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Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:51 PM Feb 2022

In Russia's Ukraine Plans, How Much Does the Mud Matter?

MOSCOW — The Russian expression “tanks don’t fear mud” is common enough that it’s been the title of a short-lived Russian television series and can be found stenciled on car windows.

And it’s yet another reason why any Russian decision to invade Ukraine is likely to depend very little upon fears that a spring thaw will hinder tanks from crossing boggy ground. Russia’s military has, in addition to tanks and other armored vehicles that are well equipped for mud, a range of fighter jets and missiles that are the hallmarks of any modern military.

U.S. President Joe Biden has said that Russia is essentially in position for an invasion of Ukraine “assuming that the ground is frozen above Kyiv,” the Ukrainian capital that is only 75 kilometers (47 miles) from the border of Belarus, a key Russian ally. It’s not the first time an American official has invoked Russia’s need for frozen ground to stage an invasion.

But analysts trying to figure out how Russia could invade say any assault would start with air and missile strikes, likely targeting Ukrainian military sites.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/02/14/russias-ukraine-plans-how-much-does-mud-matter.html

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In Russia's Ukraine Plans, How Much Does the Mud Matter? (Original Post) Sherman A1 Feb 2022 OP
Air power and missiles will cause more civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #1
A good amount, imo. elleng Feb 2022 #2
For tanks, no problem sarisataka Feb 2022 #3

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
1. Air power and missiles will cause more civilian casualties and destruction of infrastructure.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 07:56 PM
Feb 2022

And typically you are still going to need ground troops to secure the battle area after you blow it to smithereens.

sarisataka

(18,600 posts)
3. For tanks, no problem
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 08:00 PM
Feb 2022

Especially Russian tanks which tend to have wider tracks because they are used in mud.

The support vehicles are another story. Mostly wheeled, the tankers that bring fuel, trucks that deliver food and ammunition can be seriously affected by mud.

Still, Russia knows General Mud and his effects very well.

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