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kentuck

(111,079 posts)
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:24 PM Feb 2022

Republicans Cannot Be Trusted to Defend Our Democracy or Our Constitution

In my opinion, this is the most important message for Americans to receive before the next election.

There are many in the cult that will not hear it because they do not see any danger to our democracy.

But, in my opinion, there are many Republicans that understand that Trump and the present Republican establishment are a threat to our country.

By simply pointing out that the Republicans cannot be trusted with control of our government, most Americans understand that it carries a seed of truth.

It has to be that subtle, in my opinion, or they block out everything that is said in this partisan environment.

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Republicans Cannot Be Trusted to Defend Our Democracy or Our Constitution (Original Post) kentuck Feb 2022 OP
And it has the advantage of being the truth. Dan Feb 2022 #1
+1000 Peacetrain Feb 2022 #2
Well said!!! It's quite a switch from when the GOP declared themselves the only defenders of RKP5637 Feb 2022 #3
There is no need to mention Trump. kentuck Feb 2022 #4
We know them by their own words... BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #5
THis would be useful if MadameButterfly Feb 2022 #6
But you are not saying there is no use in voting? kentuck Feb 2022 #7
of course we should vote MadameButterfly Feb 2022 #16
YES and we should have that message Bettie Feb 2022 #8
You are right, Bettie. kentuck Feb 2022 #9
But, we also need to hammer Bettie Feb 2022 #12
Absolutely! kentuck Feb 2022 #13
Yes, agreed Bettie Feb 2022 #14
Yes. kentuck Feb 2022 #15
+1, I read a thread yesterday that dems were up 8 or something in generic ballot. We should crush uponit7771 Feb 2022 #19
Weirdly, even though I am a "doom and gloomer" normally Bettie Feb 2022 #20
+1, I've been tracking generics since Jan and they say what you're saying; America is like naw ... uponit7771 Feb 2022 #21
And I think I've seen you at Bettie Feb 2022 #22
+1, you have to tell avg person something new 7 time before they get it once uponit7771 Feb 2022 #18
Does repetition work? kentuck Feb 2022 #23
yes, message flooding works its what Sinema is doing now uponit7771 Feb 2022 #25
Indeed! nt Wounded Bear Feb 2022 #10
Ask Liz Cheney if they can be trusted Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #11
kick one time kentuck Feb 2022 #17
They don't want Democracy. nt Hotler Feb 2022 #24

RKP5637

(67,104 posts)
3. Well said!!! It's quite a switch from when the GOP declared themselves the only defenders of
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:47 PM
Feb 2022

democracy, the real Americans and the only ones that could be trusted to maintain the country. Now, so many have made a 180 degree switch.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
4. There is no need to mention Trump.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:51 PM
Feb 2022

People understand what happened.

But they will not listen to the truth if they feel they are beaten over the head with it.

Republicans have proven they cannot protect or defend our democracy. That is all people need to know.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
5. We know them by their own words...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:59 PM
Feb 2022

Just listen to what elected Republican officials say on a daily basis. They invite violence, chaos, and foreign intervention in our domestic affairs. Listen to them advocate a small group of Republican representatives replacing the simple and elegant idea of one person one vote. Listen to them promote corporate monopolies and cartels over local small businesses.

The party of Lincoln has been drowned in a bathtub by 50 Republican Senators and about 200 GQP House members. They have replaced it with a violent cult that worships a one term president and promotes government at the point of a gun.

MadameButterfly

(1,052 posts)
6. THis would be useful if
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:00 PM
Feb 2022

we were going to have any more free and fair elections. Without the voting rights bills there will be a Republican majority one way or anotherr

MadameButterfly

(1,052 posts)
16. of course we should vote
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:17 PM
Feb 2022

but we also need to have our eyes open about what is going on. We can't stop fighting for voting rights. Find some pieces of it Republicans can't say no to. Random audits, for example--they of all people should be for that. Maybe limit criteria by which a legislature can overturn an election.

This is a case where going for everything is making us get nothing. Not having mail in ballots for all those years did't end democracy. Voter suppression is bad but we've always had it, and really determined person can overcome it.

However, we haven't had electronic vote fraud (that we know) or state houses overturning results before. These will stymie all our efforts, and effectively end democracy, whoever shows up to vote.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
8. YES and we should have that message
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:11 PM
Feb 2022

out constantly. Say it enough that it sinks into people's minds, so it just lives there.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
9. You are right, Bettie.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:14 PM
Feb 2022

It needs to be repetitive.

It will be much more effective than just attacking the other side with partisan attacks.

It is a simple statement that people can hear and weigh without being instantly offended.

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
12. But, we also need to hammer
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:22 PM
Feb 2022

other messages.

For example, my current rep is taking credit for the Infrastructure bill, but she spoke against and voted against it. Her opponent should make the fact that she's a liar an issue. Make sure everyone knows she lies about things. Attack her credibility.

She's also said things in favor of the insurrectionists. Make a point of her lack of care for our nation.

They always say "X Democrat is TOO RADICAL for insert state name", well, we need to coopt that message because many of them are FAR too radical for the United States.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
13. Absolutely!
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:26 PM
Feb 2022

But the basic message must be that they have shown that they cannot be trusted with our democracy or our Constitution.

Individuals should be called out on their hypocrisy , for sure.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. +1, I read a thread yesterday that dems were up 8 or something in generic ballot. We should crush
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 10:20 AM
Feb 2022

... the GQP into dust with this simple message if those generic ballot polls are confirmed.

With that message I think we gain seats in Nov, maybe should be an OP

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
20. Weirdly, even though I am a "doom and gloomer" normally
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:02 PM
Feb 2022

I don't think we're going to lose in November.

I think they are overplaying their hands, there are sane people who look at the people who are running (and make no mistake, Republican primaries are likely to put some truly crazed people into the mix) and say "No, not that...".

At least I hope so.

And I'm not normally optimistic, but this time, I don't know why, but I feel like it will be OK...maybe it's because the people who yell about doom and gloom aren't all that confident?

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
21. +1, I've been tracking generics since Jan and they say what you're saying; America is like naw ...
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 12:14 PM
Feb 2022

... , hell naw, not them.

We'll be frustrated at most with Biden but we wont be on the wrong track

Bettie

(16,095 posts)
22. And I think I've seen you at
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 01:21 PM
Feb 2022

the "doom and gloom" meetings a time or two in the past! LOL.

And yes, we will be frustrated (because who isn't sometimes) but he's not trying to kill us all.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
11. Ask Liz Cheney if they can be trusted
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:21 PM
Feb 2022

Or Adam Kinzinger. They would echo your statements, knowing full well that their party has been infiltrated and hijacked by Putin in Republicans' clothing. The cult plays right into his hands.

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