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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(108,458 posts)
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:20 PM Feb 2022

Special counsel Durham alleges Clinton campaign lawyer used data to raise suspicions about Trump

Special counsel John Durham accused a lawyer for the Democrats of sharing with the CIA in 2017 internet data purported to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex, as part of a broader effort to raise the intelligence community's suspicions of Donald Trump's ties to Russia shortly after he took office.

The accusation -- which Durham couched in vague, technical language in a court filing late Friday -- has been seized upon by Trump and his supporters, who claim the former President was subjected to a smear campaign.

-snip-

Right-wing media outlets and Republican politicians, including Trump, are citing Durham's court filing to accuse Hillary Clinton's 2016 campaign of spying on Trump because of the use of the data.

But Durham's court filing doesn't allege that the pro-Clinton researchers use of internet data meant that there was any eavesdropping on content of communications.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/special-counsel-durham-alleges-clinton-campaign-lawyer-used-data-to-raise-suspicions-about-trump/ar-AATQQ82

Let me just say the timing of this is suspicious given the recent crap that's come out about Trump.

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Special counsel Durham alleges Clinton campaign lawyer used data to raise suspicions about Trump (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Feb 2022 OP
'Durham's court filing doesn't allege that the pro-Clinton researchers use of internet data meant elleng Feb 2022 #1
They're reaching pretty far back to project their crimes on the Dems/Hillary... Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #2
And...if the data is true...isn't that concerning in and of itself. CincyDem Feb 2022 #3
As 'concerning' as her Emails that were never really a concern Budi Feb 2022 #6
REALLY! Sometimes I Cannot! Cha Feb 2022 #10
To me, this is kind of like GW Bush's AWOL scandal blogslug Feb 2022 #22
Boy, Mazars hangs Trump out to dry & Trump's guy, Durham invokes Hillary! Budi Feb 2022 #4
Thanks Again.. I hate Cha Feb 2022 #11
Durham created & dropped the headline bombshell because in 2016, Her Emails' worked so well, that... Budi Feb 2022 #15
There's got be somethinhg that can Stop them.. Cha Feb 2022 #16
👍💙 Budi Feb 2022 #17
Push that Maggie gets girls for TFG? LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #19
It's funny how ... ificandream Feb 2022 #5
Durham had just ONE job. Budi Feb 2022 #9
Like this excuses their crimes or something? Brainfodder Feb 2022 #7
The GQP has been after the Clintons, how many years? It's an unhealthy obsession. spanone Feb 2022 #8
1998. 1st Lady Hillary Clinton publicly called it a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy Budi Feb 2022 #12
"All this Russia stuff I did in 2017 was a smear they did to try to win in 2016! unblock Feb 2022 #13
Hillary is the Republican boogeyman. Fox News can scream Hillary 24/7 like it was 2016. sarcasmo Feb 2022 #14
Because AGTish James is coming after Trump Org with a chainsaw Budi Feb 2022 #18
Durham never used the term 'Infiltrate'. Fox News's hosts & Kash Patel said 'Hacked' Budi Feb 2022 #20
Tech Exec had LAWFUL ACCESS into government servers, UNCOVERED CRIMINAL INFO linking Russia and Tru Budi Feb 2022 #21
Why Trump is once again claiming that he was spied upon in 2016 LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #23

elleng

(131,390 posts)
1. 'Durham's court filing doesn't allege that the pro-Clinton researchers use of internet data meant
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:24 PM
Feb 2022

that there was any eavesdropping on content of communications.'

CincyDem

(6,419 posts)
3. And...if the data is true...isn't that concerning in and of itself.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:38 PM
Feb 2022

Not relative to HRC campaign but just on a fundamental national security level?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
6. As 'concerning' as her Emails that were never really a concern
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:46 PM
Feb 2022

Mazars outs Trump corrupt financials in the morning, and Hillary leads headlines by the evening.

You really going to fall for this propped up propaganda again!?



blogslug

(38,022 posts)
22. To me, this is kind of like GW Bush's AWOL scandal
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:38 AM
Feb 2022

Remember that? It severely damaged Dan Rather's career. The facts of the scandal were never disproven, only that a document had been re-typed and wingnuts hammered that point so vociferously the truth was lost down the memory hole.

Durham is not alleging that Perkins-Coie attorney Sussman and the DNS monitoring company illegally accessed data. He's alleging they said they were not working for the Clinton campaign when they presented data about comms between Trump and Alpha Bank to James Baker. The data was accessed legally but the people who told the FBI about it may have lied about working for HRC's campaign.

So, once again, the truth of the scandal, that Trump servers were exchanging data with Russian servers, that gets swept aside in a big old wingnut tornado of outrage.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Boy, Mazars hangs Trump out to dry & Trump's guy, Durham invokes Hillary!
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:41 PM
Feb 2022

NY Times & Maggie Haberman will run 180 days of front page exclusives on Hillary & bury Trump/Mazars in a small one time paragraph on a back page.

Where have we seen this before?

Durham is as corrupt as Barr.

Cha

(298,039 posts)
11. Thanks Again.. I hate
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:00 AM
Feb 2022

this SHIT!

