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LetMyPeopleVote

(145,086 posts)
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 10:28 AM Feb 2022

Durham investigation is in real trouble': Legal expert untangles the RWNJ latest conspiracy theory

This so-called scandal is a joke. There is nothing there.




"The Durham investigation is in real trouble," Wheeler said. "One of the allegations in the indictment is that Sussman was coordinating with the Hillary [Clinton] campaign on these Alfa Bank allegations back in October. Sussman was, like, name the people. In October, Durham said, 'I don't have any people.' In November, he first interviewed a Hillary staffer, he hadn't actually investigated this. We also learned recently that even though Durham and [then-attorney general] Bill Barr flew to Italy to get the phones from Joseph Mifsud, if you remember, is that Italian who was talking to George Papadopoulos. He never walked across DOJ to get the phones from James Baker, who is the single witness to this conversation with Michael Sussman. He didn't find out that DOJ [inspector general] had two of the phones until January. Then, after he revealed that he had these phones that he should have looked for four years ago, he then had to disclose that he had been told about one of the phones back in 2018 but he didn't remember it anymore."

She listed other flaws in Durham's investigation, and she expects Sussman to file a motion to dismiss the indictment against him -- and she believes the special counsel filed his pretrial motion last week to get ahead of that move.

"Probably what last Friday's stunt was about for Durham was an attempt to preempt that, an attempt to pretend that this investigation isn't kind of post-hoc a discovery of things," Wheeler said. "For example, he didn't investigate what the FBI's relationship is with Rodney Joffe before he charged Michael Sussman. He only pulled the communications when Sussman said, 'Why don't you find out what kind of relationship the FBI has with Joffe.' He discovered there were thousands of communications, so Durham is very close to position where Sussman is going to have the opportunity to say, 'You didn't do an investigation before you charged me.'"

"A week before he probably is going to have to do that this stunt comes out and you have all of these people who were witnesses, who fed these conspiracy theories to Durham on the front end," Wheeler concluded, "who then go on Fox News and make false claims about it. That's what the story is, Kash Patel garbage in, Kash Patel garbage out, and Trump threatening to kill people as a result."


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Durham investigation is in real trouble': Legal expert untangles the RWNJ latest conspiracy theory (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 OP
The hatred of HRC and her husband . . .. Lovie777 Feb 2022 #1
Thank you for posting this. Bookmarked. The But Hillary crowd is raising Nixie Feb 2022 #2
Morning Joe shreds 'gobbledygook' Durham filing targeting Hillary Clinton LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #3
"Conservatives clearly are not capable of understanding the issues" Caliman73 Feb 2022 #4

Nixie

(16,950 posts)
2. Thank you for posting this. Bookmarked. The But Hillary crowd is raising
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 12:19 PM
Feb 2022

its' pathetic ugly head again, and this is required reading at this point. Such pathetic people, all of them.



LetMyPeopleVote

(145,086 posts)
3. Morning Joe shreds 'gobbledygook' Durham filing targeting Hillary Clinton
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:45 PM
Feb 2022

Like Joe, I read the pleadings and the last filing by Durham. These pleadings are poorly done and make no sense. The fact that Fox and conservative media is making a big deal out of this non-scandal is really amusing to me. Conservatives clearly are not capable of understanding the issues




According to MSNBC's Joe Scarborough, the latest legal filing by special counsel John Durham accusing the campaign of Hillary Clinton of spying on Donald Trump's White House is nothing more than "gobbledygook" designed to rile up the former president's friends and give Fox News hosts something to meltdown over.


As CNN has reported, Durham "accused a lawyer for the Democrats of sharing with the CIA in 2017 internet data purported to show Russian-made phones being used in the vicinity of the White House complex, as part of a broader effort to raise the intelligence community's suspicions of Donald Trump's ties to Russia shortly after he took office."

The report added, "The accusation -- which Durham couched in vague, technical language in a court filing late Friday -- has been seized upon by Trump and his supporters, who claim the former President was subjected to a smear campaign."

According to Scarborough, who also previously practiced law before becoming a lawmaker and then TV host, he read the filing and said there is nothing in it that he could find.


Caliman73

(11,728 posts)
4. "Conservatives clearly are not capable of understanding the issues"
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 01:28 PM
Feb 2022

They don't care.

The point is not to understand the issues. The point is to put garbage out there to keep their viewers and the Conservative based activated. Propaganda is not about nuanced understanding of policy positions. It is about making you scared and angry at, "those people".

They know that they have nothing, but they also know that they don't really need anything to string their base along. Same reason that they attempted to file in court on the election, but they didn't put their main efforts there. They used the misinformation to fire up the base to try to take over the elections apparatus in the states.

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