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Canuckistanian

(42,290 posts)
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:44 AM Oct 2012

Former Republican official: ‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’


http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/10/25/former-republican-official-you-cant-be-a-christian-if-you-dont-own-a-gun/

A former Executive Committee member of San Diego’s Republican Party, who now heads the Christian Anti-Defamation Commission, recently told Texas churchgoers that “you can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun.”

Speaking to the “Deliver Us From Evil” conference at the Upper Room Church in Keller, Texas earlier this week, Dr. Gary Cass explained that America had a “broken moral compass” because it regularly elected “politicians who could justify killing babies made in the image of God” and “justify redefining God’s institution of marriage.”


“You have not just a right not bear arms, you have a duty. How can you protect yourself, your family or your neighbor if you don’t have a gun? If I’m supposed to love my neighbor and I can’t protect him, what good am I?”
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Former Republican official: ‘You can’t be a Christian if you don’t own a gun’ (Original Post) Canuckistanian Oct 2012 OP
There are no words. hrmjustin Oct 2012 #1
Wow. Rick ungar Oct 2012 #2
I guess I am a good Christian... sarisataka Oct 2012 #3
Yes, Jesus said just that. cthulu2016 Oct 2012 #4
Took the words right out of my mouth! Indpndnt Oct 2012 #5
Look at the graphic behind that gutless scumsucking cretin. cliffordu Oct 2012 #6
Well, obviously... susanna Oct 2012 #7
Where'd he get that? The lost Book of Colt? bluesbassman Oct 2012 #8
You missed a passage sarisataka Oct 2012 #12
Amen Brother Maynard! bluesbassman Oct 2012 #16
"Now go and change your armor". n/t A HERETIC I AM Oct 2012 #30
I guess that makes me a Happy Heathen. BVictor1 Oct 2012 #9
Notice? "Former" Archae Oct 2012 #10
WWJD? pokerfan Oct 2012 #11
shouldn't that be WWJS? whistler162 Oct 2012 #29
or... pokerfan Oct 2012 #36
Or maybe WWJC? LibertyLover Oct 2012 #52
ROFLMAO!!! truebrit71 Oct 2012 #39
Please tell me that picture is satire. nt Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #43
I always assumed it was pokerfan Oct 2012 #50
Pervert. aquart Oct 2012 #13
and here I thought it was the other way around gopiscrap Oct 2012 #14
I guess that is one interpretation of the Sermon on the Mount Douglas Carpenter Oct 2012 #15
I'm his worst nightmare Samjm Oct 2012 #17
me too liberal_at_heart Oct 2012 #18
indeed Samjm Oct 2012 #25
Same here, and I have several guns, he better not think all lefties are pacifists. nt. Raine Oct 2012 #22
I'm a big pacifist and i have access to at least 3 guns.... slampoet Oct 2012 #28
Jesus was a bad Christian CreekDog Oct 2012 #19
My wife's pictorial reaction: coalition_unwilling Oct 2012 #20
Even God never used anything beyond a bow and arrow. This guy is out of line. dimbear Oct 2012 #21
When he said "turn the other cheek" quaker bill Oct 2012 #23
I knew there was a reason I don't own guns or do religion madokie Oct 2012 #24
Whatever happened to "He who lives by the sword will die by the sword."? bklyncowgirl Oct 2012 #26
If you can't be a Christian w/o a gun , the Chinese invented being a Christian. slampoet Oct 2012 #27
Turning plowshares into swords. eShirl Oct 2012 #31
If you took away Christians' guns only the sinners would be armed! HereSince1628 Oct 2012 #32
To be that kind of Christian you will need a banjo too. modem77 Oct 2012 #33
As a kid growing up in a methodist church.. lexx21 Oct 2012 #34
"Primitive" is the operative word. hifiguy Oct 2012 #40
Now that's pretty fucked up. nt hack89 Oct 2012 #35
Woah woah woah... LP2K12 Oct 2012 #37
Un-fking believable. hifiguy Oct 2012 #38
Nothing says being a follower of a communal, long haired, pacifistic, religious hippie freak… MrScorpio Oct 2012 #41
That poor Jesus guy is screwed. Tommy_Carcetti Oct 2012 #42
Not real Christians: Aristus Oct 2012 #44
What a fuckwit. And some people say these theocrats aren't dangerous. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #45
From the Book of Armaments: sadbear Oct 2012 #46
why does anyone hand asshats like this a microphone...? mike_c Oct 2012 #47
Er, Jesus didn't own a gun. KamaAina Oct 2012 #48
Gives new meaning to the phrase "praise the lord and pass the ammo". Initech Oct 2012 #49
Bet he's invested in guns and ammo manufactures Ya Basta Oct 2012 #51
I own around 75 guns and I am not a Christian! n/t Meg_Griffin_1 Oct 2012 #53
Did Christ own a gun? Was he a Christian? gollygee Oct 2012 #54
Here is proof that Jesus was in favor of guns Hugabear Oct 2012 #55
Every day I read this stupidity, I'M thankful for being Atheist. sarcasmo Oct 2012 #56
As Jesus said: Blessed are the gun owners, for they shall create a profit for the gun manufacturers. LeftishBrit Oct 2012 #57
This guy is one twisted turd.... lexx21 Oct 2012 #58
 

