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What is Fox & Friends going on about concerning John Durham??? (Original Post) skip fox Feb 2022 OP
This is HUGE in RW circles underpants Feb 2022 #1
They're trying desperately to distract and deflect from the whole Trump situation. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #2
Fox is the network of 'selective broadcasting'... Septua Feb 2022 #11
Exactly jcgoldie Feb 2022 #16
Orders of magnitude Septua Feb 2022 #22
Yeah I was just talking about... jcgoldie Feb 2022 #24
"Don't look back at January 6 move forward". But they can't quit Hillary Walleye Feb 2022 #3
Asking about what Faux and Friends is going on about maxrandb Feb 2022 #4
I'd love it if someone like David Pakman laid this out. skip fox Feb 2022 #5
Can't be, DOJ doesn't leak. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #7
John Durham is the special prosecutor gab13by13 Feb 2022 #6
How long is his mandate? Mad_Machine76 Feb 2022 #20
As others are saying. The old, "Omg, the wicked witch is coming!," Hortensis Feb 2022 #8
A big nothingburger, Seth Abramson has a thread on it. There was a link on DU. dem4decades Feb 2022 #9
DNS lookups blogslug Feb 2022 #10
Is this what you are referring to? zaj Feb 2022 #14
If you knew the IP of my website you could blogslug Feb 2022 #17
Thanks for that, but to be clear... zaj Feb 2022 #18
Thanks blogslug Feb 2022 #19
You had the truth as well! zaj Feb 2022 #21
They don't know what the story is, so they are just making up crap zaj Feb 2022 #12
Extremely useful. Thanks. skip fox Feb 2022 #13
BIGGEST STORY ON FAKE NEWS SITE (FAUX) - CNN hasn't touched it. spanone Feb 2022 #15
It was at the top of all the newsbreaks when I was listening to the radio earlier today Bettie Feb 2022 #23
Latest nothing-burger in John Durham's failed revenge plot-Prepare to be *dramatically* underwhelmed LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #25

GoCubsGo

(32,079 posts)
2. They're trying desperately to distract and deflect from the whole Trump situation.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:48 AM
Feb 2022

Not just his document theft, either. Given how McConnell and others are trying to distance themselves from Trump, and condemning the Jan. 6 insurrection, it looks like they know something really big is about to drop that won't be favorable to Trump or the GOP. Trump's propaganda channel is doing everything they can to head things off before it comes to light.

Septua

(2,254 posts)
11. Fox is the network of 'selective broadcasting'...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 09:59 AM
Feb 2022

..telling viewers what Fox wants them to hear, which is nothing negative about Trump or Retrumplicans and everything negative about Biden and Dems, most of which is disinformation. But what they broadcast is what most of the viewers want to hear, sadly.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
16. Exactly
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:16 PM
Feb 2022

Wait, so Trump did something like what we accused HRC of doing in 2016 and based our entire platform on, only Trump's offense was several orders of magnitude worse?? Shit! Someone hurry up and ratchet up the buttery males nonsense!

Septua

(2,254 posts)
22. Orders of magnitude
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:16 PM
Feb 2022

True...no previous offenses by any President or high ranking public official comes close to Trump's despotism. He has broken every norm, every standard and numerous laws.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
24. Yeah I was just talking about...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:22 PM
Feb 2022

...snatching boxes full of classified documents from the whitehouse and leaving them lying around the mansion at maralago for a year as compared to examining thousands of emails of which 4 contained classified designations which were mismarked. If you include all of his other illegal shit then its not even a fair fight...

maxrandb

(15,320 posts)
4. Asking about what Faux and Friends is going on about
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:53 AM
Feb 2022

is like asking someone to take seriously, a bunch of ignorant fucksticks you know in your soul, should NEVER be taken seriously

You might as well ask your dog to solve an Algebra equation.

skip fox

(19,356 posts)
5. I'd love it if someone like David Pakman laid this out.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:54 AM
Feb 2022

It's blowing up at the NY Post and Fox.

