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iemanja

(53,032 posts)
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:10 PM Feb 2022

"Oh, I accidentally took grandpa's heart medicine"

Per NBC, part of Kamila Valieva's defense at the hearing was that there was an "overlap" with her grandfather's heart medicine.

How many of you have "accidentally" taken a medication that wasn't yours?

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"Oh, I accidentally took grandpa's heart medicine" (Original Post) iemanja Feb 2022 OP
Not once! Rhiannon12866 Feb 2022 #1
I thought I heard earlier.... AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2022 #2
God! They've had several days. They should've been able to come up... brush Feb 2022 #5
Yeah, grampa's backwash is clutching at straws... AZSkiffyGeek Feb 2022 #9
They ought to be able to get a sense of whether that's possible iemanja Feb 2022 #10
Next, TxGuitar Feb 2022 #32
She had three heart medications on the test aeromanKC Feb 2022 #3
I accidentally took Mama's Little Yella Pils Pinback Feb 2022 #4
LOL! madinmaryland Feb 2022 #7
Back in the day multigraincracker Feb 2022 #6
Is that you, Donald Jr? madinmaryland Feb 2022 #8
If they honesty and truly accidentally took grandpa's heart medication, unblock Feb 2022 #11
Three different heart drugs. madaboutharry Feb 2022 #12
In the time of Covid, who shares glasses of water with their grandparents? ...Anybody? vanlassie Feb 2022 #13
Do they live in the same home? iemanja Feb 2022 #14
bs bs bs demtenjeep Feb 2022 #15
I took one of my cats methimazole tablets... WarGamer Feb 2022 #16
Anything happen as a result? iemanja Feb 2022 #17
It's for the kitties thyroid. WarGamer Feb 2022 #18
The best I have done is to use the dog's shampoo Retired Engineer Bob Feb 2022 #28
Haahahahahaa!!! WarGamer Feb 2022 #29
Ban Putin from the next Olympics...no more Authoritarian photo ops n/t AntiFascist Feb 2022 #19
Sounds like a lame excuse. Xolodno Feb 2022 #20
She tested negative at the Beijing Olympics and the European Championships since the December test WarGamer Feb 2022 #21
And that's part of the problem. Xolodno Feb 2022 #25
There are regulations about training iemanja Feb 2022 #26
And Mexico has stronger environmental regulations than the USA. Xolodno Feb 2022 #33
Actually my wife took mine once CanonRay Feb 2022 #22
Oh, dear. iemanja Feb 2022 #31
Yes, she was fine CanonRay Feb 2022 #35
Actually my wife took mine once CanonRay Feb 2022 #23
I read later that she actually just claimed they shared the same water to take meds. Brainfodder Feb 2022 #24
You're probably right iemanja Feb 2022 #27
Exact same thoughts I had then. WEAKSAUCE... but she will face so much scrutiny moving forward! Brainfodder Feb 2022 #30
Never, tho my brother ate all our dad's No-Doz when he was 2 or 3. It was unforgettable... Hekate Feb 2022 #34
It's not that uncommon. Nt USALiberal Feb 2022 #36
This is concerning, doping aside. AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #37

AZSkiffyGeek

(11,023 posts)
2. I thought I heard earlier....
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:14 PM
Feb 2022

That she accidentally got it by drinking from the same glass of water as he did….

brush

(53,778 posts)
5. God! They've had several days. They should've been able to come up...
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:16 PM
Feb 2022

with something better than that.

aeromanKC

(3,322 posts)
3. She had three heart medications on the test
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:14 PM
Feb 2022

CNN reported that three heart medications showed up on the test. Two of them were legal drugs however. But still, don't think Grandpa's medication lie will hold water for multiple medications.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
11. If they honesty and truly accidentally took grandpa's heart medication,
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:30 PM
Feb 2022

they meant to take grandma's.

madaboutharry

(40,211 posts)
12. Three different heart drugs.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:30 PM
Feb 2022

This: “Combination of three heart drugs in teen Russian skater Valieva's system "seem to be aimed at increasing endurance, reducing fatigue and promoting greater efficiency in using oxygen," says United States Anti-Doping Agency Chief Executive Officer Travis Tygart.”