Rick ungar

(17 posts)
2. Wow.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:48 AM
Oct 2012

you need to be able to kill someone with a gun to be a part of his religion? sounds like the extremist taliban.

sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
3. I guess I am a good Christian...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:50 AM
Oct 2012

if that is all it takes. I know many bad Christians in that case. Come Sunday I'll tell the priest 'Start packin' or git packin"

cliffordu

(30,994 posts)
6. Look at the graphic behind that gutless scumsucking cretin.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 01:57 AM
Oct 2012

Perfect.

I'd say (based on the teachings of Jesus as I understand them) that anyone who owns a gun cannot be a true Christian.

YMMV

susanna

(5,231 posts)
7. Well, obviously...
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:00 AM
Oct 2012

...before there were guns, no one ever protected their neighbor.

I hope I don't need that smilie. Oh, wait - there it is.

bluesbassman

(20,384 posts)
8. Where'd he get that? The lost Book of Colt?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:01 AM
Oct 2012

Here's a few of actual verses from the Old Testament these asshats like to get some of their theology from that apply to Dr. Cass:

Proverbs 18:2 A fool takes no pleasure in understanding, but only in expressing his opinion.

Proverbs 18:6 A fool's lips walk into a fight, and his mouth invites a beating.

Proverbs 18 A fool's mouth is his ruin, and his lips are a snare to his soul.


sarisataka

(22,695 posts)
12. You missed a passage
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:07 AM
Oct 2012
Book of Armaments, Chapter 2, verses 9-21
...And Saint Attila raised the hand grenade up on high, saying, "O LORD, bless this Thy hand grenade that with it Thou mayest blow Thine enemies to tiny bits, in Thy mercy." And the LORD did grin and the people did feast upon the lambs and sloths and carp and anchovies and orangutans and breakfast cereals, and fruit bats and large chu...
"skip a bit, brother"
... And the LORD spake, saying, "First shalt thou take out the Holy Pin, then shalt thou count to three, no more, no less. Three shall be the number thou shalt count, and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither count thou two, excepting that thou then proceed to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the third number, be reached, then lobbest thou thy Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch towards thy foe, who being naughty in My sight, shall snuff it."
 

truebrit71

(20,805 posts)
39. ROFLMAO!!!
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:20 AM
Oct 2012

That graphic has made me laugh so loud my fellow cube-rats were startled..

liberal_at_heart

(12,081 posts)
18. me too
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:19 AM
Oct 2012

You know the militia nuts are counting on the fact that none of us liberals will have guns. And you know they probably believe if our society collapses they will be able to just point a gun in our face and take whatever they want. I think when that day comes the're going to be surprised at how many of us actually do have guns.

Samjm

(320 posts)
25. indeed
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:54 AM
Oct 2012

Best line I've ever heard on this topic: liberals don't want to take your guns, we have our own.

Raine

(31,179 posts)
22. Same here, and I have several guns, he better not think all lefties are pacifists. nt.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:17 AM
Oct 2012

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
28. I'm a big pacifist and i have access to at least 3 guns....
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:52 AM
Oct 2012

a lot of people out there have no problem borrowing a gun.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
20. My wife's pictorial reaction:
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:45 AM
Oct 2012


************

Sign she created for me to carry at my local anti-war vigil.

dimbear

(6,271 posts)
21. Even God never used anything beyond a bow and arrow. This guy is out of line.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 03:57 AM
Oct 2012

Don't know the Holy Writ like he ought to for a Christian.

quaker bill

(8,264 posts)
23. When he said "turn the other cheek"
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:32 AM
Oct 2012

he really meant "shoot the SOB".

