Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:58 AM Feb 2022

OPINION: The NY Times owes Hillary Clinton an apology

I cancelled my subscription to the NYT due to the unfair coverage of Hillary Clinton. The NYT and Haberman helped elect TFG




“The 2-year frenzy over the emails was a political Rorschach test where everyone saw something different in what was ultimately nothing. Call it sexism, Republican depravity, ratings-hungry media, it’s time we acknowledge it was bullshit, and write that into the history books.” – Hillary Clinton

Back in 2016, their reporter Maggie Haberman amplified the Hillary Clinton conspiracy which Trump campaigned on. I and many other conservatives who supported Trump (including others like me who learned this was a mistake) did our best to get this to the masses to say ‘Hillary Clinton was an irresponsible leader and unfit to be President.’ At the time I was spreading this lie, I didn’t know it was a lie, and the fact that the Times writer amplified it, even more, made us believe we were right and this possibly persuaded undecided electoral voters to pick Trump. Little did I know that I would eventually learn that Hillary Clinton was exonerated of any wrongdoing, and I apologized for my part in spreading this lie.,,,,,

Maggy Haberman and the not-so-liberal media the NY Times owe Hillary Clinton a public apology.

We all owe a thank you to Nick Merill for informing all of us about a disservice to the public emanating from the Old Gray Lady when it suddenly began to betray its motto of publishing “all the news that’s fit to print.”


41 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
OPINION: The NY Times owes Hillary Clinton an apology (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 OP
Andrea Mitchell owes Hillary Clinton an apology too. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #1
Yes.. but both of them Cha Feb 2022 #5
Both of them owe America an apology. ESPECIALLY MAGA Haberman. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #35
I agree.. Not just Hillary. Cha Feb 2022 #36
She sure does! calimary Feb 2022 #11
Well, she is Mrs.Greenspan. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #12
Well, her ego evidently does need the relevancy. calimary Feb 2022 #17
Same here, she will always be known as Andrea Emails. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #15
There are many, many people who owe Hillary an apology blue-wave Feb 2022 #16
+1 betsuni Feb 2022 #20
Do not forget Chris Hayes and Chuck Todd LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #30
They owe the Clintons an apology for inventing and peddling the Whitewater scandal dalton99a Feb 2022 #2
YES Cha Feb 2022 #6
An apology is the least of this for her Deuxcents Feb 2022 #3
NYT Sure As Hell Does Owe Cha Feb 2022 #4
Lots and lots of apologies peggysue2 Feb 2022 #7
Kicking with disgust at the NYT Hekate Feb 2022 #8
For those jumping to conclusions, Merrill admits he's just guessing. ificandream Feb 2022 #9
I mean, if it was asked for and it was given... W_HAMILTON Feb 2022 #19
He says "apparently" ... which means he doesn't really know ... ificandream Feb 2022 #28
I took the "apparently" to mean his accusation of the editors... W_HAMILTON Feb 2022 #31
But where did the comment come from? ificandream Feb 2022 #33
The idiots who voted for putins boy owes HRC & us a YUGE apology. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #10
There will never be enough weasel words to atone for the damage to our nation, and Planet Earth. NBachers Feb 2022 #13
They owe America an apology as well! Nt imaginary girl Feb 2022 #14
Twitter reply: Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author brush Feb 2022 #21
What do you mean? betsuni Feb 2022 #23
Am I reading this wrong? It seems the poster is saying this. brush Feb 2022 #24
That's from the occupydemocrats article. betsuni Feb 2022 #25
Thank you. I'll delete. brush Feb 2022 #26
The diabolically corrupt cartoon villain many helped create, where is she now? betsuni Feb 2022 #22
No apologies Meowmee Feb 2022 #27
As long as you won't be complaining about the paywall the next time they break a big story. brooklynite Feb 2022 #29
The New York Times should APOLOGIZE NOW for their unfair coverage of her emails. LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #32
You guys seem to have forgotten that if it wasn't for Comey, she likely would have won. ificandream Feb 2022 #34
There was no one final screw. It took many attacks from many Hortensis Feb 2022 #38
That's the crazy thing -- the closer the election outcome, the more blame there is to go around Silent3 Feb 2022 #39
If you feel like the MSM is supported by the GOP then .... ificandream Feb 2022 #40
I don't feel "the MSM are supported by the GOP," Ifican. Hortensis Feb 2022 #41
It feels to me like HRC has significant grounds for lawsuits. msfiddlestix Feb 2022 #37

calimary

(81,179 posts)
11. She sure does!
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:07 AM
Feb 2022

Around our house, we STILL call her Andrea "Oh but her emails" Mitchell.

