Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

question everything

(47,476 posts)
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:03 PM Feb 2022

I don't understan this. If the Jan 6 calls log is in the National Archives, how can Whiny object to

releasing them?

Even if classified, as we have seen, a president can classify and declassify anything.

Has any other former president ever objected to releasing of his papers?

During Watergate Nixon tried to shield his communications but this was while still in office.


6 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
I don't understan this. If the Jan 6 calls log is in the National Archives, how can Whiny object to (Original Post) question everything Feb 2022 OP
The call logs are not Classified. bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #1
Thank you. Interesting. The point of classified material came, of course with the findings question everything Feb 2022 #4
Next step if classified materials were being discussed bottomofthehill Feb 2022 #5
He can't classify; he can only declassify. Ocelot II Feb 2022 #2
Thanks. One would think that an adviser of his - if he still has any - would enlighten him question everything Feb 2022 #3
When president Obama was president, gab13by13 Feb 2022 #6

bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
1. The call logs are not Classified.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:04 PM
Feb 2022

From Executive Order 13526

https://www.archives.gov/isoo/policy-documents/cnsi-eo.html

Classified national security information is information created or received by an agency of the federal government or a government contractor that would damage national security if improperly released. Since 1940, the President has managed the system of classifying information by executive order (E.O.); the most recent order concerning classified national security information is E.O. 13526, signed by President Obama on December 29, 2009.

Information can only be classified if an official determination is made that its unauthorized release would damage the national security. Levels of classification correspond to levels of supposed damage. E.O. 13526 specifies that information whose release would cause “exceptionally grave damage to the national security” is classified TOP SECRET; information whose release would cause “serious damage” is classified SECRET; CONFIDENTIAL is the lowest category of classified information currently in use. RESTRICTED is an obsolete category that was discontinued in 1953.

Classified information may take any form. Though paper documents are most common, there are classified photographs, maps, motion pictures, videotapes, databases, microfilms, hard drives, CDs, etc. Regardless of medium, classified information requires protection until it is formally declassified.

question everything

(47,476 posts)
4. Thank you. Interesting. The point of classified material came, of course with the findings
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Feb 2022

that many were carried to Margaret Lago.

And one opinion was that a president, in general, can classify and declassify material. I think that it was also discussed during Impeachment I.



bottomofthehill

(8,329 posts)
5. Next step if classified materials were being discussed
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:41 PM
Feb 2022

It would not have been on a normal Whitehouse line. It would have been on a secure phone like a Sectera or the like and would not show up in phone logs.

Ocelot II

(115,683 posts)
2. He can't classify; he can only declassify.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 02:09 PM
Feb 2022

And now that he's no longer the president he can't even do that. He can object all he wants, but his objection won't go anywhere.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»I don't understan this. I...