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Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:00 PM Feb 2022

I was just let go from my job two days ago. Awesome.

Sorry, I was "rightsized". (Who the frak thinks that's anywhere near a good word?)

18 years there, and they just reorganized things (again). It's not even a large company. Less than 100 people.

Two weeks prior to this, they announced end of year bonuses because 2021 was a good year. And we had a "ton" of work coming down the pipeline.

51 and back in the job market. This ought to be fun.

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I was just let go from my job two days ago. Awesome. (Original Post) Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2022 OP
Bummer! ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #1
eLearning. We did custom training for various clients. Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2022 #6
He Learned Bad Habits ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #9
Can you go into consulting? NT mahatmakanejeeves Feb 2022 #38
Don't think you'll have any problem finding work. Tommymac Feb 2022 #43
Sorry you lost your job. Hopefully you will Emile Feb 2022 #2
Wishing you the best of luck Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #3
Best of luck to you! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #4
I was there a few years ago. hurple Feb 2022 #5
I became unemployed at the same age. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #7
Yikes. So sorry to hear this. crickets Feb 2022 #8
Good luck to you. You will find something better, I'm sure. LoisB Feb 2022 #10
I was in this industry for years. Just sent you a private message. Nanuke Feb 2022 #11
What location Jerry2144 Feb 2022 #12
That sucks hibbing Feb 2022 #13
I've lost more than one job over the course SilverDawg Feb 2022 #14
Good luck! barbtries Feb 2022 #15
Craptastic. I hear you. ancianita Feb 2022 #16
Sorry, but it's a goodtime to find a job. GOOD LUCK! 634-5789 Feb 2022 #17
I think there is something better in your near future! MLAA Feb 2022 #18
Is FIRE in the cards? Shermann Feb 2022 #19
I lost my last job at 62.... getagrip_already Feb 2022 #20
I've done major retrainings for new industries twice, as well as Hortensis Feb 2022 #21
Reorganizing a company of less than 100 people? DFW Feb 2022 #22
Independent Consultant. Charge 30 dollars an hour to answer phone calls and text messages Volaris Feb 2022 #23
Absolutely this! Random Boomer Feb 2022 #44
OP here: Thank you EVERYONE for all the positive words, suggestions and thoughts! Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2022 #24
I'm sorry you lost your job. brer cat Feb 2022 #25
Keep the Faith Gilbert Moore Feb 2022 #26
Wishing you a short and successful search (n/t) Moostache Feb 2022 #27
I am 53 and I don't envy you. Set up routines and take care of yourself. ArizonaLib Feb 2022 #28
I was let go at ten years older than you. hamsterjill Feb 2022 #29
Actually I was fired twice from jobs in my lifetime. Aussie105 Feb 2022 #30
And don't forget to spread the word. calimary Feb 2022 #31
I'm going to be slightly less tactful & say "Fuck that guy." Maru Kitteh Feb 2022 #32
I started a new career at 50. Keep the faith. Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #33
I was just "let go" a few days after my 65th b'day dickthegrouch Feb 2022 #34
My brother had something similar happen to him a few years ago when the grocery cstanleytech Feb 2022 #35
Every time I got laid off I ended up in a better place. The Jungle 1 Feb 2022 #36
I'm sorry I don't have any great advice for you but whopis01 Feb 2022 #37
Yup! Hong Kong Cavalier Feb 2022 #39
Very Best of Luck to You! Cha Feb 2022 #40
That happened to me at 56. I definitely emphasize Generic Brad Feb 2022 #41
Damn, so sorry to hear this......good luck finding a better one, AND one you'll enjoy. a kennedy Feb 2022 #42
I lost my longtime job at the same age and it was the best thing that happened to me kimbutgar Feb 2022 #45

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
1. Bummer!
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:04 PM
Feb 2022

What industry?
Also, it seems odd to hear "right sizing" in a company of 100. I connect that more with companies of thousands, where bloat is more probable to occur.
Good luck on your search.
Wish I could suggest something?

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
6. eLearning. We did custom training for various clients.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:13 PM
Feb 2022

Mostly working in HTML/java web-based training now.