When he said "love your enemies" he really meant "double tap your enemies"...

madokie

(51,076 posts)
24. I knew there was a reason I don't own guns or do religion
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 05:36 AM
Oct 2012

But I never thought one was because of the other

slampoet

(5,032 posts)
27. If you can't be a Christian w/o a gun , the Chinese invented being a Christian.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 06:48 AM
Oct 2012

which if you know anything about Buddha...is technically true.

lexx21

(321 posts)
34. As a kid growing up in a methodist church..
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 08:18 AM
Oct 2012

most of the people there seemed to be pretty normal (what we would call "normal" here). I have to ask myself "where in the hell did these people today come from?"

It seems that they crawled out from under some primitive baptist church rock or something.

If you have never heard of a primitive baptist before, look it up. It will likely make you skin crawl.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
40. "Primitive" is the operative word.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:21 AM
Oct 2012

In capital italics. Apemen who lived in caves and bashed each other over the head with mammoth bones were appreciably more civilized than this evolutionary dead end.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
38. Un-fking believable.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:18 AM
Oct 2012
This country has turned in to a vast, open-air lunatic asylum.

And people like this run around loose, unmedicated and unsupervised. And vote. Are there no asylums?

MrScorpio

(73,772 posts)
41. Nothing says being a follower of a communal, long haired, pacifistic, religious hippie freak…
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:27 AM
Oct 2012

Like getting a gun to shoot people.

Aristus

(72,187 posts)
44. Not real Christians:
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:29 AM
Oct 2012

Simon Peter
Andrew
John, the beloved Disciple
James, the brother of John
Nathaniel
Matthew Levi
James the Little
Simon the Zealot (c'mon! You'd think he at least would have had a gun; but no...)
Thomas Didymus
Thaddeus
Phillip
Judas (a rope, yes, but no gun...)
Matthias
Paul
Barnabas

Oh, and

Lazarus
Mary, the mother of Jesus
Mary Magdalene
Mary, the sister of Lazarus
Martha

Not one of them owned a gun, in times far more dangerous than our own...

sadbear

(4,340 posts)
46. From the Book of Armaments:
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 11:35 AM
Oct 2012

"Then did he raise on high the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch, saying, "Bless this, O Lord, that with it thou mayst blow thine enemies to tiny bits, in thy mercy." And the people did rejoice and did feast upon the lambs and toads and tree-sloths and fruit-bats and orangutans and breakfast cereals ... Now did the Lord say, "First thou pullest the Holy Pin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then lobbest thou the Holy Hand Grenade in the direction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

mike_c

(37,051 posts)
47. why does anyone hand asshats like this a microphone...?
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:48 PM
Oct 2012

Sheesh. He has an AUDIENCE. People listen to what he says as though whatever nonsense he bleats has importance. For cryin' out loud, what is wrong with people?

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
48. Er, Jesus didn't own a gun.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 12:49 PM
Oct 2012

Probably wouldn't have even if they had existed back then.

What a !

LeftishBrit

(41,453 posts)
57. As Jesus said: Blessed are the gun owners, for they shall create a profit for the gun manufacturers.
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 02:09 PM
Oct 2012

lexx21

(321 posts)
58. This guy is one twisted turd....
Fri Oct 26, 2012, 04:09 PM
Oct 2012

He reminds me of my fundie former step dad, only more well spoken.

Step dad had colon cancer, had the cancer excised, post op infection, almost dies, becomes a super fundie after that. I am in college at the time (for EE) and he comes out with an armload of my semiconductor data books, which at that time were expensive and hard to get wanting to burn them because they were "satanic". I reminded him that the same components that were in those supposedly "satanic" data books were used in the machines that kept him alive in the hospital and that no he sure as hell could NOT burn my books.

This idiot turd speaking about Harvard in the 1600s being a virtuous school and now it is a bastion of evil. Hmmm... medical research that will probably save him when his head is removed from his ass..... a law school producing attorneys that may champion his causes, just to name a few. He likes to preach about how satanic the school is, but I sure bet he would be first in line if a treatment for an illness that he contracts were developed there.

They preach a good game, or at least what some would think is good, but in the end he is a hypocrite just like all of the other fundies out there.

Sorry for the rant... this guy got me pissed.

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