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Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:00 AM Feb 2022

You know how Republicans show their hand by projecting their own illegal behavior?

I'm just wondering why they're going back to 2016 to claim that Hillary Clinton was spying on Trump. Assuming projectionism applies, are we going to learn that Trump was spying on everyone else?

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You know how Republicans show their hand by projecting their own illegal behavior? (Original Post) Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 OP
Probably. ...nt 2naSalit Feb 2022 #1
I have no doubt that Trump had the dirt on both Republicans and Democrats. no_hypocrisy Feb 2022 #2
50 years of hotel registries bucolic_frolic Feb 2022 #4
And not just registries...it wouldn't surprise me a bit if there were Tanuki Feb 2022 #7
Trump may not have spied on the Dems, but his Russian pals did. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #3
I thought of that also. Delmette2.0 Feb 2022 #10
For sure. Keeps them loyal to wnylib Feb 2022 #12
Great question PatSeg Feb 2022 #5
let's not forget that his buddy and patron, murdoch, was taping phones in the uk. mopinko Feb 2022 #6
Is there no code of ethics amongst those scumbags? erronis Feb 2022 #8
agreed and Epstein immediately comes to mind lookyhereyou Feb 2022 #9
yup mopinko Feb 2022 #11
What makes you think it was ONLY in the UK? Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #13
oh i dont. mopinko Feb 2022 #17
SOP. It's in the "Tyrant's Own Guide and Handbook" under how to demoralize your opposition. Ford_Prefect Feb 2022 #18
yup mopinko Feb 2022 #19
Well, Lindsay Graham, for instance. yardwork Feb 2022 #14
Exactly! Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #15
Epstein may be gone, but... 3825-87867 Feb 2022 #16
I don't think it's a coinky dinky that Q-Anon and other hard right groups Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #20
You know Trump has done it when he accuses others of doing the same thing. twodogsbarking Feb 2022 #21

no_hypocrisy

(46,061 posts)
2. I have no doubt that Trump had the dirt on both Republicans and Democrats.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:21 AM
Feb 2022

Whether it was via private investigators, Putin, etc., he knew where the bodies were buried.

GoCubsGo

(32,078 posts)
3. Trump may not have spied on the Dems, but his Russian pals did.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:29 AM
Feb 2022

They also hacked the GOP. I have no doubt they shared all that information with their asset.

Delmette2.0

(4,163 posts)
10. I thought of that also.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:06 AM
Feb 2022

Why would Putin stop with the Democrats and not go for the Republicans? I think they hit the jackpot with the Rs and are blackmailing most of them.

PatSeg

(47,352 posts)
5. Great question
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:38 AM
Feb 2022

If Trump was doing it, he wouldn't be able to imagine his opponents not doing the same. We've learned that he is always projecting.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
6. let's not forget that his buddy and patron, murdoch, was taping phones in the uk.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:47 AM
Feb 2022

including the phones of the royal family.
and that's just one scum bag. i have zero doubt they are blackmailing ppl.

ftr, i think w was doing a lot of that too.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
13. What makes you think it was ONLY in the UK?
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:49 AM
Feb 2022

It has been said more than once he has a collection of facts and rumors about the high and mighty that rivals Edgar J. Hoover's. He built his world wide empire on selling them, and one suspects keeping them.

Russian GRU used to call it "pressure". SOP was use meaningfully incriminating information about them and those they cared about, along with payment for services rendered.

mopinko

(70,067 posts)
17. oh i dont.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:23 AM
Feb 2022

just like pecker, catch and kill juicy stories, and you have a shitton of power.

it was strongly hinted to me that members of congress were under surveillance in the w years. i was asking why impeachment was 'off the table'. i shouldnt name name's, but it was a congressman's right hand man who told me that 'people are afraid'. when i asked 'of what?' he clammed up.
about this time there was a rumor about jan schakowsky having a lesbian affair w a russian spy. might have come from pecker. i dont recall.

so, yeah, if they have nothing on you, they'll just make it up.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
18. SOP. It's in the "Tyrant's Own Guide and Handbook" under how to demoralize your opposition.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:43 AM
Feb 2022

Title: Tyrant's Own Guide and Handbook
Publisher ? : ? Intimidation Press, Inc.; Thirty-first edition (March 17, 2020)
Language ? : ? English, (avail: Russian, French, Mandarin, Spanish, Australian)
Hardcover ? : ? 3000 pages
ISBN-10 ? : ? 0831157312
ISBN-13 ? : ? 958-0831157311
Item Weight ? : ? 2.9 pounds
Dimensions ? : ? 4.6 x 2.8 x 7 inches

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
15. Exactly!
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:00 AM
Feb 2022

It will be a crazy acknowledgment if it all finally comes together. A combination of Putin KGB methods and Hoover's FBI.

3825-87867

(840 posts)
16. Epstein may be gone, but...
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:15 AM
Feb 2022

I wonder who is the "current" Epstein. I mean, someone must be carrying on similarly. Too much "disposable income" and fantasies from some wealthy, bored people. And have we stopped looking because we think no one does that anymore? There's just too many interested "old, older or not so old wealthy men" who will pay for anything.

Maybe it's time to start taking a hard look around. No telling what we could find by just looking. Just like who is the current trump?

Just sayin'

Baitball Blogger

(46,697 posts)
20. I don't think it's a coinky dinky that Q-Anon and other hard right groups
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 10:53 AM
Feb 2022

attack Democrats because they believe they're involved with pedophile rings. I think there are pedophile rings that the rich and well-connected have been a part of for decades, and it's another example of how Republicans project their own nefarious actions on to the Democrats. Epstein was probably one of those real bottom feeders that started the rumors.

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