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Special counsel John Durham accused a lawyer for the Democrats of sharing with the CIA in 2017 internet data purported to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex, as part of a broader effort to raise the intelligence community's suspicions of Donald Trump's ties to Russia shortly after he took office.
The accusation -- which Durham couched in vague, technical language in a court filing late Friday -- has been seized upon by Trump and his supporters, who claim the former President was subjected to a smear campaign.
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Right-wing media outlets and Republican politicians, including Trump, are citing Durham's court filing to accuse Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign of spying on Trump because of the use of the data.
But Durham's court filing doesn't allege that the pro-Clinton researchers use of internet data meant that there was any eavesdropping on content of communications.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-durham-alleges-clinton-campaign-lawyer-used-data-to-raise-suspicions-about-trump/ar-AATQQ82
Let me just say the timing of this is suspicious given the recent crap that's come out about Trump.
elleng
(131,390 posts)that there was any eavesdropping on content of communications.'
Wounded Bear
(58,778 posts)CincyDem
(6,419 posts)Not relative to HRC campaign but just on a fundamental national security level?
Budi
(15,325 posts)Mazars outs Trump corrupt financials in the morning, and Hillary leads headlines by the evening.
You really going to fall for this propped up propaganda again!?
Cha
(298,039 posts)TY💙
blogslug
(38,022 posts)Remember that? It severely damaged Dan Rather's career. The facts of the scandal were never disproven, only that a document had been re-typed and wingnuts hammered that point so vociferously the truth was lost down the memory hole.
Durham is not alleging that Perkins-Coie attorney Sussman and the DNS monitoring company illegally accessed data. He's alleging they said they were not working for the Clinton campaign when they presented data about comms between Trump and Alpha Bank to James Baker. The data was accessed legally but the people who told the FBI about it may have lied about working for HRC's campaign.
So, once again, the truth of the scandal, that Trump servers were exchanging data with Russian servers, that gets swept aside in a big old wingnut tornado of outrage.
Budi
(15,325 posts)NY Times & Maggie Haberman will run 180 days of front page exclusives on Hillary & bury Trump/Mazars in a small one time paragraph on a back page.
Where have we seen this before?
Durham is as corrupt as Barr.
Cha
(298,039 posts)this SHIT!
Can anything be done about this?
It seems like TFCG is actually being charged & the Expiration date has Expired on whatever Shit Durham planned.
Budi
(15,325 posts)...Trump became the Media's fascist cash cow for 4 years & counting....$$$$
Because Hillary is a bigger money draw than Trump.
Every time.
cha fking ching.
Cha
(298,039 posts)It's Heartbreaking.. I Hope it BACKFIRES on their Ugly Assfaces!
Team Hillary knows what's happening
LiberalFighter
(51,349 posts)Or was chummy with Epstein and what's her name?
ificandream
(9,421 posts)... when shit like this comes out they try to divert attention. The thing here is what the fuck are Russian-made phones doing being used in the vicinity of the White House? There's nothing wrong with it being revealed. In fact, damn it, it's important that it is. And what the hell is Durham doing complaining about this when there's nothing to complain about?
Budi
(15,325 posts)This suggestive 'story' in case his boss Trump goes down.
M.A.Z.A.R.S. just left Trump standing naked for the world to see. All his criming, all his bullshit.
And Durham distracts with the ONLY person who has a bigger media audience than Trump.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)spanone
(135,929 posts)FUCK. THEM. ALL.
Budi
(15,325 posts)She correctly named it in 1998, & she's correct about the statement still today.
unblock
(52,494 posts)sarcasmo
(23,968 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)"The answer is YES.
Mazars letter is dated Feb 9, so assuming hes known it was coming for a while.
The sudden virulent public rehash of Hilary Clinton's "misdeeds" by GOP also fits nicely into the publication of the Mazars' letter.
Link to tweet
Trump to Durham:
"DO SOMETHING!! "
DISTRACT! DISTRACT!
Budi
(15,325 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)Here's the bullshit of it all:
Tech Exec had LAWFUL ACCESS into government servers, UNCOVERED CRIMINAL INFO linking Russia and Trump, Sussman learned of the criminality between Trump and Russia and told the FBI.
End of story, Now finish what Muller didn't
Link to tweet
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,894 posts)This article sort of explains why the MAGA nut cases are so excited. These MAGA nut cases are really stupid and their excitement amuses me
Link to tweet
The theory behind the Alfa Bank rumor is complicated. Sussmans law firm, Perkins Coie, had been retained by Clintons campaign (leading it, separately, to engage the investigative firm Fusion GPS that later generated the infamous dossier of reports alleging a more robust connection between Russia and Trumps team). An unidentified individual first noticed traffic between the Trump server and the Russian bank and brought it to an executive at a technology firm who had retained Perkins Coie and was working with Sussman. (Wheeler has an excellent timeline of all of this.) That triggered an effort to examine the scope of those connections, one that at least some of those involved in the research apparently understood to be an effort to create a jumping-off point for further research that could bolster a Trump-Russia narrative. (The tech executive, Ill note, wasnt sold on the Alfa-Trump link even back in August 2016.) Durhams filing ties the campaign to Sussman and Sussman to the executive, but its not explicitly argued that the probe flowed down from Clintons team or up to it.......
ts important here to know why those records might have been collected. An expert on the technology with whom I spoke on Monday explained that Internet service providers often allow third parties to collect domain name lookups because the information is useful for tracking bad actors on the Internet. If, for example, there are suddenly a number of lookups to we11sfargo.com, with ones replacing the Ls in the domain name, that might suggest some effort to redirect traffic away from the bank to some spoof site. Or organizations might similarly have a passive DNS collection process in place so that they might know if theres a sudden spike in lookups for unusual servers in, say, Russia an early indication that maybe someone is trying to run a scam targeting employees.....
Its useful to note that Durhams claim about data being exploited emerged early. Both Wheeler and Graham elevated questions about the ethics of digging through collected DNS records to investigate something that was probably outside of any agreement governing what the data was being collected for. But that doesnt mean 1) that any laws were violated or 2) that this constitutes hacking. If I give you a key to my house and you use it to come in and read my diary, I will certainly be angry with you, but its not like you committed burglary.
After reading this article, it become even clearer that there were no laws breached and that Durham is wasting everyone's time