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Durham investigation - can anyone inform (Original Post) cilla4progress Feb 2022 OP
I'd like to know too. What i'm hearing is bad, if true. Groundhawg Feb 2022 #1
Did Durham prove intent? fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #2
I just checked on google there is nothing new, just the supposed bombshell from last year. Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #3
I know, right? cilla4progress Feb 2022 #4
Yeah, the Pig issued that statement and it has set off the cultists, there are over on the Hill... Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #5
Save him? From what? Mad_Machine76 Feb 2022 #11
Going to prove he is never to blame for anything. Hilary was spying on him and made up the "Rusher" Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #19
It's pretty complicated but Durham made a court filing Friday Tomconroy Feb 2022 #6
Thanks, buddy! cilla4progress Feb 2022 #9
Can you tell me more about the statute of limitations? NutmegYankee Feb 2022 #10
In this case, as in most federal cases I believe, it is five years Tomconroy Feb 2022 #12
Ah. NutmegYankee Feb 2022 #13
Amazingly, the incident that might have been alleged as a crime, lying to the FBI, Tomconroy Feb 2022 #15
BREAKING NEWS! William769 Feb 2022 #7
Latest nothing-burger in John Durham's failed revenge plot-Prepare to be *dramatically* underwhelmed LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #8
Wow.. that's a lot of Work.. TY! Cha Feb 2022 #14
Unfortunately and as usual ForgedCrank Feb 2022 #16
And our taxpayers Corgigal Feb 2022 #17
there's only ONE part of the filing that has piqued my curiosity. WarGamer Feb 2022 #18
Fox segment throws cold water on MAGA's new plan to jail Hillary Clinton LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #20
Why Trump is once again claiming that he was spied upon in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #21

cilla4progress

(24,731 posts)
4. I know, right?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 03:44 PM
Feb 2022

Maybe something new about server in loser's towers connected to Russia? Also something about HRC surveilling his campaign in '16 and she should be killed for it.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. Yeah, the Pig issued that statement and it has set off the cultists, there are over on the Hill...
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 03:54 PM
Feb 2022

rabidly commenting about how Durham is going to save the Pig.

Mad_Machine76

(24,412 posts)
11. Save him? From what?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:42 PM
Feb 2022

They spend half their time claiming that Russiagate was just a Deep State hoax and deny its existence and, regrettably, Mueller didn't pursue charges against him and Democrats didn't even try impeaching him over it. Seems like the matter should be closed for him. But of course, for narcissists, nothing but complete absolution and an acknowledgement that their enemies were somehow wrong to oppose them is enough for them.

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
19. Going to prove he is never to blame for anything. Hilary was spying on him and made up the "Rusher"
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:36 PM
Feb 2022

collusion, something he has been saying for years. Proves him right and so he is right about election. The libs just out to get him again. See?

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
6. It's pretty complicated but Durham made a court filing Friday
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:04 PM
Feb 2022

about a possible conflict of interest in the one criminal case he has brought in the two and a half years of his investigation alleging something about computer hacking of Trump's communications with Russia in 2016. Durham let the statute of limitations pass without bringing any sort of criminal case about this of course. So Trump is making noise. It's just junk. The allegation is irrelevant to the pending criminal case.
Marcy Wheeler at Emptywheel has much more info.

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
12. In this case, as in most federal cases I believe, it is five years
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:43 PM
Feb 2022

from the date of the alleged crime.

NutmegYankee

(16,199 posts)
13. Ah.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 10:46 PM
Feb 2022

I realize the twitter explosion is just the Qult reacting to their leader's tantrum, but I keep seeing "indictment" flying about. Then again, half these people think there is going to be "military tribunals" as well. In a drawer of sharp knives, they are a rubber mallet...

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
15. Amazingly, the incident that might have been alleged as a crime, lying to the FBI,
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:09 PM
Feb 2022

occurred 5 years and two days before Durham's filing.
Durham was from CT and had a decent reputation. He's gone the way of all special prosecutors: He's gone nuts trying to find a crime.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
8. Latest nothing-burger in John Durham's failed revenge plot-Prepare to be *dramatically* underwhelmed
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 05:27 PM
Feb 2022

I read the Durham filing last night and was amused. There is nothing in this filing that proves anything.

