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The unnamed flier reportedly attempted to breach the cockpit before turning to the aircrafts door.Wielding their aircraft galleys coffee pot as a makeshift weapon, the crew of an American Airlines flight from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C. subdued a passenger attempting to pry open the planes door on Sunday afternoon.
The harrowing scene, and subsequent emergency landing, was chronicled on social media by numerous passengers on Flight 1775. One posted a video of the pilot confirming that the suspect tried to barge into the cockpit first.
He was trying to but he couldnt get to it, the pilot told another passenger, in footage of the conversation shared on Twitter. The pilot said the man then attempted to open the planes doorwhich would have been disastrous at that altitude.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/unruly-passenger-forces-american-airlines-flight-from-los-angeles-to-dc-to-land-in-kansas-city
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)MissB
(15,806 posts)Can go use the restroom if needed. I dont fly that often but when I do, I fly first class because
comfort. I truly do not like being squished against other folks.
Anyway, when the pilot needs to use the forward restroom, the flight crew takes one of the rolling units and barricades the aisle from the galley side, so that the pilot can go use the bathroom or grab a sandwich or whatever. No passengers can go beyond the first row until the barricade is moved.
But yes, the doors are locked. Doesnt mean someone wouldnt try to breach.
Karadeniz
(22,513 posts)jmowreader
(50,557 posts)or should the FAA after 9/11 have mandated that all new airliners made after that date be equipped with a toilet in the cockpit?
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)flight deck.
jmowreader
(50,557 posts)Airliners all have jump seats in the cockpit. What would be the feasibility of replacing the jump seat with a toilet plumbed into the aircrafts wastewater system, with a curtain for privacy?
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)an overflowing toilet on the flight deck...
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)admittedly it's more difficult for females
RFCalifornia
(440 posts)Cruel and unusual punishment if you ask me
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)People doing this shit should legitimately be placed on the no-fly list, pronto. Make them walk home.
Rebl2
(13,498 posts)should go to jail for a time.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Let them try to fly home.
LymphocyteLover
(5,644 posts)dameatball
(7,397 posts)lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Or so I've bean told.
fightforfreedom
(4,913 posts)I think I will put myself on a, I will never fly list.
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)I will post this term 'Subways of the Sky' until the laws are re written and every offender is placed on a no-fly list indefinitely.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Ocelot II
(115,683 posts)Airplanes have plug-type doors that are held shut not only by their latches but by the air pressure inside the airplane (usually the equivalent of 8,000 feet above sea level). It's impossible to open a door at 35,000 feet. But it would be unsettling to see somebody try.
ProfessorGAC
(65,010 posts)We've got some DUers in the industry that could confirm or refute, but I believe the situation to be as you described.
At 30,000 feet, the delta P from the inside to the outside is nearly 10.5 psig.
The door has to be 15-18 square feet.
It takes over a ton of force to open the door.
Ocelot II
(115,683 posts)Used to teach that stuff. You are correct in your analysis. Passengers will freak out if somebody tries to open the door, but it can't be done until the aircraft is at breathing altitude, 10,000 feet or less.
treestar
(82,383 posts)to open the door at 9000 feet?