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Pluvious

(4,308 posts)
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:24 PM Feb 2022

On the notion that The Ghouliani will be flipping...

Given the latest revelation the Jan 6th Committee is "in discussions for Rudy be appearing..."

@TristanSnell

Trump didn’t pay Rudy.

Trump won’t return Rudy’s calls — even after Rudy’s law license was suspended because of Trump.

Trump is now supporting Rudy’s son’s opponent in the GOP race for governor of New York.

So yeah, I think there’s a solid chance Rudy will now flip on Trump.



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On the notion that The Ghouliani will be flipping... (Original Post) Pluvious Feb 2022 OP
I hope so!! n/t KarenS Feb 2022 #1
If he flips it will be because they will give him immunity JohnSJ Feb 2022 #2
Some immunity prob not total. He still faces Dominion lawsuit & needs to be out to make money Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #8
OMG, Dominion is going to take every cent from this Dracula's servant, Renfield, like creeper. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #21
With his record of crazy, they can't rely on his testomony. soldierant Feb 2022 #26
That's a good point I thought of that. Lying sack of shit not a good witness Walleye Feb 2022 #28
Remember he said he had an insurance policy. Give him immunity what the hell Walleye Feb 2022 #3
Yup, America needs to bring The Big Traitor down. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #18
Does he have anything they don't already know? We have a lot of cooperating witnesses. L. Coyote Feb 2022 #20
No immunity... lame54 Feb 2022 #33
Not so sure anyhow...... MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #4
You do realize Rudy is already under criminal investigation by the DOJ? Fiendish Thingy Feb 2022 #32
I still don't think it matters....... MyOwnPeace Feb 2022 #34
He's probably going to sound like an idiot so they will not be able to use his testimony in court. marie999 Feb 2022 #5
Exactly what I was thinking, not a reliable witness unless he provides tapes! MLAA Feb 2022 #9
Rudy is most likely incapable of any sort of reasonable thinking or even understandable marked50 Feb 2022 #6
Surely Fitzmas is coming this time! Hav Feb 2022 #7
Will Rudy be sober? keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #10
at eight o'clock in the morning? Good question rurallib Feb 2022 #14
And a tawdry tale it will be! pandr32 Feb 2022 #11
I hope they turn the heat on high so his hair will melt BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #12
Its possible that Rudy thinks he has such a high degree of intelligence 70sEraVet Feb 2022 #13
He's gone nuts but let's remember, he was a lawyer TlalocW Feb 2022 #15
Don't Know About That! ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #22
Don the Con cares about nothing and no one and iluvtennis Feb 2022 #16
Agree. Trump treats his friends like shit, which is good for us. Sing, Rudy, sing. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #17
It will be interesting to hear what he has to say, but I'm not expecting too much from him. patphil Feb 2022 #19
Rudy is smart enough to have kept some dirt on Trump Jarqui Feb 2022 #23
I think the best bet is that Rudy thinks he can outsmart the committee's lawyers. TomSlick Feb 2022 #24
He will only flip IF Schmice3 Feb 2022 #25
If he flips, hope he has more to reveal than everyone else who "flipped." Hoyt Feb 2022 #27
Flipping on who? Himself? SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #29
The tweet is wrong as most are. former9thward Feb 2022 #30
and before the night is out orleans Feb 2022 #31

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,983 posts)
8. Some immunity prob not total. He still faces Dominion lawsuit & needs to be out to make money
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:24 PM
Feb 2022

It all depends on how much he is going to spill. If he has tapes and receipts and enough stuff to nail tRump, then he might get a lot.

soldierant

(6,836 posts)
26. With his record of crazy, they can't rely on his testomony.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:51 PM
Feb 2022

That's a good reason not to even offer him even a little immunity.

But I'm not working thcase, so who knows what they'll do.

L. Coyote

(51,129 posts)
20. Does he have anything they don't already know? We have a lot of cooperating witnesses.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:34 PM
Feb 2022
And we have Rudy's devices!! Just indict his arse first, then maybe let him out of jail to die if he delivers a lot.


MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
4. Not so sure anyhow......
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 06:49 PM
Feb 2022

Here's another 'possibility:'

Thee whole snake regime has worked "drag-it-out-forever" into a fine art that they have used and will continue to use through another administration or two!

What's Rudy - 78 in May?

