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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFranklin Graham tells his followers to "pray for Putin"
Franklin must be raking in the rubles.
Link to tweet
Link to tweet
wryter2000
(46,040 posts)Never did any good. He never changed.
Lonestarblue
(9,986 posts)Like heart attacks, strokes, extreme dementia, etc. No apologiesI despise the cretin.
lastlib
(23,224 posts)...into a bulging, fiery blob of angina......I guess the answer was "no"............
Comfortably_Numb
(3,806 posts)SleeplessinSoCal
(9,112 posts)Sadly it wasn't a transplant. The heart of stone was just protected.
"constrictive pericarditis, inflammation, and hardening of the sac around the heart that compresses the heart and prevents it from working properly.
The surgery involved removing the pericardium, the statement said."
Demovictory9
(32,454 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,169 posts)While hundreds of thousands of Americans were getting infected, sick and dying......and he did get COVID and he gave it to thousands of people
I'm not so sure it was a prayer but more like a wish...since I don't believe in any gods. There really isn't any difference between praying and wishing. It's all magical thinking.
Crunchy Frog
(26,582 posts)lame54
(35,287 posts)Lars39
(26,109 posts)Spurring on his anti-American followers to more foul deeds.
I remember it was about a week after Dubya bombed Iraq that Franklin Graham was in Iraq looking around. I still wonder how many U.S. troops died because of his little visit.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)greatauntoftriplets
(175,734 posts)onecaliberal
(32,854 posts)Cha
(297,196 posts)PufPuf23
(8,774 posts)pretty much a win-win scenario.
If Franklin does not get hit by lightning, their perceived god at best does not listen to their prayers and is not a just and loving god; and at worse from Franklin's perspective, a smoking ash of Franklin.
Toxic Christianity needs to be addressed if the USA is to survive as a united nation.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)I hope I get to see it.
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)MacKasey
(986 posts)TomSlick
(11,098 posts)Last edited Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)
ON EDIT:
Graham's statement is that we should pray that God will change Putin's heart and move away from war. This statement was entirely appropriate.
I don't like the guy but even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.
Traildogbob
(8,738 posts)Savor his liberal tears. Would sell mugs with trumps face to drink them out of.
durablend
(7,460 posts)Traildogbob
(8,738 posts)Too lazy to hammer.
Old Crank
(3,580 posts)I'm not a Graham fan at all.
Here is the tweet. He says we need to pray for him to change his heart.
https://www.trendsmap.com/twitter/tweet/1494796401779351558
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I'm not a fan of Franklin by any means, but at least let's not take his words out of context.
Ex Lurker
(3,813 posts)but this didn't fit into any of the categories. There should be on for "false or misleading information"
Old Crank
(3,580 posts)This post is what we accuse Trumpers of doing.
llmart
(15,536 posts)what will be their rationalization for their God not hearing their prayers?
I'm sure there'll be one. There always is when prayers aren't answered.
AllTooEasy
(1,260 posts)NO
maybe even Hell No!
The consequences of Free Will are sometimes a bitch! Unfortunately Putin has Free Will too. I just wish someone close to Putin would use their Free Will to .well, Ill exercise my free will and wont say it, because some ultra-pacifist DUer will exercise their free will and flag me, again.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)Praying for Putin to back away from war is appropriate. I assumed the worst about Graham based on my dislike for the man.
I was wrong.
hippywife
(22,767 posts)You can edit it to keep this from being misinformation by adding that you were wrong and posting the correction.
I'm no fan of either person, but I'm even less a fan of disinformation.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)hippywife
(22,767 posts)when I posted that. Need to redirect that comment to them.
TomSlick
(11,098 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)He needs the prayers more than pootin.
DFW
(54,372 posts)Not that Graham is any more believable as a "spiritual" man.
SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)they all look alike to me.
DFW
(54,372 posts)roamer65
(36,745 posts)3catwoman3
(23,975 posts)...doing duck-and-cover drills, and hearing my mother blame the Communists/Russians for pretty much everything bad in the world, including dust bunnies under the beds (slight exaggeration here, but not much), I have great difficulty understanding why any American would be rooting for Putin.
Botany
(70,503 posts)Last edited Sat Feb 19, 2022, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)
.. with the thought that Christian Evangelicals were one of the biggest threats to America. They smile and talk about being "blessed" but in reality they are black hearted bastards who think their "sky God" makes them superior to others, that the Confederacy was really,
God's army, and that Trump was a sign of God's love for them because nothing tastes as sweet as a liberal's tears.
electric_blue68
(14,891 posts)I occasionally would hear one talking to a radio host on Air America.
sakabatou
(42,152 posts)DFW
(54,372 posts)And it is NOT to the United States.
