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NQAS

(10,749 posts)
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 02:24 PM Feb 2022

Washington Post: Chris Crouch was anti-vaccine. Now his pregnant wife had covid...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/14/unvaccinated-pregnant-mom-covid-strokes-texas/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F360d3bd%2F620bdf8d9d2fda34e792a37e%2F5973112cade4e21a848a42bb%2F9%2F74%2F620bdf8d9d2fda34e792a37e

WP story about an anti-vaxxer whose pregnant wife got Covid, spent months in the hospital, had her baby delivered while she was out of it, and all survived.

Very touching. After all, how can you not be sympathetic to a dying pregnant woman who, along with her newborn, survive against all odds?

the anti-vaxxer is a cop whose attitude was, god gave him an immune system, and that's all he needs. His body, his choice. (Hmm, where have we heard that before?) At one point he questions whether he caused all this distress.

Some thoughts.

Yes, he did cause all this distress. His body, his wife's body, their choices. But when confronted with reality, what's he do? Go home and pray that God sorts things out for him? Gosh, no. He goes to the hospital and hopes that doctors can save his wife and unborn child, using the best medicine and technology available. Immune system? His body, his choice? Fuck no. Bring on the experts. (Oh, so now he loves doctors and their medicine.)

I just learned a new texting acronym: AITA. So, AITA here? If I cared at all about these people, I'd be pissed, and horrified, and angry. But all I can think about is the hypocrisy and the stories they will tell about this miraculous survival. Reminds me of the joke about Breaking Bad. If we had universal health care, Walter White would have gotten the treatment he needed, and he'd still be a science teacher. Here, so much anguish could have been avoided if this guy and his wife got a simple vaccination. A quick stop into the CVS. No drama. But, no. Your body, your choice, and you put everything at risk, then turning the science to make it all better.
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Washington Post: Chris Crouch was anti-vaccine. Now his pregnant wife had covid... (Original Post) NQAS Feb 2022 OP
So god gave him immune system, he shouldn't have gone to the hospital. Claustrum Feb 2022 #1
He's An Idiot! ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #8
God gave me eyeballs NickB79 Feb 2022 #12
For the annoyed: AITA expands to "Am I The Asshole?" MineralMan Feb 2022 #2
Hey. . . NQAS Feb 2022 #9
Not if I see it first. MineralMan Feb 2022 #11
AITA "Am I The Asshole" rurallib Feb 2022 #3
You know, it would be a cruel twist of fate intrepidity Feb 2022 #4
Another victory for Mad_Machine76 Feb 2022 #5
Do you trust God? keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #6
He didn't cause all the distress himself; his wife was the one who chose to reject the vaccine muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #7
True NQAS Feb 2022 #10
Wonder if the child got out of it unscathed. That was the truly innocent party in all of this and Vinca Feb 2022 #13
No it's not you that caused all this distress. It's your Facebook account. Initech Feb 2022 #14

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
1. So god gave him immune system, he shouldn't have gone to the hospital.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 02:30 PM
Feb 2022

If he gets cancer, he shouldn't treat it because god gave him immune system too. Why would he want doctors or medicine when god gave him this immune system? Their picking and choosing at their will is laughingly bad.

ProfessorGAC

(64,875 posts)
8. He's An Idiot!
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:02 PM
Feb 2022

That "immune system" argument is really stupid, because using the "god given" immune system is exactly what vaccines do!
It's not medicine. It highly specifically activates the immune system.
When anybody says this it's clear they don't understand the first thing about this topic.

NickB79

(19,224 posts)
12. God gave me eyeballs
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:47 PM
Feb 2022

Therefore I think I'll start driving without my glasses, even though I'm half blind without them. Reading signs is for chumps.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
9. Hey. . .
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:38 PM
Feb 2022

I had to look it up last week. Now that I'm in the know, others need to look it up this week.

So there!

intrepidity

(7,275 posts)
4. You know, it would be a cruel twist of fate
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 02:38 PM
Feb 2022

if Covid in utero caused autism. I could imagine that happening.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,271 posts)
7. He didn't cause all the distress himself; his wife was the one who chose to reject the vaccine
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 03:57 PM
Feb 2022

His opinions very likely influenced her, but she made the choice. This was primarily about her choice and its consequences.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
10. True
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:44 PM
Feb 2022

I tend to agree with you. His anti-vax commitment probably influenced her. Although, since they are so simpatico, it's likely he found a fellow traveler to connect with, so they were a matched anti-vax pair.

One more thing that struck me. His reference early in the article that he found that women were "playing games" in his early dating efforts after his divorce. WTF does that mean? Were they not fellow RWNJs? Were they "defund the police" sorts? Were they liberals? Were they not Christians, or Christian enough? Or maybe that just found him objectionable for any number of reasons. That apparently means they get the "playing games" descriptor. Sounds vaguely misogyinistic. If you don't hit it off with someone, so be it. That happens. As in, hey, how'd that date go? Okay, but we didn't hit it off. End of. But "playing games"? Again, WTF does that mean? I noticed that the article did not allow comments.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
13. Wonder if the child got out of it unscathed. That was the truly innocent party in all of this and
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:49 PM
Feb 2022

the one who could potentially face a lifetime of medical problems as a result of mom and dad exercising "their freedoms."

Initech

(100,042 posts)
14. No it's not you that caused all this distress. It's your Facebook account.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 04:53 PM
Feb 2022

The Facebook propaganda is killing people and tearing families apart. But are they going to be held responsible about this? No. Will they do anything about it? No. It's truly disheartening what is happening. The bad thing is that there's nothing we can do about it, because that would be policing speech and I'm not touching that one with a 10 foot pole.

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