It does sound like they know something big against Trump is about to drop.

So we need credible sources to deal with this to show this for whatever it is.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
6. John Durham is the special prosecutor
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 09:01 AM
Feb 2022

appointed by Barr. Barr put in guard rails so he couldn't be fired, he is still getting paid by taxpayers. His original mission was to dig up dirt on the Bidens, it now appears he has moved on to digging up dirt on Hillary.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. As others are saying. The old, "Omg, the wicked witch is coming!,"
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 09:12 AM
Feb 2022

to distract from the pileup on the right. It is fascinating to see how hot and useful unresolved Hillary derangement still burns, though.

Just visited a radical left board a bunch of anyone-but-Hillary DUers fled to to see what they're saying, and it's far calmer. The Hillary coals still banked. Yes, she Obama, and Biden still all want to burn AND blow up the world (Kuwait's presumably amped up the anxiety), but not before they (finally!) succeed in destroying Social Security for their corporate bosses. A couple less deluded voices on the latter were nice to see. There are real differences between LW extremists and RW, as long as they remain separate. No idea how many members spend more time on currently raging populist sites, though.

blogslug

(37,998 posts)
10. DNS lookups
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 09:41 AM
Feb 2022

They're trying to claim that analyzing data anyone can access is some kind of illegal search because they're betting the majority of their audience is uninformed and intimidated by tech stuff.

blogslug

(37,998 posts)
17. If you knew the IP of my website you could
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 12:51 PM
Feb 2022

It says right in the article you posted that DNS queries are not encrypted. Anyone with a tool can do it.




Chet Ramey@chetramey

Sure, I'll take a shot here. There's no "infiltrating" or "spying." It's all just dumb and sensational.

1. DNS traffic records are lookups and responses. They are not confidential. There's no "infiltrating" going on here. In fact, Joffe's company (Neustar) ran a huge DNS resolver.

2. DNS servers and load balancers change DNS information, or return different answers to the same query, all the time. This is normal behavior, just to head off the "queries were changed" BS.

3. Infosec monitors DNS lookups all the time for evidence of attempted attacks and misuse. There's nothing unusual about that. This is basic data mining and aggregation.

4. DNS monitoring as a service is a very popular business; a large number of companies engage with it as part of their infosec activities.

5. Joffe's company was hired to monitor DNS traffic as part of a contract, and had been doing so for the government since at least 2014. This is legal.

6. Neustar had multiple contracts with the federal government, including one to provide DNS service. It's right there in Durham's statement. Together with its other business, it had the data, so no "spying."


 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
18. Thanks for that, but to be clear...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:20 PM
Feb 2022

1) the tweets and other liked articles helped answer my question

2) I'm not sure our prior discussion was accruate, so to clarify...

3) you and I *cannot* lookup DNS activity of Trump tower or the White House... That's not how DNS lookups work. We can only directly learn of our own DNS activity, not 3rd parties. (Which was my question and confusion). But...

4) there are many firms who can do this because those firms operate the dns servers and thus, also own the logs of all of the traffic, which itself is unencrypted (at you pointed out). And....

5) they sell this data as a data service for use in these types of internet traffic investigations.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
12. They don't know what the story is, so they are just making up crap
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 10:03 AM
Feb 2022

Here's a decent tread to catch up.

TLDR; Durham is acting as a political operative, legally leaking details that the GOP can spin into a frenzy.




Click through for the entire thread.

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
23. It was at the top of all the newsbreaks when I was listening to the radio earlier today
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:17 PM
Feb 2022

they are certainly trying to make it a story.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,129 posts)
25. Latest nothing-burger in John Durham's failed revenge plot-Prepare to be *dramatically* underwhelmed
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 04:04 PM
Feb 2022

I read the Durham filing last night and was amused. There is nothing in this filing that proves anything.

I was amused to find this thread on Durham's latest nothingburger


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