Here's his 'time-line:'

Do nothing - no deal to testify - at least 1 to 2 months (April, 2022)
Committee issues subpoena - (May - June, 2022)
Do nothing - (continued from February!!!!)
Committee refers to DOJ - (August/September, 2022)
DOJ responds --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

NEW YORK TIMES HEADLINE: APRIL 1, 2025

"AMERICA'S MAYOR DIES WHILE IN DENTIST CHAIR"

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
32. You do realize Rudy is already under criminal investigation by the DOJ?
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:23 PM
Feb 2022

They don’t have to wait for the committee…I think Rudy is hoping to get immunity from the committee, or scare Trump into footing his legal bills…

MyOwnPeace

(16,923 posts)
34. I still don't think it matters.......
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:32 PM
Feb 2022

the same 'playbook' is used........

Draw them out until:

1. A 'TRUMP' judge rules for him
2. There's a change in either the White House/Congress/DOJ and charges are dropped
3. Back to the dentist's chair..........(see above post)


marked50

(1,366 posts)
6. Rudy is most likely incapable of any sort of reasonable thinking or even understandable
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:04 PM
Feb 2022

reactions to anything. It is not beyond possibility that he will drool extensively before the committee before he lunges forward over the table to try and strangel the first person he sees.

Hav

(5,969 posts)
7. Surely Fitzmas is coming this time!
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:20 PM
Feb 2022

I have no clue why anyone would seriously believe he'd flip on Trump and also implicate himself in the process.

pandr32

(11,572 posts)
11. And a tawdry tale it will be!
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:40 PM
Feb 2022

I would love to be listening to his interviews! How low did he and TFG go anyway? Was anything on the level whatsoever? Did they offer to sell our country out? Gawd.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
12. I hope they turn the heat on high so his hair will melt
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:42 PM
Feb 2022

in front of the committee. That will rattle him.

70sEraVet

(3,479 posts)
13. Its possible that Rudy thinks he has such a high degree of intelligence
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 07:42 PM
Feb 2022

that he will be able to outwit the Committee. He amazes himself!

TlalocW

(15,378 posts)
15. He's gone nuts but let's remember, he was a lawyer
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:04 PM
Feb 2022

And he put away a lot of powerful criminals so he can read the direction something is going, and through the windmills in his mind, he must realize that 1. Trump's not going to pay him what Trump owes him and thus 2. he doesn't have the money to mount any kind of defense. So he's going to try to ask for some sort of immunity to throw Trump under the bus, otherwise, Number 2 might see him the gray-bar hotel.

At least, that's my hope.

TlalocW

ProfessorGAC

(64,951 posts)
22. Don't Know About That!
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

RG made his bones (see what I did there) getting a massive set of convictions in the "Commission Trial".
But, the massive infiltration of the mob by Joe Pistons (aka Donnie Brasco) gave inside information, plus RICO, that made that case a slam dunk.
They could have only screwed it up, which they did not.
I don't think his reputation as a mob crusher is warranted because Pistone's information basically made the case for the prosecution.

patphil

(6,158 posts)
19. It will be interesting to hear what he has to say, but I'm not expecting too much from him.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:32 PM
Feb 2022

He's very deep into the fake electors thing, and may feel he has no choice. We'll see to what extent he invokes the 5th.
Some degree of immunity might help, but Rudy is an unpredictable, slippery, somewhat demented person.
Even given all that, it's could very well be chips, dip, and beer time if he comes before the January 6th committee in public session.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
23. Rudy is smart enough to have kept some dirt on Trump
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:41 PM
Feb 2022

He talked about it.
Trump must think it is not that damaging.
Maybe Rudy wasn't smart enough to get 'good' dirt.

The problem with Rudy is that he is as dishonest as Trump.
How do you believe anything he tells you?

It can't hurt to talk with him to see what he has to offer.
But I'm not sure how useful it will be.
No way Rudy is a credible witness you can rely on.
OTH, Rudy might be pretty desperate.

One appealing thing about it is you know it would make Trump crazy uncomfortable.
Rudy was in a position to know a heck of a lot of what was going on.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
24. I think the best bet is that Rudy thinks he can outsmart the committee's lawyers.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 08:46 PM
Feb 2022

Rudy fancies himself very bright. I personally love cross-examining people who think themselves very bright.

former9thward

(31,961 posts)
30. The tweet is wrong as most are.
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:10 PM
Feb 2022

"Trump won't return Rudy's calls" The media is reporting Rudy and Trump are watching the Super Bowl together in Florida.

orleans

(34,043 posts)
31. and before the night is out
Sun Feb 13, 2022, 09:22 PM
Feb 2022

he'll be tied up and hidden away in the basement
or suffer an unexpected heart attack

or not

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