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Jurors Who Rejected Sarah Palin's Defamation Suit Received Alerts Telling Them the Judge Dismissed (Original Post) Shrek Feb 2022 OP
What was that judge thinking? Entirely predictable Raven123 Feb 2022 #1
Grounds for a mistrial gratuitous Feb 2022 #2
No, the dismissal stands Effete Snob Feb 2022 #10
That is certainly messy. Chainfire Feb 2022 #3
Done deal. Trial is trashed. WarGamer Feb 2022 #4
Why did they have their phones in the jury room? madaboutharry Feb 2022 #5
That is an excellent point PatSeg Feb 2022 #11
Bingo inthewind21 Feb 2022 #17
They should re-try this. I want her to lose with no excuses. Takket Feb 2022 #6
They will inthewind21 Feb 2022 #20
My tinfoil beanie is itching, did the judge do this on purpose...something smells. Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #7
I'm confused by the dual decisions unblock Feb 2022 #8
If I recall... NavyDem Feb 2022 #12
Ok, then why not immediately stop the deliberations? unblock Feb 2022 #13
I don't know. NavyDem Feb 2022 #15
Because he knew inthewind21 Feb 2022 #18
Ah ok. "Belts and suspenders" unblock Feb 2022 #19
Had not yet dismissed it zipplewrath Feb 2022 #16
Doesn't matter Effete Snob Feb 2022 #9
Right that's what I don't get. If it's dismissed as a matter of law, the jury process doesn't matter unblock Feb 2022 #14
Because inthewind21 Feb 2022 #21
 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
10. No, the dismissal stands
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:10 PM
Feb 2022

Palin can appeal the dismissal, but if she doesn’t win that appeal, then this is a nothing.

madaboutharry

(40,208 posts)
5. Why did they have their phones in the jury room?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:05 PM
Feb 2022

That seems to be highly irregular. It would be like delivering the newspaper to them every day. Seems like this alone could have been grounds for a mistrial.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
17. Bingo
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:44 PM
Feb 2022

You are NOT supposed to have them. When I was a juror, the bailiff collected everyone's phones as soon as we got there every morning and would give them all back when we went home for the day.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
20. They will
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:56 PM
Feb 2022

IN the appeals court. The judge knew this. Palin and her attorneys have been quite vocal about it. They expected to loose. She doesn't meet the high bar and everyone knows it. Palin is not what is at hand here, she's the tool. The ultimate goal is to get this before the supreme court so the new radical right majority can overturn the 1964 NYT v. Sullivan.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
8. I'm confused by the dual decisions
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
Feb 2022

If the judge dismissed the case as a matter of law, why didn't that end it? Why did it even go to a jury at all?

unblock

(52,196 posts)
13. Ok, then why not immediately stop the deliberations?
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:15 PM
Feb 2022

Doesn't the judge's decision render any jury verdict moot?

NavyDem

(525 posts)
15. I don't know.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:19 PM
Feb 2022

I think that the without the jurors being sequestered, this was a sure thing to get appealed, or granted a mistrial. My knowledge of law is pretty limited though.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
18. Because he knew
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:46 PM
Feb 2022

Palin was going to appeal, so a dismissal AND a nope from the jury now goes to the appeals court. This is not new. It happens.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
16. Had not yet dismissed it
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:23 PM
Feb 2022

The judge told the lawyers that if they came back with a verdict favorable to Palin, he'd have to dismiss the case for failure to orove malice. He apparently preferred to let the jury have a chance. Probably it would make the case less a target of an appeal.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
9. Doesn't matter
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:08 PM
Feb 2022

Palin can appeal the dismissal ruling, but since the judge dismissed the case, it doesn’t matter what the jury did.

unblock

(52,196 posts)
14. Right that's what I don't get. If it's dismissed as a matter of law, the jury process doesn't matter
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 03:17 PM
Feb 2022

I don't get why they even had them finish deliberating.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
21. Because
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:11 PM
Feb 2022

When it goes to the appeals court they have a 2fer. A dismissal from the judge AND a nope from the Jury.

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