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
16. I took one of my cats methimazole tablets...
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:33 PM
Feb 2022

True story.

On the kitchen counter, same bottle as my Lisinopril (same pharmacy) and similar pill size/shape.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
18. It's for the kitties thyroid.
Tue Feb 15, 2022, 11:38 PM
Feb 2022

Like a lot of old kitties, his thyroid function goes down so the meds keep weight on him.

It's also prescribed to humans for thyroid... so it wouldn't hurt and one dose isn't enough to alter thyroid function... which is good because Lord knows I don't need to gain weight

28. The best I have done is to use the dog's shampoo
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:39 AM
Feb 2022

I should not have left it in the shower. Half squinting, I grabbed the wrong bottle.

Have to admit my hair was nice and shiny, and I did not have to worry about fleas for a while.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
20. Sounds like a lame excuse.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:01 AM
Feb 2022

But I'm willing to bet she was taking it during training and not competition. But got caught this time.

Let's not lose sight that all the other Russian athletes have tested negative for banned substances.

And lets direct the blame where it should be, this test was conducted back in December and it took this long to find out? The IOC is the true fuck up here, had they put in a good system, we wouldn't even be discussing this. After decades they still screw up testing and have punishments that are too harsh on some and too lenient on others. Of course, the only reason China has the winter Olympics is because of the shenanigans the IOC was trying to pull on Norway.

And the drama over all this, yeah, whatever. I'll start believing its authentic once the 1976 US Swim Team gets the medals they deserve.

WarGamer

(12,444 posts)
21. She tested negative at the Beijing Olympics and the European Championships since the December test
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:02 AM
Feb 2022

I agree with you about training doping vs competition doping

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
25. And that's part of the problem.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:15 AM
Feb 2022

Really aren't any regulations while training. If this test came up earlier they would have either suspended here outright or do regular tests to make sure it was out of her system. Again, the IOC screwed up here, they always react rather than plan ahead.

Xolodno

(6,395 posts)
33. And Mexico has stronger environmental regulations than the USA.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:52 AM
Feb 2022

But enforcement, that's a whole different subject. The same thing applies here.

No one is policing effectively during the training periods...if at all. It's an open secret and the IOC turns a blind eye.

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
24. I read later that she actually just claimed they shared the same water to take meds.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:12 AM
Feb 2022

Which is probably worse somehow?

iemanja

(53,032 posts)
27. You're probably right
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:35 AM
Feb 2022

NBC didn't share the details, so I drew my own conclusion. I find the backwash excuse improbable. How much could that even leave in her system?

Brainfodder

(6,423 posts)
30. Exact same thoughts I had then. WEAKSAUCE... but she will face so much scrutiny moving forward!
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 12:42 AM
Feb 2022

All that training and flush it? HELL NO, never would have done that!

Next excuse.... I HAVE NO IDEA? Classic.



Hekate

(90,683 posts)
34. Never, tho my brother ate all our dad's No-Doz when he was 2 or 3. It was unforgettable...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 01:04 AM
Feb 2022

… since my parents were too broke to go to the ER, they called in a neighbor who was a nurse and she prescribed vomiting.

As for everything to do with the Russian team and their coach — it really should be a cold day in Hell before they come back. They wreck young people’s lives without a thought, and it is so reminiscent of East Germany in the bad old days.

AngryOldDem

(14,061 posts)
37. This is concerning, doping aside.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 11:51 AM
Feb 2022
https://sports.yahoo.com/kamila-valieva-took-2-other-heart-medications-raising-serious-questions-about-grandfather-excuse-111948368.html

Valieva’s mother testified at the initial hearing and said that Kamila took hypoxen to treat “heart variations,” according to the WADA document. But Kamila had never previously declared use of TMZ, which has been banned since 2014.



I read this to mean she was having heart issues. Then why the hell was she even competing? Jesus — Russia treats their athletes no better than cattle.

If this is another lie…. I know she is a minor, but this continued backpedaling is really trying my patience and compassion. Everyone should have kept their damn mouths SHUT after Monday. They won. They got the decision they wanted.

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