About 3 mins ago just saw a tweet (which I now can't find) that a high ranking Ukrainian told BBC...

[electric_blue68]

that Ukraine might forego asking to join NATO in order
to avoid war.

Sorry still can't find it

[Cha]

1. Wow.. poor things!

[Sneederbunk]

2. NATO is damned lucky Ukraine is not in NATO now.

[Maraya1969]

4. I think Russia is lucky Ukraine is not in NATO now.

[Klaralven]

3. Ukraine's ambassador in London, Vadym Prystaiko

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60370541

[electric_blue68]

8. 👍

[Xolodno]

5. Not like they could do so now anyway.

They are in a middle of a civil war (granted with the backing of Moscow) that makes them ineligible anyway.

Then you have Germany, France and a few others who are more than likely to say "Hell NO!" on admittance. Then you have the WTF factor, Slovenia was admitted and it's a nation that is likely to leave given a significant portion of the populace does not want to be in NATO.

Take our gains and walk away. Gambling for more is just going to cost you in the end.

[ThoughtCriminal]

6. Okay, we agree not to deploy Jupiter missiles in Ukraine

and call it even.

[Poiuyt]

7. Maybe we could pull our obsolete missiles out of Turkey

Hey, it worked to end the Cuban Missile Crisis!