And this phrase is from the CEO (and now President, as the owner/President took a sabbitical) who's used the phrase "right sizing" several times when they had to trim costs. He had worked for some larger companies prior to joining my former employer.

ProfessorGAC

(64,990 posts)
9. He Learned Bad Habits
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:39 PM
Feb 2022

That term is sparsely used in well run good companies, now.
Most executives know how stupid it sounded in the 80s & 90s and quit using it.
Apparently, not everyone.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
43. Don't think you'll have any problem finding work.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 09:48 PM
Feb 2022

51 is young. IT is a hot field.

I was in my early 60's when I took my current position, and had been out of the work force for a few years for medical reasons. Never had any issues finding work when I wanted it.

Greates thing now is you will probably be able to find a WFH position and not have to relocate or anything.

Good Luck. PM me if you would like the names of headhunters or firms I'v used/worked for in the past. I'm an IT pro, not a programmer/trainer/web designer - those positions are especially hot if one has experience IMHO>

And LinkedIN is definitely your friend.

hurple

(1,306 posts)
5. I was there a few years ago.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:12 PM
Feb 2022

Cut right after my birthday in 2018. Looked for work for 6 months. Got a new job offer on the same day I received my final unemployment check. The new job pays $20,000 more than the old job, has far better benefits, and the people are beyond awesome. I have also been working from home since March 2020. The only downside is I will not be vested in the new job's pension until I hit 61 and i planned to retire from the previous place before that..

This new job has shown me just how toxic the old job was.

I hope your job search turns out at least as happy as mine did.

Good Luck!!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
7. I became unemployed at the same age.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:16 PM
Feb 2022

Yes, it was obviously terrifying.

I went nuts with job applications and job sites.

Ended up with the best and most exciting job of my career, which I am still in (a decade later). It took two months.

crickets

(25,960 posts)
8. Yikes. So sorry to hear this.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 04:38 PM
Feb 2022

Hope your job search lands a new position soon, one that's better than the job you're leaving.

Great nick, btw!

hibbing

(10,096 posts)
13. That sucks
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:23 PM
Feb 2022

I'm just trying to hang on a few more years and decide if I want to pay out of pocket for health insurance or continue to be a wage slave until I am eligible for Medicare.

Peace

SilverDawg

(797 posts)
14. I've lost more than one job over the course
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:25 PM
Feb 2022

of my career. And EVERY TIME it led to better circumstances.

It's an opportunity.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
15. Good luck!
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:28 PM
Feb 2022

I hope you find a job you love twice as much as this one.

51 is not so old. I was 63 and could not buy a job - but then a former co-worker came looking for me and I've been working as a semi-retired contractor ever since. I hope you have a happy ending as I did!

Shermann

(7,411 posts)
19. Is FIRE in the cards?
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:37 PM
Feb 2022

If so, getting the "package" on your way out the workforce door is the best thing that can happen. I'm around the same age and that will likely be my next chapter. Right now, it's OMY (one more year) syndrome.

On the flip side, young or old, you couldn't ask for a better job market in tech.

https://tech.slashdot.org/story/22/02/17/1550212/tech-companies-face-a-fresh-crisis-hiring

getagrip_already

(14,700 posts)
20. I lost my last job at 62....
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:37 PM
Feb 2022

Got another one within a few months. Better money, better benefits, fun people to work with. I'm 63 now and not looking back. Prior to that job, I was laid off from a company I had been with for 10 years. Prior to that one, I was with the company for 12 years and got laid off. I just can't hold a job.

Just take a deep breath, gather your thoughts, and ask yourself what you want to do next.

51 is the new 30.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
21. I've done major retrainings for new industries twice, as well as
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:42 PM
Feb 2022

smaller ones, and they were great opportunities. There are so many exciting things out there. Both changes cost me before I regained good income, never applied for help, but I made them both good changes. Speaking of help, look to grants if needed.

Pell grants are only for undergraduate students, but fwiw the house just passed an expansion last week, and the senate had already passed a version, so that's going to happen. For some reason, the house bill excludes on-line classes. (?!) Maybe that'll be worked out.