I still think Andrea Mitchell secretly harbors big resentment toward Hillary. Hillary achieved more than ANY other American woman, as the first female major-party nominee for President. NOBODY else has done that. AND she got more votes.

SergeStorms

(19,190 posts)
12. Well, she is Mrs.Greenspan.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:20 AM
Feb 2022

I think her political leanings tilt toward the right. At 75 + years of age, I think she should retire to spend more time with her family. She certainly doesn't need the money.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
17. Well, her ego evidently does need the relevancy.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:03 AM
Feb 2022

At 75, she should retire! And make room so more deserving talent can move up.

If I were running MSNBC, she'd be my first dismissal. Followed a few minutes later by Chuck "Mr. Smug" Todd.

blue-wave

(4,347 posts)
16. There are many, many people who owe Hillary an apology
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:50 AM
Feb 2022

and dare I say on all sides of the political spectrum. Even to this day people try to make her insignificant by drowning out her voice. But you know what? They will never stop her.

Thank you Hillary for everything!

dalton99a

(81,426 posts)
2. They owe the Clintons an apology for inventing and peddling the Whitewater scandal
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:03 AM
Feb 2022

And the world an apology for inventing and peddling the Iraqi Weapons of Mass Destruction

among other inventions


Deuxcents

(16,154 posts)
3. An apology is the least of this for her
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:09 AM
Feb 2022

They slandered and cost her and US her rightful place. They owe her and US not only an apology but an in depth investigation on why..and to turn over all info so that tfg can earn his rightful place in jail. No I’m sorry crap. This was an all out assault on our most qualified person ever to run for President. Our democracy is fragile for the results of this and it goes all the way to Mueller, too. Imo

peggysue2

(10,826 posts)
7. Lots and lots of apologies
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:24 AM
Feb 2022

Mountains of apologies that will never be delivered.

Instead, we got the Squatter-in-Chief who brought the country to its knees and is still creating havoc.

Thanks to the NYT's and many journalists who either didn't care to look deeply enough or were swept up by the Con of the Ages. Because the Former Guy was so-o-o entertaining. And HRC was boring, too stiff, had no charisma.

How did that work out for all of us. Huh?

There's a reason I dumped my NYT's subscription, the so-called 'paper of record'. Because they knew exactly who Trump was and failed to report it.

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
9. For those jumping to conclusions, Merrill admits he's just guessing.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:35 AM
Feb 2022

"Apparently the editors declined it." He doesn't really know, then. He's faking it.

[link:


?s=20&t=fP-Q9ga8Nv_BxvvuITr1ag|

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
28. He says "apparently" ... which means he doesn't really know ...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:46 AM
Feb 2022

... He's drawing a conclusion based on nothing.

W_HAMILTON

(7,849 posts)
31. I took the "apparently" to mean his accusation of the editors...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:06 PM
Feb 2022

...being the ones who chose not to include it -- not "apparently" that the comment was asked for, provided, and yet not included in the article. That part was verified. I mean, we can read the article and see the comment is not included...

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
33. But where did the comment come from?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:17 PM
Feb 2022

There's no indication they even had that comment from her. There is an anecdote about her in there, but nothing referring to that. If that comment she made was made elsewhere, it may have been after the article was published.

