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Zorro

(15,740 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:24 PM Feb 2022

Crew Subdues Berserk Passenger With Coffee Pot on DC Flight, Forcing Emergency Landing

The unnamed flier reportedly attempted to breach the cockpit before turning to the aircraft’s door.

Wielding their aircraft galley’s coffee pot as a makeshift weapon, the crew of an American Airlines flight from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C. subdued a passenger attempting to pry open the plane’s door on Sunday afternoon.

The harrowing scene, and subsequent emergency landing, was chronicled on social media by numerous passengers on Flight 1775. One posted a video of the pilot confirming that the suspect tried to barge into the cockpit first.

“He was trying to but he couldn’t get to it,” the pilot told another passenger, in footage of the conversation shared on Twitter. The pilot said the man then attempted to open the plane’s door—which would have been disastrous at that altitude.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/unruly-passenger-forces-american-airlines-flight-from-los-angeles-to-dc-to-land-in-kansas-city
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Crew Subdues Berserk Passenger With Coffee Pot on DC Flight, Forcing Emergency Landing (Original Post) Zorro Feb 2022 OP
I thought after 9/11, all cockpit doors were kept locked... Karadeniz Feb 2022 #1
Yes but the pilot and copilot MissB Feb 2022 #5
Aaah! Makes sense... Karadeniz Feb 2022 #6
Is it just me... jmowreader Feb 2022 #8
That would require a serious redesign of the plane's Miguelito Loveless Feb 2022 #10
Not sure about that jmowreader Feb 2022 #11
Now imagine Miguelito Loveless Feb 2022 #12
can't they just go in a jar? LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #21
And leave the poor pilots to deal with the aftersmell? RFCalifornia Feb 2022 #19
Guess they were out of duct tape... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #2
Also they Rebl2 Feb 2022 #9
Add an airlock for such occasions. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #14
there's got to be some criminal prosecution here LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #23
So, the crew used the stand your "grounds" defense of the cockpit? Ok, sorry. dameatball Feb 2022 #3
Jokes like that will get you in hot water. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #15
Dam, planes are now safer than the passengers. fightforfreedom Feb 2022 #4
Subways of the Sky superpatriotman Feb 2022 #7
If that prick ever gets out of jail, should still be on the no-fly list. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #16
He couldn't have opened an exterior door at altitude. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #13
I Agree With This ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #17
I was in the industry for awhile. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #18
How bad would it be if someone managed treestar Feb 2022 #20
The person opening the door might fall out. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #24
This is why D.B. Cooper had the plane fly at a low altitude when he jumped RFCalifornia Feb 2022 #22

MissB

(15,806 posts)
5. Yes but the pilot and copilot
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:35 PM
Feb 2022

Can go use the restroom if needed. I don’t fly that often but when I do, I fly first class because… comfort. I truly do not like being squished against other folks.

Anyway, when the pilot needs to use the forward restroom, the flight crew takes one of the rolling units and barricades the aisle from the galley side, so that the pilot can go use the bathroom or grab a sandwich or whatever. No passengers can go beyond the first row until the barricade is moved.

But yes, the doors are locked. Doesn’t mean someone wouldn’t try to breach.

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
8. Is it just me...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:41 PM
Feb 2022

…or should the FAA after 9/11 have mandated that all new airliners made after that date be equipped with a toilet in the cockpit?

jmowreader

(50,557 posts)
11. Not sure about that
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:47 PM
Feb 2022

Airliners all have jump seats in the cockpit. What would be the feasibility of replacing the jump seat with a toilet plumbed into the aircraft’s wastewater system, with a curtain for privacy?

Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
2. Guess they were out of duct tape...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:31 PM
Feb 2022


People doing this shit should legitimately be placed on the no-fly list, pronto. Make them walk home.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
7. Subways of the Sky
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 01:39 PM
Feb 2022

I will post this term 'Subways of the Sky' until the laws are re written and every offender is placed on a no-fly list indefinitely.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
13. He couldn't have opened an exterior door at altitude.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:34 PM
Feb 2022

Airplanes have plug-type doors that are held shut not only by their latches but by the air pressure inside the airplane (usually the equivalent of 8,000 feet above sea level). It's impossible to open a door at 35,000 feet. But it would be unsettling to see somebody try.

ProfessorGAC

(65,010 posts)
17. I Agree With This
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 02:50 PM
Feb 2022

We've got some DUers in the industry that could confirm or refute, but I believe the situation to be as you described.
At 30,000 feet, the delta P from the inside to the outside is nearly 10.5 psig.
The door has to be 15-18 square feet.
It takes over a ton of force to open the door.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
18. I was in the industry for awhile.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 03:04 PM
Feb 2022

Used to teach that stuff. You are correct in your analysis. Passengers will freak out if somebody tries to open the door, but it can't be done until the aircraft is at breathing altitude, 10,000 feet or less.

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