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Franklin Graham tells his followers to "pray for Putin" (Original Post) FelineOverlord Feb 2022 OP
I used to pray for Trump when he was president wryter2000 Feb 2022 #1
I used to pray for him, too, but my prayer was a bit different--involves serious health issues! Lonestarblue Feb 2022 #13
I occasionally prayed for God to change his heart..... lastlib Feb 2022 #31
.....that you know of. Tick tock Donnie. Comfortably_Numb Feb 2022 #38
Graham had heart surgery in November SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #51
so he actually has a heart Demovictory9 Feb 2022 #57
I use to pray Trump would get COVID Farmer-Rick Feb 2022 #32
I prayed for him when he had Covid. Didn't do any good though. ☠️ Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #35
"Always side with the bully" - Pontius Pilate lame54 Feb 2022 #2
He's a vulture Lars39 Feb 2022 #3
What a twisted degenerate.. CentralMass Feb 2022 #4
For his death?? greatauntoftriplets Feb 2022 #5
: onecaliberal Feb 2022 #6
F Fucking Graham's a Fascist Idiot. Cha Feb 2022 #7
Franklin could pray for his followers to pay for Franklin to be hit by lightning, PufPuf23 Feb 2022 #8
Jesus is gonna have extra fun with this idiot. roamer65 Feb 2022 #9
Goddamn scum dalton99a Feb 2022 #10
I will pray for President Biden to stop this agression MacKasey Feb 2022 #11
Jesus wept. TomSlick Feb 2022 #12
They would Traildogbob Feb 2022 #14
Then they'd get the nail guns out and get to work durablend Feb 2022 #26
You are correct Traildogbob Feb 2022 #48
AMEN! 634-5789 Feb 2022 #28
This is the tweet Old Crank Feb 2022 #15
Thanks for the link - I suspected it was something more along these lines. groundloop Feb 2022 #23
I tried to alert for abuse Ex Lurker Feb 2022 #53
Need that Old Crank Feb 2022 #56
So, if Putin doesn't "change his heart"... llmart Feb 2022 #33
God Answers ALL prayers, and sometimes the answer is... AllTooEasy Feb 2022 #45
I should have looked behind the thread title before reacting. TomSlick Feb 2022 #49
So go back and edit it. hippywife Feb 2022 #55
Sound advice. TomSlick Feb 2022 #61
I'm sorry, I thought you were the OP hippywife Feb 2022 #62
Nevertheless, you were right about my post - I've edited. TomSlick Feb 2022 #64
Wasn't Franklin the one caught with his pants down? SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #16
I think that was Falwell, Jr. DFW Feb 2022 #21
Thanks for the correction SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #67
And they all sound alike to everyody n/t DFW Feb 2022 #69
Putin lovers need visits from the FBI. roamer65 Feb 2022 #17
As someone who was born in 1951 and grew up... 3catwoman3 Feb 2022 #18
Last summer I was in north central VA and I left.. Botany Feb 2022 #19
There actually are Liberal Christian Evangelicals... electric_blue68 Feb 2022 #59
Move to Russia then, Graham! sakabatou Feb 2022 #20
At least, the Republicans and their followers are finally being forced to show their true allegiance DFW Feb 2022 #22
If Franklin Graham wants christians to pray for Putin KS Toronado Feb 2022 #24
I think Franklin has already gauged to feelings of the evagelicals rurallib Feb 2022 #42
Fucking tratior! Initech Feb 2022 #25
Ok, that's IT! I don't like him anymore! dchill Feb 2022 #27
Only good thing about Junior Graham.... paleotn Feb 2022 #29
Total misrepresentation. Graham did not say this. KentuckyWoman Feb 2022 #30
Too bad there's not an alert category for false information groundloop Feb 2022 #37
Jesus did say to pray for your enemies. I just hadn't seen FG paying much attention to JC catrose Feb 2022 #39
noted! SouthernDem4ever Feb 2022 #68
I doubt it's kompromat. Most likely just shared values. Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #34
Wait ......... What ? musclecar6 Feb 2022 #36
Twitter posting is NOT the news. Please, this is what got us into our mess in the first place. keopeli Feb 2022 #40
Don't like graham but there is more to the tweet we shouldn't spread musinformation thinkingagain Feb 2022 #41
I agree. ShazzieB Feb 2022 #50
I'll give Putin the same prayer I gave Trump. COL Mustard Feb 2022 #43
Pray to Trump? keithbvadu2 Feb 2022 #44
Even the Righteous Gemstones would be appalled Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #46
Hey! Let's send him tots and pears too! Lady Freedom Returns Feb 2022 #47
I miss Republican classic. sky_masterson Feb 2022 #52
I'll pray for Putin... to fucking croak... Blue Owl Feb 2022 #54
I imagine the intent is to pray that Putin comes to his senses Raine Feb 2022 #58
Wow! Just wow! This shows how much organized religion has fallen. Sad for patricia92243 Feb 2022 #60
You've been told that these tweets are not accurate more than 12 hours ago. hippywife Feb 2022 #63
kick him out of our country rockfordfile Feb 2022 #65
Scumbag traitor can kiss my ass ornotna Feb 2022 #66

Lonestarblue

(9,986 posts)
13. I used to pray for him, too, but my prayer was a bit different--involves serious health issues!
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:00 PM
Feb 2022

Like heart attacks, strokes, extreme dementia, etc. No apologies—I despise the cretin.

lastlib

(23,224 posts)
31. I occasionally prayed for God to change his heart.....
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:47 PM
Feb 2022

...into a bulging, fiery blob of angina......I guess the answer was "no"............

