

[Scrivener7]

157. Sorry. I do see differences and that's not information bubble.

If you feel that's hypocritical, so be it.

[Sympthsical]

151. No one said they weren't

If they are arrested or fined for breaking the law, that will be the cost of civil disobedience. I am not defending their opinions or advocating they be free from the consequences of breaking the law. As near as I can tell, no one here is advocating for that.

However, the retributive fantasies and all kinds of notions of what the Canadian government, military, and even private citizens do in revenge for it are chock full of the authoritarian impulse.

Sorry. I'm going to call it out when I see it. And this stuff has been popping up like daisies.

[Scrivener7]

13. Dude. WTF?

[BlackSkimmer]

22. Ditto.

[sarisataka]

21. If you want a job

First you must show you are a member of the party and in good standing.

Sounds familiar somehow 🤔

[Demsrule86]

119. I never expected to see such a post here. And sadly, you are correct.

[BlackSkimmer]

23. Do you advocate that people should be asked their political views in a job interview?

Because if so, that is fucking scary.

[fescuerescue]

33. No, but it actually is legal to do so.

But no.

This is more about not handing control of our supply chain to wing nuts who hold it hostage.

We need more diversity in such an important role.

[leftstreet]

41. "our supply chain" do you even hear...nevermind n/t

[Demsrule86]

120. The trains must run on time...seriously f'd up.

[fescuerescue]

132. That's our food and medicine.

[Demsrule86]

52. Absolutely not. That is madness.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

73. Then you know nothing about truck drivers,

and this is coming from a truck driver.

[Demsrule86]

121. Thanks for getting us what we need...this entire argument is ridiculous. People have a right

to believe as they choose.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

122. +100. nt

[WhiskeyGrinder]

28. This fuckin place

[leftstreet]

40. +1

[NutmegYankee]

45. +1.

You can’t defeat authoritarianism with authoritarianism.

[Demsrule86]

53. Exactly correct...

[Scrivener7]

104. Lol. Yep.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

105. +100. nt

[Iris]

31. Maybe by bringing back the fairness doctrine?

To counter the nonstop conservative talk radio?

[fescuerescue]

32. Yea I don't know why everyone is jumping to such fascist conclusions

I’m talking about influencing a little a balance and diversity.

I suspect you are onto something about talk radios influence.

[Demsrule86]

56. That is a hard... HELL NO from me. You don't gain diversity by shutting down political discourse.

[Iris]

58. But is that what it is when it's just one side constantly blathering on and on

[Demsrule86]

125. That doesn't mean, we get to take away their right to free speech...we need to develop our own

mechanisms to spread our message...and make the message appealing as well to as many folks as we can. You can't have free speech only for speech you agree with. It won't work.

[Iris]

147. I have said nothing about limiting free speech here. Quite the opposite.

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[fescuerescue]

136. Or shutting down ports.

[Demsrule86]

142. Those who engage in illegal activity can likely will be arrested...that has nothing to do with

the idea of 'getting right-wing truck drivers out of truck driving.' My son will be laid off next week... can't get car parts so this really pissed me off but not enough to toss our freedoms protected in our constitution away.

[Demsrule86]

54. That is not going to happen. The courts will never allow it. So we need to have some media

that supports us.

[Iris]

59. We've had that. It didn't work. Air America.

So maybe my thought is unrealistic after all.

[Demsrule86]

127. And why did it fail? And that still is no reason to allow free speech to be done away with...sorry.

[Iris]

146. How does a Fairness Doctrine do away with free speech?

The airways are not "owned" so how does requiring alternate voices eliminate free speech?

[DickKessler]

43. No and good thing there isn't. Any tool of political repression that might work for you..

...will inevitably be used against you.

[Raine]

44. They're the ones willing to take the jobs and do the work

nothing stopping the liberals from getting into the trucking business if they want to do it. 🤔

[Amishman]

50. Sure, replace the driver with technology

automation and self driving technology is coming and will cost a lot of truckers their jobs

Which will be messy. If they're going nuts over having to get poked by a needle, imagine what they'll do when their industry is gutted

[MarineCombatEngineer]

74. Yeah, thanks for your post.

[alphafemale]

55. That is a horrible and terrifying idea

You want hive brain assimilation and the banishment of people you don't like?

By what authority?

Maybe re-education camps and forced labor?

[Demsrule86]

57. I agree completely.

[Hortensis]

61. Yes. Reaction without thinking, of course.

[Emile]

60. Yes, replace all right-wing am radio stations with left-wing am radio stations.

That would take some rich progressives.

[NurseJackie]

63. No.

[Hortensis]

64. :) They'd have to be very rich because no one would listen to them.

Not enough to make them economically viable anyway. It'd be a good thing, though, if liberals (they're all progressive too) rescued public radio from the rich RWers who've taken much of it over and subverted it.

[Emile]

65. You ever spent 24 hrs a day n an 18 wheeler? I have!

[Hortensis]

67. No, but I hope you liked it. I could I think, all else

making it a good choice. And in my fantasy all the Repub pols unfit for office would also.

[Emile]

68. . .

[MarineCombatEngineer]

75. I have and still do and most modern Semi's are equipped with satellite radio,

alot of them, including both of my trucks, are also equipped with satellite tv, so it's not just AM radio any more, this isn't the 70's, the 80's etc.

[Emile]

80. Yeah, but you're not a slip seating company driver.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

84. No, I'm not, but that doesn't change the fact,

that there are far more alternatives now then back in the day, like live steaming music, memory sticks with hundreds or thousands of songs recorded, etc, even in company trucks, these are available through personal devices that plug into the trucks electrical system.