Can anything be done about this?

It seems like TFCG is actually being charged & the Expiration date has Expired on whatever Shit Durham planned.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
15. Durham created & dropped the headline bombshell because in 2016, Her Emails' worked so well, that...
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:07 AM
Feb 2022

...Trump became the Media's fascist cash cow for 4 years & counting....$$$$

Because Hillary is a bigger money draw than Trump.
Every time.
cha fking ching.



Cha

(298,039 posts)
16. There's got be somethinhg that can Stop them..
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:15 AM
Feb 2022

It's Heartbreaking.. I Hope it BACKFIRES on their Ugly Assfaces!

Team Hillary knows what's happening

ificandream

(9,421 posts)
5. It's funny how ...
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:43 PM
Feb 2022

... when shit like this comes out they try to divert attention. The thing here is what the fuck are Russian-made phones doing being used in the vicinity of the White House? There's nothing wrong with it being revealed. In fact, damn it, it's important that it is. And what the hell is Durham doing complaining about this when there's nothing to complain about?

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
9. Durham had just ONE job.
Mon Feb 14, 2022, 11:53 PM
Feb 2022

This suggestive 'story' in case his boss Trump goes down.
M.A.Z.A.R.S. just left Trump standing naked for the world to see. All his criming, all his bullshit.
And Durham distracts with the ONLY person who has a bigger media audience than Trump.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
12. 1998. 1st Lady Hillary Clinton publicly called it a Vast Right Wing Conspiracy
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:02 AM
Feb 2022

She correctly named it in 1998, & she's correct about the statement still today.




 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Because AGTish James is coming after Trump Org with a chainsaw
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:31 AM
Feb 2022
MAZARS' Letter is dated Feb 9th.

"The answer is YES.
Mazars letter is dated Feb 9, so assuming he’s known it was coming for a while.

The sudden virulent public rehash of Hilary Clinton's "misdeeds" by GOP also fits nicely into the publication of the Mazars' letter.





Trump to Durham:
"DO SOMETHING!! "

DISTRACT! DISTRACT!

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
21. Tech Exec had LAWFUL ACCESS into government servers, UNCOVERED CRIMINAL INFO linking Russia and Tru
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 01:23 AM
Feb 2022

Here's the bullshit of it all:

Tech Exec had LAWFUL ACCESS into government servers, UNCOVERED CRIMINAL INFO linking Russia and Trump, Sussman learned of the criminality between Trump and Russia and told the FBI.
End of story, Now finish what Muller didn't



LetMyPeopleVote

(145,894 posts)
23. Why Trump is once again claiming that he was spied upon in 2016
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 02:18 AM
Feb 2022

This article sort of explains why the MAGA nut cases are so excited. These MAGA nut cases are really stupid and their excitement amuses me




You’ll recall that Trump’s core complaint as president was that the investigation into Russian interference and possible overlap with his campaign was unfounded. It wasn’t, involving probes into a number of individuals with obvious links to Russian actors. But Trump and his allies crafted a countervailing narrative centered on malfeasance by government officials — again, a claim downstream from Trump’s initial response to reports about the probe in which he asserted that government officials might be out to get him......

The theory behind the Alfa Bank rumor is complicated. Sussman’s law firm, Perkins Coie, had been retained by Clinton’s campaign (leading it, separately, to engage the investigative firm Fusion GPS that later generated the infamous dossier of reports alleging a more robust connection between Russia and Trump’s team). An unidentified individual first noticed traffic between the Trump server and the Russian bank and brought it to an executive at a technology firm who had retained Perkins Coie and was working with Sussman. (Wheeler has an excellent timeline of all of this.) That triggered an effort to examine the scope of those connections, one that at least some of those involved in the research apparently understood to be an effort to create a jumping-off point for further research that could bolster a Trump-Russia narrative. (The tech executive, I’ll note, wasn’t sold on the Alfa-Trump link even back in August 2016.) Durham’s filing ties the campaign to Sussman and Sussman to the executive, but it’s not explicitly argued that the probe flowed down from Clinton’s team — or up to it.......

t’s important here to know why those records might have been collected. An expert on the technology with whom I spoke on Monday explained that Internet service providers often allow third parties to collect domain name lookups because the information is useful for tracking bad actors on the Internet. If, for example, there are suddenly a number of lookups to we11sfargo.com, with ones replacing the Ls in the domain name, that might suggest some effort to redirect traffic away from the bank to some spoof site. Or organizations might similarly have a passive DNS collection process in place so that they might know if there’s a sudden spike in lookups for unusual servers in, say, Russia — an early indication that maybe someone is trying to run a scam targeting employees.....

It’s useful to note that Durham’s claim about data being “exploited” emerged early. Both Wheeler and Graham elevated questions about the ethics of digging through collected DNS records to investigate something that was probably outside of any agreement governing what the data was being collected for. But that doesn’t mean 1) that any laws were violated or 2) that this constitutes “hacking.” If I give you a key to my house and you use it to come in and read my diary, I will certainly be angry with you, but it’s not like you committed burglary.

After reading this article, it become even clearer that there were no laws breached and that Durham is wasting everyone's time
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