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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHillary Clinton uses the M word
And Fux runs scared
https://www.businessinsider.com/hillary-clinton-fox-news-is-awfully-close-to-actual-malice-in-their-coverage-of-her-2022-2
Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton on Thursday criticized Fox News' coverage of her connection to what some conservatives have argued was a plot to spy on former President Donald Trump but that fact-checkers have found to be severely lacking in context.
Clinton went so far as to accuse Fox of brushing up on the line of actual malice, an important legal distinction in defamation law.
"It's funny the more trouble Trump gets into the wilder the charges and conspiracy theories about me seem to get," Clinton said during a keynote speech at the New York Democratic Party's convention. "Fox leads the charge with accusations against me, counting on their audience to fall for it again. As an aside, they're getting awfully close to actual malice in their attacks."
Contrary to his words Hannity cannot be serious when he tells her to bring it on- clearly Fux lawyers disagree.
Lovie777
(12,326 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,211 posts).
The track record of denigration, unsubstantiated claims, minimal retractions and incitement of others are cumulative in nature and show a pattern of harm not only to reputation but of physical being.
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tecelote
(5,122 posts)You're the one that has the clout and you've obviously been disparaged criminally.
Please! Take them down.
It just might save Democracy in America.
Seriously.
gab13by13
(21,402 posts)Fox went from talking about her hundreds of times a day, to 2 times yesterday after she said the M word. Bwahaha, Do it Hillary.
malaise
(269,157 posts)You have to bankrupt these criminals
ificandream
(9,387 posts)It really says it clearly, though, how Fawks backed down after her threat to them. It also shows how phony they are since they suddenly changed their script. It'll be interesting to see what the future holds on both sides. I really do hope she sues them. They've been after the Clintons since day one. There's more than enough evidence to slap them down silly.
bucolic_frolic
(43,281 posts)This is so uncharacteristic of Hillary. I wonder if it portends something more widespread by her or by Dems in general. Maybe just to force Fox to tread a bit more cautiously. Can they afford more lawsuits - after Dominion?
StClone
(11,686 posts)Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)The Supreme Court, in New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, 376 U.S. 254 (1964), established the "actual malice" standard in defamation actions brought by public figures. A public figure must prove that the person uttering the defamatory statement did so "with knowledge of its falsity" or with "reckless disregard for the truth of the statement". It is a high bar for a defamation plaintiff.
Hillary is telling Fox to watch its step.
cilla4progress
(24,766 posts)general parlance through Alaska Barbie (Palin') suit was a master stroke!
Fortinbras Armstrong
(4,473 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Every fucking one of them
ancianita
(36,133 posts)OMGWTF
(3,975 posts)a subsidiary of Clear Channel which also hosted Fux News. She would go to the company Christmas party and people from Fux would tell her they knew they were telling lies, but hey, money, career, blah blah, you know.
KentuckyWoman
(6,692 posts)We ordered an electric recliner for my husband that was delivered with a sickening odor. We shut it up in the 2nd bedroom with towels stuffed in the door and tried to open windows as much as possible to let it "off gas"
After 3 weeks of it I finally managed to get a sales manager that told me to take it outside. It's winter, in Lexington. I live on the 2nd floor with no balcony. My husband is on chemo. I can't lug this downstairs alone and can't park it out in the parking lot. It was a completely ignorant request.
I told the guy. The bottom line is this thing is making us sick. Was he going to help get it out of the house and make us whole or would I have to seek remediation some other way.
Less than an hour later, he personally came to the apartment with his nephew and a refund check to take the chair back.
Whip out a legal term and everyone hops to.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)Hillary is not running for anything and holds no government position, yet they keep attacking her with ridiculous lies as if she is still politically relevant. Pathetic superficial people with absolutely no discernable value or purpose, criticizing people who have actually contributed something.
Thirty years she has put up with this crap. Enough already.
malaise
(269,157 posts)They can't help themselves
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)PatSeg
(47,586 posts)They are so obvious, yet people keep falling for their tired routine.
PatSeg
(47,586 posts)Hillary is always considered a good target.
KS Toronado
(17,317 posts)I'm sure his viewers would love to see Hannity take her down a notch, the answer is simple.........they never
invite Democrats on, probably because they'd be exposed as lying liars, you know fake news.
malaise
(269,157 posts)The truth
Historic NY
(37,453 posts)and punitive damages against the purveyors . Thousands of hours of video tapes.
niyad
(113,552 posts)ificandream
(9,387 posts)It's probably the biggest mistake this country ever made was not to elect her.
niyad
(113,552 posts)FoxNewsSucks
(10,435 posts)The presidency was also stolen from Gore, nearly stolen from Biden despite a 7+ million vote win, and probably Kerry as well. Carter was cheated out of reelection.
Republicons haven't legitimately won a presidential election since Eisenhower. They lie, cheat and steal every time, and it works for them.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)May I use it to remind my family and friends to never forget this.
Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)turbinetree
(24,720 posts)and is trying to take down this government, every democratic government they have attacked..... Australia, Britain , come to mind
Midnight Writer
(21,795 posts)treestar
(82,383 posts)and are actually scared of a lawsuit from Hillary.
malaise
(269,157 posts)BSdetect
(8,999 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)dalton99a
(81,570 posts)honest.abe
(8,685 posts)I hope she goes for it. I think she has a case.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)whathehell
(29,090 posts)and other places, many of them, believe, and have believe Right Wing lies.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)The play book goes way back. One thing we have going for us is we always beat the fascist slime.
whathehell
(29,090 posts)We always have, and hopefully, always will .
FakeNoose
(32,748 posts)They've had malice ever since Bill Clinton was elected in 1992. Malice is very hard to prove in court, but there has to be a way to prove Faux Noise's malice. It's so plainly obvious to all of us.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Link to tweet
Link to tweet
malaise
(269,157 posts)BootinUp
(47,186 posts)imho. very humble. lol
calimary
(81,465 posts)Gee whiz. Whooda thunkit
Joinfortmill
(14,456 posts)I hope she sues their asses.
OneGrassRoot
(22,920 posts)put all of Fox's dirty laundry - deadly misinformation, gross hypocrisy, and character assassination, to put it mildly -- on display for the world to see.
She sat for 11 fucking hours. Those asshats can't handle 15 minutes of being questioned under oath. Fucking cowards.
BootinUp
(47,186 posts)trusty elf
(7,401 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Hi there my friend
trusty elf
(7,401 posts)Hi malaise!
LetMyPeopleVote
(145,554 posts)malaise
(269,157 posts)Im lovin it.
Evolve Dammit
(16,763 posts)ificandream
(9,387 posts)Either by lawsuit or something. That FN station (my new term for it) deserves to be stomped down.
Mr. Evil
(2,856 posts)why do we allow a corporation whose only value is based on how often and how well it lies to even exist.
malaise
(269,157 posts)It would have been shut down ages ago.