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Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:49 AM

Jan. 6th Commission: "Once you see the data, you can't unsee it."




Denver Riggleman (R-Va) is my former congressman and is in charge of the data for the Jan 6 commission. He’s former NSA. He’s got the call logs and data. My assumption is that what he sees is damning for anyone who was involved.

He was a lousy congressman, dumped from office by a more conservative nutjob who is being primaried by an even more conservative nutjob. He seems to have found his conscience and his backbone. And a sense of humor. From another tweet:

“I would like to be questioned on National TV by all Congressional Republicans who believe January 6th was a False Flag.

“Just me against every single one on the dais.

“I will even wear a JFK Jr for Vice President shirt so everyone is comfortable.”

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Reply Jan. 6th Commission: "Once you see the data, you can't unsee it." (Original post)
phylny Feb 2022 OP
Roy Rolling Feb 2022 #1
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #4
DeeDeeNY Feb 2022 #2
Chicago1980 Feb 2022 #8
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #3
DeeDeeNY Feb 2022 #14
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #5
phylny Feb 2022 #13
mountain grammy Feb 2022 #19
Laura PourMeADrink Feb 2022 #21
mountain grammy Feb 2022 #23
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #6
hydrolastic Feb 2022 #20
Poiuyt Feb 2022 #22
Paladin Feb 2022 #7
gab13by13 Feb 2022 #9
Aviation Pro Feb 2022 #10
Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #11
sop Feb 2022 #15
Chainfire Feb 2022 #12
tanyev Feb 2022 #16
hydrolastic Feb 2022 #17
hydrolastic Feb 2022 #18
Grasswire2 Feb 2022 #24

Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:12 AM

1. Presentation

It’s all about presentation. Republicans understand that and constantly beat Democrats over the head with it. It’s why they sell so many shit sandwiches over at Fox News—presentation.

Content is secondary, genuine numbers aren’t needed—they sometimes just make it up.

So when sharing the whole story about January 6–and the whole Trump-Putin regime—use the finest plates and garnish them with important details on every inch.

Still, there’s limits. If prosecutors don’t start soon too many people won’t believe it because they’ve had too much propaganda from defendants while waiting. I think this statement is a tease for what may be coming soon.

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Response to Roy Rolling (Reply #1)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:46 AM

4. You are absolutely right. But need to get that out

of my head so not too disappointed. But to be truthful not sure what a simple logical approach would be? What are you thinking?

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:17 AM

2. The Jan. 6 hearings need to be televised.

The sooner the better.

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Response to DeeDeeNY (Reply #2)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:05 AM

8. The plan is for them to be televised.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:05 AM

3. I want those comments,

"once you see the data, you can't unsee it," to come from Merrick Garland, not from Denver Riggleman.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:39 AM

14. + 1

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:49 AM

5. You didn't like him? We just happened to be traveling and

stayed in SW VA. The owners of the B&B raved about him. Said people loved him and that he was an honest, open-minded straight shooter. That trump didn't like that so put up an opponent to get rid of him.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #5)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:37 AM

13. I didn't like him.

He voted with Trump and was primaried because he performed a same-sex marriage. He never met with his constituents. He voted “no” on impeachment.

Here’s his voting record: http://politicsthatwork.com/voting-record/Denver-Riggleman-412831

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Response to phylny (Reply #13)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:51 AM

19. Yep typical republican

but just not quite fascist enough for the trumptrain. Like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #19)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:07 PM

21. Lol. My standards are that low now - " not quite fascist enough" nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #21)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:38 PM

23. Yep, that's where the bar is..as low as it can get.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:53 AM

6. The 1/6 televised hearings

will clearly show all of the crimes that DOJ could have prosecuted.

Then msnbc justice correspondent, Pete Williams, will go on TV and say that none of this would be admissible in court because our president Trump has claimed executive privilege and our Federalist Society selected SC will agree.

Today is day 60 since the Mark Meadows criminal referral and he is claiming executive privilege. I rest my case.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:52 AM

20. I Hope, Hope, Hope, your not correct

But everything you pointed out could become true. Especially the Mark Meadows part.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #6)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 12:11 PM

22. Anyone know when the televised hearings are going to happen?

I thought they would have started already.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:58 AM

7. "When it's time" MY ASS.

Enough of this bullshit teasing. It's getting seriously into PAST TIME for this country and what's left of its democracy.

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Response to Paladin (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:06 AM

9. It isn't the fault of the select committee,

it is doing a fantastic job uncovering evidence that may never be used.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:18 AM

10. Want to know what happened on J6?

Subpoena the entirety of Bloated Tick’s Secret Service detail.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:21 AM

11. The January 6 hearings could be broadcast in full on Fox, and Trumpers would not believe them.

They have moved so far beyond reality that they’re living in a fake world of Trump’s and their creation. No one who denies the results of dozens of court cases, multiple recounts of votes—including by the fraudulent Cyber Ninjas who found more votes for Biden—and that January 6 was an illegal insurrection instead of “patriots” acting to save their country will believe a word coming from the J6 Committee. But I would hope that enough Independents and moderate Republicans (if there is such a thing left) would watch and come to understand the seriousness of Trump’s crimes and those of the people who helped him try to overturn not just the 2020 election but our whole system of democracy. I think they came closer to succeeding than the average person realizes.

There’s a lot to uncover, but the longer this investigation goes on, the more people will simply tune it out and go on with life. I believe timing is urgent here. If hearings are not held until Fall, the DOJ will do nothing because it’s too close to the election and Republicans are likely to take control of the House, at which point they will shut the investigations down and start their own endless hearings immediately on the J6 members, as well as begin hearings to impeach Biden and Harris—and those hearings will be televised from the beginning because they will not be to gather evidence—they will be for planting lies in the minds of voters to ready them for 2024.

My opinion here is definitely tainted by the Mueller experience, with anticipation of crimes proven but a real flop in terms of holding TFG accountable for anything. The investigation took so long that many people just lost interest and then of course Barr kept most of it secret—and no one but some Democrats cared. It made no difference to the fact that 74 million people voted to keep Trump in office. My fear is that the J6 Committee will take so long that too few will pay attention when they do finally present their findings.



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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:46 AM

15. "Justice delayed is justice denied."

I agree. By the time voters are made fully aware of Trump's crimes, mid-term campaigns will be in full swing and the DOJ will do nothing. Most Americans will view the whole public spectacle as nothing more than a partisan political exercise.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:28 AM

12. I keep hearing about hearings but I think it is just my Tinnitus.

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Response to phylny (Original post)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:31 AM

16. Quite a few Republican congresscritters keep their consciences and backbones safely locked up

until they are out of office.

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Response to tanyev (Reply #16)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:45 AM

18. What's actually going to take democracy down is this system of keeping the truth secret

This system of having secret hearings before actual hearings is bull! A good reporter should be able to find out what happened. Let the press take them down.

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Response to hydrolastic (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 13, 2022, 03:16 PM

24. too many secrets that affect the American ppl are simply buried forever.

We can't even get the whole truth about the JFK assassination.

I find it outrageous.

"Look forward, not back" as a strategy eventually comes calling for payment.

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