Response to LetMyPeopleVote (Original post)

brush

(53,758 posts)
24. Am I reading this wrong? It seems the poster is saying this.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:19 AM
Feb 2022
"Back in 2016, their reporter Maggie Haberman amplified the Hillary Clinton conspiracy which Trump campaigned on. I and many other conservatives who supported Trump (including others like me who learned this was a mistake) did our best to get this to the masses to say ‘Hillary Clinton was an irresponsible leader and unfit to be President.’ At the time I was spreading this lie, I didn’t know it was a lie, and the fact that the Times writer amplified it, even more, made us believe we were right and this possibly persuaded undecided electoral voters to pick Trump. Little did I know that I would eventually learn that Hillary Clinton was exonerated of any wrongdoing, and I apologized for my part in spreading this lie.


Are those the poster's words? I hope I'm reading this wrong.

betsuni

(25,438 posts)
22. The diabolically corrupt cartoon villain many helped create, where is she now?
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:52 AM
Feb 2022

On one of her many yachts gulping champagne with Russian oligarchs plotting the demise of the United States? No? Well, what were all those lies for? Still hear lies about her. Idiots, every last single one.

Meowmee

(5,164 posts)
27. No apologies
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:34 AM
Feb 2022

Will ever repair the damage they have done ushering in fascism. Millions murdered…

They will probably never admit it but they know what they have done.

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
34. You guys seem to have forgotten that if it wasn't for Comey, she likely would have won.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:21 PM
Feb 2022

The Times didn't provide the final screw, even with the coverage of the email issue. Comey did. The emails had to be covered, whether we liked it or not. The problem, as I see it, was Trump was able to cloud his issues and put the focus on her and the emails and the press reacted, perhaps very blindly. But in the end, really, it was Comey who killed her campaign. He should be the real villain here, not the Times.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
38. There was no one final screw. It took many attacks from many
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:53 PM
Feb 2022

directions to take down the Democratic Party in 2016.

Including from the GOP-supporting MSM, the religious right, RW plutocrats, the anti-Democratic "call-me-Progressive" LW populists, tRump's RW populists, Russia, Iran and China, and of course the FBI.

It took them all to accomplish it -- barely.

Silent3

(15,178 posts)
39. That's the crazy thing -- the closer the election outcome, the more blame there is to go around
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:59 PM
Feb 2022

Every single individual negative and positive factor then becomes vitally important, they all become tipping points.

The NYT and the rest of the so-called "liberal media", in their email feeding frenzy, are easily one of the many single things that, if they hadn't happened, could have lead to a Clinton victory.

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
40. If you feel like the MSM is supported by the GOP then ....
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:02 PM
Feb 2022

... you won't expect any new Trump revelations, correct? If you don't you are sadly mistaken. And you can credit the free press for those, not a Republican nooz stooge like Fawks.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
41. I don't feel "the MSM are supported by the GOP," Ifican.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 06:15 PM
Feb 2022

They both, and the wealthy powers who largely control and fund, and/or in some cases own, many of them have important interests in common, though.

Btw, Dean Baquet, who used his power to steer the nation to Republican victory in 2016, is still executive editor of the NYT, CNN is still Fox-Lite, last I looked the same people were in charge at the AP..., etc. On and on. And on and on.

We still won the popular vote by millions. It says something big about the importance of liberalism and progressive government in the lives of Americans, most of whom can't actually explain what they are, that it takes so much to defeat us.

msfiddlestix

(7,272 posts)
37. It feels to me like HRC has significant grounds for lawsuits.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 05:25 PM
Feb 2022

I'm not a lawyer, never been to law school, never filed a lawsuit not even small claims.

However I have had some experience as a volunteer doing a hell of a lot of grunt work with others, filing civil lawsuit against a national media organization. It took a couple of years (maybe 3) and though it wasn't easy by any stretch of the imagination, we did come out victorious in the end. Hillary has a case if anyone does and I'm pretty sure she'd have a nation of volunteers to help with the grunt work involved in these kinds of battles. I'm sure she has enough money to raise an army of 'volunteers' but if she was financially struggling. money still wouldn't be a problem.

Anyone here think she doesn't have cause for lawsuits against NYT other media organizations and against certain individuals?

edit to correct







Latest Discussions»General Discussion»OPINION: The NY Times owe...