KS Toronado
(17,230 posts)when will the rest of the evangelicals fall in step? And will the repug party then have to join
in on account of being the religious party with family values and need to support them?
rurallib
(62,413 posts)and other so-called Christians and decided to fall in line with them.
Initech
(100,068 posts)dchill
(38,489 posts)paleotn
(17,912 posts)he's not operating under the facade his father did. Billy Graham was just as much a piece of shit as his son. Liars, cheats and scoundrels for gaaawwwwd.
KentuckyWoman
(6,679 posts)It takes 3 seconds or less to go to Facebook and see what he actually said.
https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham
Yeah, Graham is a skunk but lets keep it real.
groundloop
(11,518 posts)I despise the right wing for taking everything said by Democrats out of context, we don't need to do that here. There's plenty of legitimate issues to despise righties for without making stuff up.
catrose
(5,066 posts)SouthernDem4ever
(6,617 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,582 posts)musclecar6
(1,686 posts)Isnt Franklin Graham one of those evangelicals that believes Grab em by the pussy Don never makes a false step. Now he wants us to pray for another megalomaniac like the Orange Nazi !?!?!?! Sheesh.
keopeli
(3,515 posts)Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you read. - quote by my mom.
Still, I believe Frank did this to get clicks. You don't usually call for prayers for the perpetrator. You usually pray for the victim. This is likely slight of hand, knowing it would get lots of clicks. Frank is certainly immoral, but he's not dumb.
thinkingagain
(906 posts)Other person tweets explain better than I
Grand Masker Kushibo, MPH
@kushibo
Replying to
@rexzane1
Not true. It is literally that a war will be avoided.
Franklin Graham
Feb 18
Pray for President Putin today. This may sound like a strange request, but we need to pray that God would work in his heart so that war could be avoided at all cost. May God give wisdom to the leaders involved in these talks & negotiations, as well as those advising them.
& then
Grand Masker Kushibo, MPH
@kushibo
Replying to @TeaPainUSA
Far be it for me to ever sing the praises of the FauXian that is Franklin Graham, but his words are being taken completely out of context. H
ShazzieB
(16,390 posts)I was raised a Southern Baptist, which is basically old school evangelical Christianity, and I can assure you that praying for world leaders to be guided in their decisions or (as in this case) praying for someone's "heart and mind" to be changed so that they see the error of their ways is absolutely nothing new. Whether this has any effect is a whole separate conversation. All I am saying is that there is nothing new, shocking, or treasonous about this.
Prayer is a HUGE thing in these people's lives, and they pray about everything and "for" everyone. All. The. Damned. Time. It's like that Geico commercial says: It's what they do. Prayer is a very BFD to them. Whatever is on their minds, they pray about it, and the looming thread of war in Ukraine is certainly something that is weighing on a lot of people's minds right now.
I realize the whole concept of asking God to make things better sounds silly and childish to a lot of people, but that's a whole separate issue and, imo, neither nor there. The point is that it should not be shocking to anyone when an evangelical preacher tells his followers to prayer for someone like Putin.
Personally, I can't stand Franklin Graham. I think he's flat, dead wrong about a lot of things, and he represents a brand of Christianity that I consider to be toxic in many ways. Anyone who wants to tear a strip off of him when it comes to his anti-LGBTQ+ views, his toxic misogyny, etc., is more than welcome to do so, afaic. But the idea that his asking people to pray for Putin neans he's some sort of pro-Putin traitor is just plain silly. I don't think he wants Ukraine to be invaded any more than we do. He's just telling his people to do what they would do in response to any problem, large or small: pray about it and pray for the people involved. This is s.o.p. for those folks, and people need to quit reading things into this that aren't there and blowing it all out of proportion.
COL Mustard
(5,897 posts)May his days in office be few, and another take his place.
keithbvadu2
(36,793 posts)Sovereign citizen praying to Donald Trump
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)His daddy must be doing flips in his tomb.
Lady Freedom Returns
(14,120 posts)🙄
sky_masterson
(416 posts)When Russia was an enemy to them and they put US interest first.
Back in the before time, in the long long ago.
Blue Owl
(50,360 posts)Raine
(30,540 posts)and does the decent thing by leaving Ukraine alone. 🤔
patricia92243
(12,595 posts)them and sad for the USA.
hippywife
(22,767 posts)As much as I despise these two people, these tweets are inaccurate, inflammatory and this posts makes you and DU look ignorant. Please update this to correct the record.
rockfordfile
(8,702 posts)ornotna
(10,800 posts)Pray for the Russian not the President of the United States? What a waste of skin.