Best of luck.

DFW

(54,338 posts)
22. Reorganizing a company of less than 100 people?
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:43 PM
Feb 2022

That sounds like it should have taken about 20 minutes, and after a good year, without letting anyone go. My outfit is now over 500 people. The Reagan recession took us from 125 people down to less than 10. 18% interest rates took all the air out of our lungs. We got together with a rival in the same situation. We never looked back. Now we are 500 people worldwide, still taking on people, age no issue (competence and honesty are), and things couldn't be better.

Look ahead, not back. It not the worst time to be looking, and you might just find yourself in better company than you had before. Even if it takes a few months--this is a beginning as much as an end. Now, it's easy to cheerlead from my position, but my daughter was in sort of the same position when her employer went bust about 5 years ago. It took about 5 months, and she is not in an easy field (fashion) to be in when you live in Manhattan. But her tenacity and patience paid off, and she got a position that paid $15 more than what she had been making. It still doesn't go far in Manhattan, but now she is married, and with her husband's income combined with hers, they get by OK.

Just remember, think may suck now, and it's OK if they do. It's not OK to think think this is the end of the line. No way it is.

Volaris

(10,269 posts)
23. Independent Consultant. Charge 30 dollars an hour to answer phone calls and text messages
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

from your former employer.
See if they're dumb enough to cut checks for the quarterly invoices you send them lol!

I bet they fuckin are

Random Boomer

(4,168 posts)
44. Absolutely this!
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 11:13 PM
Feb 2022

Those drastic cuts are going to cripple them, as the CEO will eventually figure out.

Hong Kong Cavalier

(4,572 posts)
24. OP here: Thank you EVERYONE for all the positive words, suggestions and thoughts!
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 05:53 PM
Feb 2022

I did have two people who were not officially employees of our company (but renting and sharing office space and gear with us) who asked for my info 'cause they might have jobs for me.

The office had been pretty empty because covid (and our job lets us work remotely) so it was strange to go in there and clear out my desk. 18 years at the same place caused me to gather a lot of stuff to make my desk more 'mine'.

I left the 10 year anniversary clock that had my name on it and the award I received in 2007 for some above and beyond work I did.

After my former boss and my friend (who helped me get the job 18 years ago) left, the Exodus™ began. And all the fun people I enjoyed working with departed in a slow trickle out the door. So in the end, this was probably the best thing to happen for me right now.

Maybe a kick in the pants is what I need?

Gilbert Moore

(218 posts)
26. Keep the Faith
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:07 PM
Feb 2022

This is a great time to be in the job market. . . I know that sounds trite, but ol' Joe is creating a ton of jobs.

Best of luck !

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
28. I am 53 and I don't envy you. Set up routines and take care of yourself.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:24 PM
Feb 2022

A friend of mine and I recently underwent similar relationship losses. He spend the time keeping busy, feeling a little weird about keeping his mind of stuff. I spent mine thinking through it and really chasing down feelings. I got nothing done. He said he wished he could have done what I did. I told him I wish I would have done what he did.

Here is the rub:

He was taking care of himself and he can spend the rest of whatever thinking about and processing stuff. I didn't take care of myself and now after several years not only am I still processing, etc. but I am learning to take care of myself again. I know how to do it, but getting back in the groove is REALLY REALLY difficult and feels defeating. I am doing better, but I wish I had gone his route.



Create and keep routines that are good for you. Keep good people around you. You probably do these things, and if you do, you can feel good that you are doing good stuff.

Times when and if you feel bad, go visit someone who is just glad to see you and doesn't care about anything else. It gives you a break from the blues. You go back home feeling a 1000 times better.

Good luck and don't let yourself get down.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
29. I was let go at ten years older than you.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:30 PM
Feb 2022

I worked at one company for almost twenty years and it closed when the owner retired. Got a new job with someone who was a Trumper and she and I didn’t jive. Unless you were a Trump cheerleader, she had no use for you. Took me a while but I did find a job. It’s not anything fabulous but it’ll be okay for a while. I’ll retire in three years.

My best advice is to spend a lot of time on your resume. As you probably know, it’s all about the algorithms these days.

