"The hatred for Dems in rural U.S. 'is just unbelievable'"

[bif]

https://www.yahoo.com/news/brand-toxic-dems-fear-extinction-052403735.html

Interesting read.

[gratuitous]

1. Bring back coverage denials for pre-existing conditions!

The air's too breathable and the water's too clean! Turn those DemocRATs out of office!

[bif]

3. How they continue to vote against their best interest is amazing.

Once again, there's just no fixing stupid, is there?

[SoonerPride]

2. Brainwashing works.

The Fox News viewers have been programmed to hate democrats.

[FoxNewsSucks]

11. Anti-democratic radio saturates rural areas

The blatant hatred coming from "news" stations that air Hannity etc are just the tip of the iceberg. When I travel in the rural plains states, even the music stations have news provided by Fox , ABC and others who are just as biased, but presented in a neutral-sounding way.

The influence is overwhelming.

[awesomerwb1]

23. Not just rural areas

A couple years ago I was driving from SF to LA and out of curiosity I turned on AM radio. It was saturated with hate wing radio stations. I couldn't believe it.

They are everywhere and these radio hosts are nuts.

[Mariana]

41. It's being preached in many of the Christian churches, too. nt.

[cilla4progress]

4. Right

Fox is on rural cable. Not MSNBC.

[Caliman73]

13. And radio. You cannot forget radio.

In rural areas, the FM signal is not very strong so AM radio is pretty much all you have. AM radio has been absolutely dominated by Conservative messaging, whether "news" or religion stations. If you listen to that day in and day out, it will start to sound true.

[cilla4progress]

19. Absolutely.

Used to be Paul Harvey. Harmless. Morphed into Limpalls then off it went.

[Caliman73]

26. I remember Paul Harvey...

Used to listen on KGO in the SF Bay area.

You could argue with Harvey, and he might even listen. You can't argue with Limbaugh and his wannabe clones. You can crush their arguments fairly easily, but you never get the chance because they cut you off and hurl invectives.

[uponit7771]

42. +1

[ck4829]

5. If they want to have their two minutes hate against us, we should give them something to cry about

"You all seem to think helping people is 'socialism', maybe that should include your farm subsidies"

"If you hate blue states, then maybe it's time to cut off blue state money coming your way"

[bif]

8. Exactly! That loud sucking sound...

Is the red states sucking money from the blue ones! Somehow, they never complain about that.

[2naSalit]

30. +1

[NoMoreRepugs]

6. HateRadio and FauxSnooze are at the very center of the problem.

[GoodRaisin]

7. The ignorance and stupidity that fuels this hatred is what is unbelievable. nt

[Hortensis]

12. As Aristus says. Believe it. The RW has more really good haters

but no lock on everything else needed to support it.

I remember when they called us "bleeding hearts" in the '70s and then the tone turned meaner in the '80s. By the '90s we were wondering in dismay and confusion why they hated us. We still haven't caught up to them in ability to hate, but as a whole we're definitely also not the same "left" we once were. Large numbers have also been radicalized.

[I_UndergroundPanther]

15. My hatred of republicans

Have caught up.

[empedocles]

16. The hate has always been there, in the non urban South. Some hate things you either

endorsed . . . or didn't talk about it.

[Hortensis]

22. I believe it's been cultivated and grown in people who once

didn't feel it as they do now. Many have become close to the worst, most hate-ful versions of themselves, others just more that way. And we do see it here. The more radical, intolerant, hostile, the less liberal.

BUT, at least half of all of us are mostly unaffected, or little affected.

Still rational. Still decent, still capable voters. Always believing in the right of all men to life, liberty and pursuit of happiness.

[empedocles]

32. I think a factor in that 'hostile' growth is the individuals are much less

isolated then they were decades back.

Now through 'reply all', fund-raising groups, political organizing, news media competition for 'conflict', and trump national leadership - these haters more readily support, and even meet with one another, much more easily.

[Aristus]

9. That hatred is returned.

Every time I have to drive through redneck Eastern Washington, my ocular muscles ache like hell from rolling my eyes at all the "TRUMP! MAGA!" signs...

[LizBeth]

21. I am thinking, living in a blue oasis, that is absolutely true.

Not a lot of love for the misogynist, racist rw.

[cilla4progress]

24. My neighborhood, Aristus...!

Maybe you've seen my posts describing a new neighbor who, within a month of moving in, erected Fuck Biden and Trump-deSantis banners.

At our first neighborhood event this Spring I will be donning my new "Hate has No Home Here" t-shirt purchased specifically for the occasion from the local pet store (has cute paw prints on it) and staring a hole through her head behind my shades!!

[Aristus]

28. You show 'em, cilla!

[JustAnotherGen]

10. On the one hand

The language of the far left has been used as a battering ram . . .

While only a handful of Democrats in Congress support stripping such money from police departments, for example, conservative media popular in rural communities — particularly Fox News — amplifies such positions.

“We’re letting Republicans use the language of the far left to define the Democratic Party, and we can’t do that,” Heitkamp said. “The trend lines in rural America are very, very bad. ... Now, the brand is so toxic that people who are Democrats, the ones left, aren’t fighting for the party.”