When was the last time you were driving a semi if you don't mind my asking?

[Emile]

86. I retired 10 years ago. I had to download mp3 pod casts

and burn them on a mp3 CD to listen to left wing radio! It sucks that you have to download and put on a memory stick just to listen to our side.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

91. ...

It sucks that you have to download and put on a memory stick just to listen to our side.

I agree, but it is an alternative to listening to the garbage on AM radio.

Even 10 years ago, it was far different than it is today.

Thanks for the conversation and take care retired Road Warrior.

[ripcord]

128. I spent 35 years hauling explosives and munitions under contract to the government

I became addicted to old radio shows like Jack Benny and The Shadow, there are plenty of alternatives for drivers these days to AM talk radio.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

134. That is exactly my point,

and thank you for doing such a dangerous job, I won't haul any HazMat material, it's not worth the hassle to me, those placards on the side of the trailer announcing the presence of explosives just invites DOT to pull you over and do an up your ass inspection, no thanks, there are plenty of good loads to be had that aren't HazMat.

[ripcord]

144. DOT was never a problem

It paid great and I was able to retire at 57 with over 1.5 million accident free miles. I know it made some people nervous but it was really all I ever did so it was just work to me.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

145. Congratulations on a full and successful career,

I'm retired also from the military, after my wife passed, I decided to sell the house, buy a truck and the rest is history, I love the nomadic lifestyle, but I'm only going to do this for a few more years, then I'll sell the business and fully retire.

[Emile]

141. I did that too. I have every episode of Gunsmoke, The Whistler, etc etc

along with probably two or three hundred audio books! Anything but right-wing am radio. It would still be nice to have our fair share of progressive am radio stations.

[Mr. Sparkle]

66. Make them do a reading and writing test.

That should weed them all out.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

81. JFC!!!!

What makes you think that truck drivers, even R leaning truck drivers are uneducated?

My real life experience is far different than what you're alluding to, most truck drivers I know, company and independent, are educated and are quite versed in reading and writing.

I get sick and tired of the stereotyping of truck drivers.

[Mr. Sparkle]

97. Are you a republican trucker ?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

99. NO,

but I know a hell of a lot of company and independent drivers who are R leaning and each and every one of them that I know have denounced the Canadian drivers and they would refuse to participate in such nonsense, especially owner/operators as it would cost them money and time.

We have a saying in the industry, if the wheels ain't turning, this truck ain't earning, words the vast majority of drivers abide by.

So take your stereotyping of truck drivers and place them where the sun don't shine.

[Mr. Sparkle]

102. Then take it as a joke its meant to be

directed at the morons blockading in Ottawa and their sprung up copycats

[MarineCombatEngineer]

103. It sure didn't come off like a joke,

but I'll take your word for it, but my point stands that there is an unfair stereotyping of truck drivers as uneducated morons who can't get another job because they're too stupid to get an education, well, that hasn't been my real life experience no matter what political view they hold.

[Mr. Sparkle]

108. Up to 90% Of Canadian truckers are vaccinated, its probably very similar here.

My joke was squarely aimed at the right wing douchebags who want to start blockages over the vaccine, a small minority who clearly dont represent the industry.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

110. Fair enough,

but you should have stated that, your joke came off different and I took umbrage at that, unfairly, being a truck driver.

I have to go to work now so have a great day.

[BlackSkimmer]

90. Wow, prejudge much?

Can’t believe I’m reading this here.

[Emile]

94. I take it you're talking about the REPUBLICAN DRIVERS?

[Mr. Sparkle]

109. Yes , see above

[Emile]

111. +1

I figured that when you posted it. I saw you were under attack and thought I would help.

[Mr. Sparkle]

124. Thanks

much appreciated

[Demsrule86]

114. The fact that some on our side would consider such an action makes me fear for our Republic.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

115. And for my 5,000th post,

I agree with you 100%.

[Demsrule86]

131. Congrats on you 5,000th post...I am honored that it was posted to me...a star for thee!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

140. I was holding off until the right post to reply too,

and yours was the perfect one.
Thank you for the heart, it is greatly appreciated.

[BumRushDaShow]

159. Congrats and you got a "Good Day DU" milestones nod from EarlG for that!

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10181624912

[MarineCombatEngineer]

160. Very cool.

[lagomorph777]

79. Get them all to gather in one place and commit crimes.

Then arrest them and confiscate their trucks.

[Trueblue Texan]

83. Which is basically what is happening except they still have their trucks...

but you break enough traffic laws, you lose your right to drive.

[lagomorph777]

89. Exactly!

So, it's time to implement the next step.

[Whiskeytide]

92. This thread well illustrates how authoritarianism ...

… can arise from any point on the political spectrum. It’s about accumulating power and control, and crushing dissent, not ideology. Some of the comments here …? Yikes.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

93. IKR?

It makes me want to do this: while my brain is doing this:

[Cuthbert Allgood]

133. How is this different than RWers saying "How do we get liberals out of teaching?"

I'm baffled by DU sometimes.

[fescuerescue]

138. Well they are wrong

And we are not.

That's the big difference.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

143. No, you and I and most of DU agrees that they are wrong,

but unfortunately, a lot of people think they are right, however stupid that is.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

148. If you are talking about your hot take that conservatives shouldn't be truckers,

sorry, you are wrong. Requiring a political leaning for a job is just silly.

[Mad_Machine76]

149. Can't they

I dunno. Be fired if they're engaging in unlawful forms of protest?

[SonofBen]

158. Sure, you could start by applying for the job.

There is a shortage of drivers, even you might get hired.

Just be sure to act stupid and uneducated in the interview.