I was amused to find this thread on Durham's latest nothingburger


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ForgedCrank

(1,781 posts)
16. Unfortunately and as usual
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:13 PM
Feb 2022

we have accusations, but we haven't seen any actual evidence (with our own eyes).
And like always, I call BS until I see it for myself. Media cannot be trusted anymore, most especially the right-wing brand.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
18. there's only ONE part of the filing that has piqued my curiosity.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:19 PM
Feb 2022

Durham alleges that a Gov't contractor (possibly Crowdstrike) with access to the Executive Office of the President took data from the EOP server at the behest of an outside entity.

Problem is... Durham is biased, IMHO. Take his accusations with a grain of salt. I'll wait to see if Garland and the DoJ at large will back this clown up.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
20. Fox segment throws cold water on MAGA's new plan to jail Hillary Clinton
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 11:44 PM
Feb 2022

When Fox is down on this report, you know that it is bogus




Speaking about the filing, Washington Examiner reporter Byron York revealed there wasn't much "there" there.

'I don't read a lot into this," said York. "But I would say as far as Durham is concerned and a lot of Republicans and especially the strongest Trump supporters, a lot of them have been disappointed in Durham. Frankly, because I think they have expectations that are too high. Some Trump supporters are really not going to be happy unless they saw James Comey or Hillary Clinton lead out of a door in handcuffs."

This, he explained, is never going to happen. Nor will Durham find something suddenly that results in President Joe Biden being kicked out of office and Trump reinstated.

Durham was appointed by Trump to investigate former Special Counsel Robert Mueller on Oct. 19, 2020, which is 482 days ago. Robert Mueller's investigation lasted 674 days and resulted in 34 indictments of individuals and three companies. Thus far, Durham has indicted a lawyer who once worked for Democrats. In subsequent filings, including this most recent one, Durham hasn't made any indictments nor has a grand jury.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,231 posts)
21. Why Trump is once again claiming that he was spied upon in 2016
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:39 AM
Feb 2022

This article sort of explains why the MAGA nut cases are so excited. These MAGA nut cases are really stupid and their excitement amuses me




You’ll recall that Trump’s core complaint as president was that the investigation into Russian interference and possible overlap with his campaign was unfounded. It wasn’t, involving probes into a number of individuals with obvious links to Russian actors. But Trump and his allies crafted a countervailing narrative centered on malfeasance by government officials — again, a claim downstream from Trump’s initial response to reports about the probe in which he asserted that government officials might be out to get him......

The theory behind the Alfa Bank rumor is complicated. Sussman’s law firm, Perkins Coie, had been retained by Clinton’s campaign (leading it, separately, to engage the investigative firm Fusion GPS that later generated the infamous dossier of reports alleging a more robust connection between Russia and Trump’s team). An unidentified individual first noticed traffic between the Trump server and the Russian bank and brought it to an executive at a technology firm who had retained Perkins Coie and was working with Sussman. (Wheeler has an excellent timeline of all of this.) That triggered an effort to examine the scope of those connections, one that at least some of those involved in the research apparently understood to be an effort to create a jumping-off point for further research that could bolster a Trump-Russia narrative. (The tech executive, I’ll note, wasn’t sold on the Alfa-Trump link even back in August 2016.) Durham’s filing ties the campaign to Sussman and Sussman to the executive, but it’s not explicitly argued that the probe flowed down from Clinton’s team — or up to it.......

t’s important here to know why those records might have been collected. An expert on the technology with whom I spoke on Monday explained that Internet service providers often allow third parties to collect domain name lookups because the information is useful for tracking bad actors on the Internet. If, for example, there are suddenly a number of lookups to we11sfargo.com, with ones replacing the Ls in the domain name, that might suggest some effort to redirect traffic away from the bank to some spoof site. Or organizations might similarly have a passive DNS collection process in place so that they might know if there’s a sudden spike in lookups for unusual servers in, say, Russia — an early indication that maybe someone is trying to run a scam targeting employees.....

It’s useful to note that Durham’s claim about data being “exploited” emerged early. Both Wheeler and Graham elevated questions about the ethics of digging through collected DNS records to investigate something that was probably outside of any agreement governing what the data was being collected for. But that doesn’t mean 1) that any laws were violated or 2) that this constitutes “hacking.” If I give you a key to my house and you use it to come in and read my diary, I will certainly be angry with you, but it’s not like you committed burglary.

After reading this article, it become even clearer that there were no laws breached and that Durham is wasting everyone's time
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