To help win back rural voters, the Democratic National Committee has tapped Kylie Oversen, a former North Dakota state legislator, to work with rural organizers and state party rural caucuses as the chair of the national committee's rural council. The DNC also says it's sharing resources with people on the ground in rural areas to help improve training, recruiting and organizing.

On the other hand - they still get all of the money (massive transfer of wealth from urban areas to rural areas) and they aren't 'like' the rising dominant culture.

This is why I'm not the least bit upset about gerrymandering in blue states. We have to keep them isolated. We canNOT let them bully us into their way of life.

[maxsolomon]

14. The Rural US is dying from drug addiction.

They need to look in the fucking mirror.

[awesomerwb1]

27. They blame immigrants for it

"The illegals invasion" brings the drugs into the country.

[Johnny2X2X]

31. They think border security is drug prevention

They have images in their heads of poor people crossing the border carrying backpacks of drugs. The Cartels have a level of sophistication that they cannot comprehend, they're not trusting some rural mother and child to carry their cargo on foot across the border. That stuff is coming in trucks, trains, airplanes, and even submarines. The only people using human drug mules are small timers.

The large cartels are like any other big corporation, they have experts in every aspect, they are figuring in seizures to their business. They have technology experts on staff, they have the best accountants and lawyers working for them. These are highly modern businesses.

[ChicagoRonin]

17. They'd rather die clinging to the familiar . . .

. . . than live in a world with anything unfamiliar.

One of my friends is a bit beside himself because his daughter has married into an ultra-conservative, right-wing Christian family in the far West Chicago suburbs (practically country). He told me she actually told him that she is "sick of trying to co-exist."

[LakeArenal]

18. Fear hate violence fake Patriotism fake Religion

You aren’t the boss of me.

Republican voters.

[Cosmocat]

20. We can't beat it, we have to join it

We have LONG passed the point where running ON things primarily wins elections.

The Rs and conservative media FRAME US.

As most note here there is nearly a half century of marinating their brains in right wing radio/tv hatred.

They are walking dead lost, and we can't beat it unless we hit their level of negatively framing them.

AND, the most frustrating part of Ds reluctance to do so is that they spin and lie to frame us, whlie all we have to do is say the simple god darns truth.

We are not socialists who hate america that they scream about.

They ARE fucking facscists who hate america.

How GD hard is it for Dems to uniformly state those two simple facts?

[Blaukraut]

25. The only way to fix that is also impossible

Regulating talk radio and television. It could be as simple as a law that doesn’t allow lies in any programming. Even opinion shows must be fact based. For example: there cannot be an entire afternoon or evening opinion show based on a child trafficking pizza parlor.

[Caliman73]

29. That would be good but as you said, impossible.

You then get into, "Who gets to determine what the 'facts' are?" and other questions.

People were discussing how the Palin case against the Times is just a catalyst for making it easier to sue for defamation. That Thomas and Gorsuch want to revisit Press protections or something like that.

They better be careful what they wish for. Palin sued for a story that had some inaccuracies that she characterized as libel. I would imagine, that like Dominion/Smartmatic, there are A LOT of people who would love to sue Fox and other right wing outlets out of existence. Currently you have the "Tucker Carlson is a liar and an idiot" defense, but if they lower that threshold for right wingers to harass mainstream outlets, I could see Hillary Clinton making some major bank for all the lies they continue to tell about her.

[TheFarseer]

33. I've seen this up close

Democrats are a complete joke in Nebraska’s 3rd district which comprises about 3/4 of the state’s land area. They believe in a caricature of Democrats and it is never challenged by anyone. They believe we want to make shoplifting etc legal, we want to take their land and give it to black people/ Native Americans/ buffalo. We want to ban guns, fertilizer, trucks, bibles, herbicides, pesticides, lawn mowers -you name it. We want to put them in concentration camps and re-educate them to love gays/be gay. I could go on and on but you get the idea. Anything someone throws out there is readily believed.

[uponit7771]

40. +1, "nd it is never challenged by anyone."

[progressoid]

34. k/r

[Runningdawg]

35. Their ignorance and hate is not new.

After their little exorcism didn't work, the school/church/town tried to expel me for "being a witch" a few days before HS graduation. That was 1978. Having recently turned 18 and threatening legal action got me through those final days and then I GTFO. The grandchildren of the kids I grew up with are teaching Sunday school, which now includes weapons training.

[Xoan]

36. Thank Reagan.

[bif]

37. Ah, yes. Good ol' Uncle Ronnie!

He pretty much started take from the poor and give to the rich.

[heckles65]

38. What can I say?

Those urban areas finance your hospitals, your health care, your roads. Your kids go into the military - as a lot of them do, as they don't have the tools for anything else? The urban areas see to it they are paid more than the pittance military people were paid "when America was Great" a 100 years ago. The urban areas were concerned about your drug addiction rate when the Republican establishment and their Congresscritters frankly didn't give a damn.

I mean, really, what else do you want??

[roamer65]

39. Meth infested hinterland deplorables.

I could care less what they think.

Let’s go, Darwin!

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