Best of luck - you’re going to be just fine.

Aussie105

(5,377 posts)
30. Actually I was fired twice from jobs in my lifetime.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:32 PM
Feb 2022

At the age of 16, I worked on the back of a garbage truck manual handling rubbish.
At 17, drove taxis.

Both temporary holiday jobs, so no great loss.

Worked the next job for 40 years. At times I hoped something would trigger me being free from it. From about 50 onwards, I think.
Never worked up the courage to walk away, not until ill health at 63 decided for me.

Never felt freer in my life.

Sometimes things happen for a reason, one door closes, another opens, etc.

51 isn't too young to declare yourself officially retired, if finances allow.

If not, good luck on the job hunting.
You have skills and experience on your side.

calimary

(81,198 posts)
31. And don't forget to spread the word.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:40 PM
Feb 2022

Maybe the person you told doesn't have anything for you, but they might know somebody who does. Or THAT person, in turn, might know somebody who does.

Can't hurt to put it out there, and the economy looks to be picking up as COVID subsides a little. Around my own area, I'm seeing a LOT more "We're Hiring!" signs in all kinds of businesses and storefronts. And, shoot, the weather's getting better. A local park or nature preserve might be looking for a few new people!

Somebody upthread suggested taking time with your resume. AGREED!!!

That should give you time to think, and consider ALL the talents, capabilities, and experience you bring to the table. You might dovetail with something else other than what you did in the job that just ended. And you already have an established track record of reliability and stability in your favor, too.


One more thing: Please let us know when you land something! Cuz we're gonna worry.

Maru Kitteh

(28,336 posts)
32. I'm going to be slightly less tactful & say "Fuck that guy."
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:45 PM
Feb 2022

Fuck that guy. You deserve better and you will find it. You’ll be appreciated at your next job.

dickthegrouch

(3,172 posts)
34. I was just "let go" a few days after my 65th b'day
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:45 PM
Feb 2022

I had specifically declined Medicare because I expected to work another few years.
Now I find that even though the premium was paid a month in advance and probably has another 13 days on it, the healthcare provider has terminated me on the same day as the layoff.
Apparently it is not possible to buy stop gap coverage which starts 'today' and I have to wait until the beginning of March to start any coverage. Mind you, I can wait until Feb 27th to buy it!
Furious with the entire industry (insurance, healthcare) right now.
Good luck to you.

cstanleytech

(26,280 posts)
35. My brother had something similar happen to him a few years ago when the grocery
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:47 PM
Feb 2022

chain he had been with for 18 years as an assistant produce manager fired him and a significant number of their other full timers.
Hopefully though it will turn out ok for you as it did for him as he went from earning a little over 12 an hour as an assistant produce manager at his old company to earning 17 an hour now as a produce clerk at Publix.

 

The Jungle 1

(4,552 posts)
36. Every time I got laid off I ended up in a better place.
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 06:54 PM
Feb 2022

I had to look when I was 55 once. I did not realize how in demand my skill set was. I got a job with a major corporation in just weeks. Apparently know one knows how to fix broken mechanical stuff anymore.

Generic Brad

(14,274 posts)
41. That happened to me at 56. I definitely emphasize
Thu Feb 17, 2022, 09:25 PM
Feb 2022

The shock. The betrayal. The fear. You will probably experience PTSD of sorts for some time. You definitely have a lot of feelings to process. I know I never felt more alone when it happened to me. You have more courage than I did because I couldn't bear to talk about it publicly here or anywhere else.

It's possible to come out of this better and happier than before. I've changed industries, moved cross country, and am now contributing at a high level on a completely different career path. If you ever need a ray of hope, a sounding board, or someone to just vent to feel free to PM me. There are many DU'er like me who have experienced this and we are here for you if you need it.

kimbutgar

(21,111 posts)
45. I lost my longtime job at the same age and it was the best thing that happened to me
Fri Feb 18, 2022, 02:19 PM
Feb 2022

I got out of the office and work two jobs that I enjoy. I set my schedule and when I want to work.

Use this time to find a job that you love. You’re young enough to be hired.

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