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Today's 30-year mortgage rate cracked 4% (Original Post) SonofBen Feb 2022 OP
For perspective, my first mortgage was 7%. We have had historically low Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #1
my first was 6.5%... huge difference on payments to rate in the 3s. Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #21
My last mortgage was 2.875. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #23
Actually, a higher interest rate would do a lot to bring the real estate market back into balance. PSPS Feb 2022 #2
I think that will depend on the area. In the SF bay area, I don't think it will affect prices too JohnSJ Feb 2022 #5
I remember when 9.75% was considered a good rate. JohnSJ Feb 2022 #3
My first mortgage rate was 11.75 percent. bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #4
Exactly. You hit right when Paul Volker was there JohnSJ Feb 2022 #7
Close but early Greenspan. bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #16
Interesting, thanks. My first mortgage was with Crocker Bank in California, no longer around, and JohnSJ Feb 2022 #30
Glad I refinanced last year to 2.75%! beaglelover Feb 2022 #6
I took out a mortgage last summer at 2.5% fixed for 15 years. madinmaryland Feb 2022 #17
Congrats!! beaglelover Feb 2022 #19
nice! Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #22
4% is still on the low side, historically True Dough Feb 2022 #8
Won't stop the refi commercials though Pas-de-Calais Feb 2022 #9
Here's a long-term mortgage rate chart True Dough Feb 2022 #10
Fawk, I just started looking. CentralMass Feb 2022 #11
I have to refi and put it off in Dec mahina Feb 2022 #13
Hopefully it will help stop corporations from buying up all available homes PortTack Feb 2022 #12
Exact opposite. former9thward Feb 2022 #28
Still better than most of my lifetime... JT45242 Feb 2022 #14
For perspective-- 1971 when the annual average was 7% Torchlight Feb 2022 #15
Still below the inflation rate. roamer65 Feb 2022 #18
I'm hoping higher mortgage rates will slow down the tear-down rebuilding Liberal In Texas Feb 2022 #20
Up and down and up they go mnhtnbb Feb 2022 #24
My bank savings rate is close to Zero, & has been since mortgage rates went to 1%. ...... Hekate Feb 2022 #25
This is how you fight inflation... WarGamer Feb 2022 #26
When interest rates go up BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #27
Our first mortgage was 6.5%. Our current mortgage is 2.625%.. helpisontheway Feb 2022 #29

Scrivener7

(58,924 posts)
1. For perspective, my first mortgage was 7%. We have had historically low
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:21 PM
Feb 2022

rates for a long time. They seem normal to us, but they're not.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
5. I think that will depend on the area. In the SF bay area, I don't think it will affect prices too
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:29 PM
Feb 2022

much, but other places in the country, absolutely.

Also, it might curb the dealers asking more than MSRP on cars, and that would also be a good thing

bottomofthehill

(9,356 posts)
4. My first mortgage rate was 11.75 percent.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:28 PM
Feb 2022

4 looks like a bargain. There is a cost to borrowing money. Hopefully we never see those rates again. Back then you could not only write off your 12% mortgage, you could write off your 25% credit card interest rate.

bottomofthehill

(9,356 posts)
16. Close but early Greenspan.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:01 PM
Feb 2022

I could not afford much of a house, so my mortgage was small and there was a slight bump I interest rate as mine was considered a nuisance mortgage below $50,000 dollars.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
30. Interesting, thanks. My first mortgage was with Crocker Bank in California, no longer around, and
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 09:08 PM
Feb 2022

was 9.75%

Of coursing compared to now hosing prices were considerably less than. Now, especially in the Bay Area it is through the roof



True Dough

(26,142 posts)
8. 4% is still on the low side, historically
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:31 PM
Feb 2022

If I recall correctly, around 6% is the mean. I stand to be corrected on that, however.

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
12. Hopefully it will help stop corporations from buying up all available homes
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:40 PM
Feb 2022

It would be even better if it went higher. The greedy corporations need to be pushed out of the market

former9thward

(33,424 posts)
28. Exact opposite.
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:29 PM
Feb 2022

Corporations are not getting mortgages. They pay cash for houses. It is the average person that needs a mortgage to get a house.

JT45242

(3,933 posts)
14. Still better than most of my lifetime...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:44 PM
Feb 2022

When I bought my current home about 9 years ago I was thrilled at 3.75% and thought I would never refi. I did a little over a year ago at 2.75% and told the loan officer that I couldn't believe that I was actually refinancing a loan with an interest rate under 4% to begin with.

My first home loan was at 7% around 2000 -- which was real close to the historic average.

It may reign in some crazy price increases where there is inventory -- but in many places it will just mean that more people rent longer.

Until zoning boards and local governments require new construction to include some affordable units in addition to the high profit McManshions -- the houseing crunch will be very tough for young adults.

Torchlight

(6,529 posts)
15. For perspective-- 1971 when the annual average was 7%
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 04:48 PM
Feb 2022

and they moved up steadily until they were at 9.19% in 1974. They briefly dipped down into the mid- to high-8% range before climbing to 11% in 1979. This was during a period of high inflation that hit its peak early in the next decade.

Interest rates reached their highest point in modern history in 1981 when the annual average was 16.6%

Not until 1998 (or 99?) did the rates dip back down below 7%. Housing crash of 2008 forced rates to dip again. Covid also caused rates to drop recently (.5 to 1.5% depending on source cited).

Perspective and context are necessary, if not convenient beasts of burden.

Liberal In Texas

(16,102 posts)
20. I'm hoping higher mortgage rates will slow down the tear-down rebuilding
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 05:37 PM
Feb 2022

going on in my small house neighborhood. One house torn down on a double lot was subdivided into 2 and the builder/realtor is selling them for $1.2 million each. This is ridiculous in this neighborhood. In 2001 I paid around $125K for our house and supposedly we're up to $300K now.

mnhtnbb

(33,223 posts)
24. Up and down and up they go
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 07:23 PM
Feb 2022

I paid 16.5% on the mortgage for my townhouse in Woodland Hills, CA in the early '80's.

Last year I bought a new house in Durham, NC with a 15 year mortgage at 2.3%. This is my last house.

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
25. My bank savings rate is close to Zero, & has been since mortgage rates went to 1%. ......
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:15 PM
Feb 2022

That’s the other end of the see-saw, just so you know.

For more historical perspective, my first mortgage was a variable rate 11% to 16%. My sister’s first was 18%. Thank whatever gods you have that yours is not.

For comparison, our parents bought a 2BR starter home in 1948 or ‘49 with an interest rate of about 5%, or maybe it was 4% and a bit.

In any case, contemplating the disparity just about made Sis and me sick, but we and our husbands each had a job and each put our backs into paying our respective debt down.

1% mortgage rate is an anomaly of historic proportions. It absolutely means the savings we worked so hard for might as well be stored in an old sock, for all the near-Zero interest it’s earning.

All I can say is I’m shocked if you're shocked at a 4.2% mortgage rate.



WarGamer

(18,341 posts)
26. This is how you fight inflation...
Wed Feb 16, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

It's a double edged sword.

Hot economy = Inflation...

Tepid economy = price competition

Just wait until the Housing Bubble pops a la 2008

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