9-year-old girl shot by robbery victim dies, Houston police say

[TexLaProgressive]

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No details on whether the “robbery victim” was a legal gun owner, but with the extremely lax gun laws in Texas, most anyone is.

Very sad, say her name, Arlene Alvarez.

A man who was robbed at gunpoint at a bank ATM drive-thru on Monday evening pulled his own gun and fired shots at the robber, but instead struck a 9-year-old girl who was in the backseat of her family’s vehicle, authorities said. The girl died Tuesday evening.

The child, identified by relatives as Arlene Alvarez, was shot around 9:45 p.m. Monday as her father drove her and her siblings by a Chase bank on Winkler Drive, near the 2900 block of Woodridge Drive in southeast Houston.

https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/crime/article/Girl-shot-during-robbery-aftermath-at-southeast-16919925.php

[TreasonousBastard]

1. Another "Good guy with a gun."

[sanatanadharma]

7. Doing exactly what some say is the appropriate 'American way of self-sufficient-defence

They are wrong and hell-bound.

[Scrivener7]

2. Nothing more dangerous than a "good guy with a gun." From the

report of what happened, the guy was just itching to use that gun. The robbery was over, he and his date were in no bodily danger, and he decided to get out of his car and shoot out a nearby truck.

The man got out of his car and shot at the robber as well as a pick-up he believed he was escaping with.

However, the truck belonged to the Alvarez family who was going out for pizza for Valentines Day, KTRK reported.
https://news.yahoo.com/9-old-houston-girl-dies-024747523.html

He should be charged with her murder.


(Had to use another source bc the link was paywalled.)

[TexLaProgressive]

10. Sorry about the paywall. I forget about the Houston Chronicle.

[Scrivener7]

16. No problem.

[Emile]

3. If everybody had a gun, nobody would get shot!

Sarcasm!

[cinematicdiversions]

4. Hopefully they charge the Robber with the murder. NT

[Scrivener7]

5. No. The robber was running away by then. There was no danger to the shooter.

He shot at the robber AND at a nearby pickup that he THOUGHT had something to do with the robbery but didn't. The little girl was in the truck with her family. They were going out for pizza for Valentines Day.

The guy who was shooting his gun at anything that moved should be charged with the murder.

[cinematicdiversions]

9. the person committing the crime is responsible for the subsequent murder as a result of that crime.

That is pretty common law through out the US.

[Crunchy Frog]

19. Shooting at bystanders is a crime. Shooter is guilty.

I haven't noticed you advocating for murder charges against the 1/6 insurrectionists for the death of Ashli Babbitt.

Please let me know if I'm incorrect.

[cinematicdiversions]

21. I think some of the 1/6 insurrectionists should be hung like the constitution allows,

Honestly, I am appauled by some of the sentences.

[JI7]

23. Nope , Not if the shooter is not in danger at the time and just shooting anywhere

[Captain Stern]

28. I don't think that's how it works.

The robber should be charged with what it appears he did...attempted robbery.

It appears that the victim of the attempted robbery killed someone that was entirely unrelated to the robbery incident. So, he should be charged for that.

[Ferrets are Cool]

11. Hopefully, they charge the SHOOTER with murder.

Probably not, but I can wish.

[Ace Rothstein]

12. I'd imagine at least a manslaughter charge.

[Ferrets are Cool]

13. Yeah, I suspect that also.

[Ilsa]

6. This story needs national TV exposure. nt

[sanatanadharma]

8. Gun posession breeds being possed by the gun

Last edited Wed Feb 16, 2022, 10:23 AM - Edit history (1)

Gun possession breads being possessed by the gun.
Itchy trigger finger, hammer-nail, renewed man-card, never fails.

edit: breads are good, breeds are good, breeding breads is basically balderdash

[Ferrets are Cool]

14. I apologize ahead of time

but, it's breeds.

[sanatanadharma]

15. Yes, thank you

[SYFROYH]

17. Sounds like involunary manslaught would be appropriate.

If only the police would be held to the same standard consistently.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

18. A good guy with a gun killed a bystander

We have too many guns

[whistler162]

27. you forgot ,again part

[maxsolomon]

20. does this still count as a successful Defensive Gun Use?

almost 2 million DGUs a year, if you don't look at the facts!

https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/hicrc/firearms-research/gun-threats-and-self-defense-gun-use-2/

[Kaleva]

22. The shooter, Tony D Earls, has been charged.

I'm on my phone and I don't know how to post links with it.

[BeerBarrelPolka]

25. .

https://dfw.cbslocal.com/2022/02/15/texas-man-arrested-charged-for-valentines-day-shooting-of-9-year-old-girl-police-say/|

Earls is charged with aggravated assault – serious bodily injury in the 263rd State District Court.

[Kaleva]

26. Thanks!

[raccoon]

24. If only Arlene had had a gun to defend herself with!

I hope her family sues the daylights out of that MF.

Doesn’t always end up like it does in the movies, does it Mr. Earls?

[Omaha Steve]

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