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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:23 AM Feb 2022

This is the first question that popped into my head as soon as I heard that Trump had taken

"Classified" and "Top Secret" documents to Mar-A-Lago when he left the White House: "Has he sold any yet?"

I have not heard any mention of this by those reporting about the theft, but is it at all unreasonable to suspect?

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This is the first question that popped into my head as soon as I heard that Trump had taken (Original Post) Atticus Feb 2022 OP
It is most likely what he will do.............. secondwind Feb 2022 #1
That line of thought is only a distraction. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #2
I hope you are correct. I am just not as sure certain about his motivation as you are. We could Atticus Feb 2022 #4
No, I genuinely believe he's been selling them. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #12
Putin isn't paying trump for anything, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #18
Debt forbearance. Putin has a really big stick. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #19
here's a thought... agingdem Feb 2022 #21
Too late, he sold all Top Secrets while still in office. MLAA Feb 2022 #3
He absolutely did, M Leghorn21 Feb 2022 #7
Exactly MLAA Feb 2022 #8
I always believed his foreign policy was to ... Whiskeytide Feb 2022 #5
You raise a valid concern. That begs the question: Did Putin give NCjack Feb 2022 #6
I hope FBI is investigating this. It's not a political matter anymore; it's major felonies. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #13
IT IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE NOW Captain Zero Feb 2022 #24
Yup - we have to assume that some or all of these documents have been compromised. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #25
I was just about to post the same thing. NanceGreggs Feb 2022 #9
I think there are 3 possible motives: Pobeka Feb 2022 #10
Mix of obstruction and sales JT45242 Feb 2022 #11
Yup - probably both things. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #15
I have no doubts that he would trade "information" for rights to build a Trump Tower in N. Korea. kentuck Feb 2022 #14
I'm sure that putin knows what bluestarone Feb 2022 #16
Make no mistake. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #17
Putin isn't paying Trump a dime, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #20
Bingo - Donnie's ego trumps everything Retrograde Feb 2022 #26
The term is "payment in kind" jmowreader Feb 2022 #22
He Took The Documents So That He Could Turn Mar-A-Lago Into The Tr**p Presidential Library....nt global1 Feb 2022 #23

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
1. It is most likely what he will do..............
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:25 AM
Feb 2022


His pals in North Korea and Russian would be very grateful.....

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
2. That line of thought is only a distraction.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:28 AM
Feb 2022

Trump stole and destroyed documents to cover up his crimes, to obstruct justice.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. I hope you are correct. I am just not as sure certain about his motivation as you are. We could
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:33 AM
Feb 2022

both be right.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. No, I genuinely believe he's been selling them.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:56 AM
Feb 2022

He started giving away secrets to the Russians within days of occupying the Oval Orifice.

agingdem

(7,845 posts)
21. here's a thought...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:57 PM
Feb 2022

Trump has zero cognitive awareness...in his twisted mind he's a brilliant businessman as well as a brilliant statesman...and anyone who cannot see his wonderfulness is stupid, lazy, weak blah blah blah....when he stiffs lawyers, contractors, scams the IRS/ banks, cons his followers into pouring money into his private coffers, it only feeds into his self-serving ego and affirms "I can stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and I wouldn't lose voters "...I think the top secret documents, Kim Jong-Un love letters, Sharpie weather map, and every piece of paper he didn't shred, flush, or eat is going on display in his President Donald J. Trump Library..and because he's a self serving narcissistic conman, he'll charge his idiotic enablers/worshippers big bucks for the privilege of scanning highly classified documents...

Leghorn21

(13,524 posts)
7. He absolutely did, M
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:40 AM
Feb 2022

Not a "shred" of doubt he was selling our secrets, starting on Jan 20, 2017
Jared and who tf knows who else

Maybe it's just a stone miracle that America is still somewhat of a country at this point, all things considered

Whiskeytide

(4,461 posts)
5. I always believed his foreign policy was to ...
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:33 AM
Feb 2022

… simply endear himself to the authoritarian interests he admired and/or was indebted to. What would stop him from telling them anything they wanted to know?

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
6. You raise a valid concern. That begs the question: Did Putin give
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:35 AM
Feb 2022

him a list of secret documents to be delivered to Russia?

I hope the House forms another committee to investigate the details of the secret documents removed (stolen?) from the White House. In TFG's term, what secret documents did he ever possess and which ones are now missing? I (as hopefully our counter-espinage agencies do) suspect that as part of his arrangement with Putin, TFG has given to them most of what he could get his hands on.

Captain Zero

(6,802 posts)
24. IT IS A NATIONAL SECURITY ISSUE NOW
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:24 PM
Feb 2022

If one document he took ends up overseas, then we can assume others did too.

NanceGreggs

(27,813 posts)
9. I was just about to post the same thing.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:47 AM
Feb 2022

A failed "pResident" steals classified documents - bad enough on its own.

Add the fact that said "pResident" is drowning in debt due to mounting legal fees, business losses, and loan payments on his properties coming due - hmmmm.



Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
10. I think there are 3 possible motives:
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:49 AM
Feb 2022

1) Most likely -- he thought he was going to be reinstalled as POTUS sometime in Feb and took the documents for "safe keeping" so prying eyes wouldn't discover them in the interim.
2) Sell them
3) He's such a narcissist -- he wanted momentos of the shit he got away with for four years.

JT45242

(2,262 posts)
11. Mix of obstruction and sales
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:54 AM
Feb 2022

Those defaulting loans won't pay themselves -- so Putin's puppet bank (Deutchbank) will liekly take classified documents in lieu of payments or receive payments form others for the docs.

I would guess a lot of what was stolen was done to cover up potential criminality of himself and Ivanka (let the others twist in the wind).

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
14. I have no doubts that he would trade "information" for rights to build a Trump Tower in N. Korea.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 11:57 AM
Feb 2022

Top Secret or Otherwise.

bluestarone

(16,906 posts)
16. I'm sure that putin knows what
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:03 PM
Feb 2022

TFG knew! Everything and i mean EVERYTHING! (The scary part is the dumb SOB probably could have pardoned everything he did) Hell if nothing else, it could have tied up our court system FOREVER! They EVER get control again LOOK OUT!

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
17. Make no mistake.
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:07 PM
Feb 2022

With Trump, it is always about money. He will sell them (or has already sold them) to the highest bidder.

Much of what he does makes me believe that he is trying to keep Putin happy - whether by being in debt financially to him, or by understanding that Putin kills those who cross him or are no longer valuable to him.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
20. Putin isn't paying Trump a dime,
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

but he could allow a Trump tower in Moscow for Top Secret information. I hope we got all of our spies out of Russia before Trump took over.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
26. Bingo - Donnie's ego trumps everything
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 02:33 PM
Feb 2022

He's been wanting a building in Moscow for quite a few years: I'm sure Putin was sweetening the deal by promising to pick up the building costs and just let him slap his name on it. Just send a few of those boring documents Vlad's way.

I'm just as worried about what the Saudis have been dangling in front of him: we know Jared's debts on at least one property were suddenly paid off.

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
22. The term is "payment in kind"
Fri Feb 11, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

“Tovarich, we will deduct $2000 from your debt for every Confidential document, $5000 for every Secret document, $10,000 for every Top Secret document and an additional $5000 for every code word-protected document. We will deduct $50,000 for every document that has NOFORN printed on it, regardless of classification.”

He was probably passing them over during his “golf” trips.

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