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This article sort of explains why the MAGA nut cases are so excited. These MAGA nut cases are really stupid and their excitement amuses me
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The theory behind the Alfa Bank rumor is complicated. Sussmans law firm, Perkins Coie, had been retained by Clintons campaign (leading it, separately, to engage the investigative firm Fusion GPS that later generated the infamous dossier of reports alleging a more robust connection between Russia and Trumps team). An unidentified individual first noticed traffic between the Trump server and the Russian bank and brought it to an executive at a technology firm who had retained Perkins Coie and was working with Sussman. (Wheeler has an excellent timeline of all of this.) That triggered an effort to examine the scope of those connections, one that at least some of those involved in the research apparently understood to be an effort to create a jumping-off point for further research that could bolster a Trump-Russia narrative. (The tech executive, Ill note, wasnt sold on the Alfa-Trump link even back in August 2016.) Durhams filing ties the campaign to Sussman and Sussman to the executive, but its not explicitly argued that the probe flowed down from Clintons team or up to it.......
ts important here to know why those records might have been collected. An expert on the technology with whom I spoke on Monday explained that Internet service providers often allow third parties to collect domain name lookups because the information is useful for tracking bad actors on the Internet. If, for example, there are suddenly a number of lookups to we11sfargo.com, with ones replacing the Ls in the domain name, that might suggest some effort to redirect traffic away from the bank to some spoof site. Or organizations might similarly have a passive DNS collection process in place so that they might know if theres a sudden spike in lookups for unusual servers in, say, Russia an early indication that maybe someone is trying to run a scam targeting employees.....
Its useful to note that Durhams claim about data being exploited emerged early. Both Wheeler and Graham elevated questions about the ethics of digging through collected DNS records to investigate something that was probably outside of any agreement governing what the data was being collected for. But that doesnt mean 1) that any laws were violated or 2) that this constitutes hacking. If I give you a key to my house and you use it to come in and read my diary, I will certainly be angry with you, but its not like you committed burglary.
After reading this article, it become even clearer that there were no laws breached and that Durham is wasting everyone's time
brer cat
(24,559 posts)Thanks for posting this, LMPV.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Durham's last gasp to shield his boss from a damning headline when MAZARS cut Trump Org loose and sent him adrift at sea, in his little rowboat with one oar.
It's the same old game & the only one Durham knows how to play.
It was Fox News's Kash Patel that 'suggested' a hacking took place, along with Fox host Hemmer.
Because THAT's what Fox's only job is.
Create a headline of propaganda that accuses others of that which Trump is guilty of.
It's the only page Fox has in their worn old playbook.
The Tech Exec had LAWFUL ACCESS into government servers, UNCOVERED CRIMINAL INFO linking Russia and Trump, Sussman learned of the criminality between Trump and Russia and told the FBI.
End of story, Now finish what Muller didn't
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Hekate
(90,645 posts)StClone
(11,683 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,129 posts)This so-called scandal is a joke. There is nothing there.
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She listed other flaws in Durham's investigation, and she expects Sussman to file a motion to dismiss the indictment against him -- and she believes the special counsel filed his pretrial motion last week to get ahead of that move.
"Probably what last Friday's stunt was about for Durham was an attempt to preempt that, an attempt to pretend that this investigation isn't kind of post-hoc a discovery of things," Wheeler said. "For example, he didn't investigate what the FBI's relationship is with Rodney Joffe before he charged Michael Sussman. He only pulled the communications when Sussman said, 'Why don't you find out what kind of relationship the FBI has with Joffe.' He discovered there were thousands of communications, so Durham is very close to position where Sussman is going to have the opportunity to say, 'You didn't do an investigation before you charged me.'"
"A week before he probably is going to have to do that this stunt comes out and you have all of these people who were witnesses, who fed these conspiracy theories to Durham on the front end," Wheeler concluded, "who then go on Fox News and make false claims about it. That's what the story is, Kash Patel garbage in, Kash Patel garbage out, and Trump threatening to kill people as a result."
kentuck
(111,079 posts)...knowing what we know now.
DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)all the time. Plenty of them were dirty too.
https://freakonomics.com/2007/11/the-complete-history-of-dirty-politics-a-qa-on-anything-for-a-vote/
randr
(12,409 posts)Whaah its all about me syndrome
lees1975
(3,845 posts)so this is another distraction and another lie.
ificandream
(9,363 posts)Distract and distort.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)And I really don't care. Do you?
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)One can make a career out of investigating things without the burden of ever proving anything.
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)It is so ridiculous, here something someone else did, as if it forgives his mountain+ of shit!
FUCK YOU WADDLE DUMP and DIE TRYING AT LEAST!
IT'S OFFICIAL: I FUCKING HATE YOU!
Signed,
Sensible People Who FUCKING HATE DJT!
Had to put your ugly mug on TV, had to.... could go on at least 100 lines?
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,129 posts)Like Joe, I read the pleadings and the last filing by Durham. These pleadings are poorly done and make no sense. The fact that Fox and conservative media is making a big deal out of this non-scandal is really amusing to me. Conservatives clearly are not capable of understanding the issues
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As CNN has reported, Durham "accused a lawyer for the Democrats of sharing with the CIA in 2017 internet data purported to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex, as part of a broader effort to raise the intelligence community's suspicions of Donald Trump's ties to Russia shortly after he took office."
The report added, "The accusation -- which Durham couched in vague, technical language in a court filing late Friday -- has been seized upon by Trump and his supporters, who claim the former President was subjected to a smear campaign."
According to Scarborough, who also previously practiced law before becoming a lawmaker and then TV host, he read the filing and said there is nothing in it that he could find.