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,112 posts)
51. Graham had heart surgery in November
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:31 PM
Feb 2022

Sadly it wasn't a transplant. The heart of stone was just protected.

"constrictive pericarditis, inflammation, and hardening of the sac around the heart that compresses the heart and prevents it from working properly.
The surgery involved removing the pericardium, the statement said."

Farmer-Rick

(10,169 posts)
32. I use to pray Trump would get COVID
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

While hundreds of thousands of Americans were getting infected, sick and dying......and he did get COVID and he gave it to thousands of people

I'm not so sure it was a prayer but more like a wish...since I don't believe in any gods. There really isn't any difference between praying and wishing. It's all magical thinking.

Lars39

(26,109 posts)
3. He's a vulture
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 04:03 PM
Feb 2022

Spurring on his anti-American followers to more foul deeds.
I remember it was about a week after Dubya bombed Iraq that Franklin Graham was in Iraq looking around. I still wonder how many U.S. troops died because of his little visit.

PufPuf23

(8,774 posts)
8. Franklin could pray for his followers to pay for Franklin to be hit by lightning,
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 04:22 PM
Feb 2022

pretty much a win-win scenario.

If Franklin does not get hit by lightning, their perceived god at best does not listen to their prayers and is not a just and loving god; and at worse from Franklin's perspective, a smoking ash of Franklin.

Toxic Christianity needs to be addressed if the USA is to survive as a united nation.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
12. Jesus wept.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:00 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:50 PM - Edit history (1)

ON EDIT:

Graham's statement is that we should pray that God will change Putin's heart and move away from war. This statement was entirely appropriate.

I don't like the guy but even a blind hog finds an acorn now and then.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
23. Thanks for the link - I suspected it was something more along these lines.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:34 PM
Feb 2022
Pray for President Putin today. This may sound like a strange request, but we need to pray that God would work in his heart so that war could be avoided at all cost. May God give wisdom to the leaders involved in these talks & negotiations, as well as those advising them.


I'm not a fan of Franklin by any means, but at least let's not take his words out of context.

Ex Lurker

(3,813 posts)
53. I tried to alert for abuse
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:41 PM
Feb 2022

but this didn't fit into any of the categories. There should be on for "false or misleading information"

llmart

(15,536 posts)
33. So, if Putin doesn't "change his heart"...
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

what will be their rationalization for their God not hearing their prayers?

I'm sure there'll be one. There always is when prayers aren't answered.

AllTooEasy

(1,260 posts)
45. God Answers ALL prayers, and sometimes the answer is...
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:36 PM
Feb 2022

“NO”

maybe even “Hell No!”

The consequences of Free Will are sometimes a bitch! Unfortunately Putin has Free Will too. I just wish someone close to Putin would use their Free Will to….well, I’ll exercise my free will and won’t say it, because some ultra-pacifist DUer will exercise their free will and flag me, again.

TomSlick

(11,098 posts)
49. I should have looked behind the thread title before reacting.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:58 PM
Feb 2022

Praying for Putin to back away from war is appropriate. I assumed the worst about Graham based on my dislike for the man.

I was wrong.

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
55. So go back and edit it.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:36 PM
Feb 2022

You can edit it to keep this from being misinformation by adding that you were wrong and posting the correction.

I'm no fan of either person, but I'm even less a fan of disinformation.

3catwoman3

(23,975 posts)
18. As someone who was born in 1951 and grew up...
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:22 PM
Feb 2022

...doing duck-and-cover drills, and hearing my mother blame the Communists/Russians for pretty much everything bad in the world, including dust bunnies under the beds (slight exaggeration here, but not much), I have great difficulty understanding why any American would be rooting for Putin.

Botany

(70,503 posts)
19. Last summer I was in north central VA and I left..
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:22 PM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sat Feb 19, 2022, 07:11 PM - Edit history (1)

.. with the thought that Christian Evangelicals were one of the biggest threats to America. They smile and talk about being "blessed" but in reality they are black hearted bastards who think their "sky God" makes them superior to others, that the Confederacy was really,
God's army, and that Trump was a sign of God's love for them because nothing tastes as sweet as a liberal's tears.

electric_blue68

(14,891 posts)
59. There actually are Liberal Christian Evangelicals...
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 06:16 AM
Feb 2022

I occasionally would hear one talking to a radio host on Air America.

DFW

(54,372 posts)
22. At least, the Republicans and their followers are finally being forced to show their true allegiance
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:29 PM
Feb 2022

And it is NOT to the United States.

KS Toronado

(17,230 posts)
24. If Franklin Graham wants christians to pray for Putin
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:36 PM
Feb 2022

when will the rest of the evangelicals fall in step? And will the repug party then have to join
in on account of being the religious party with family values and need to support them?

rurallib

(62,413 posts)
42. I think Franklin has already gauged to feelings of the evagelicals
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:23 PM
Feb 2022

and other so-called Christians and decided to fall in line with them.

paleotn

(17,912 posts)
29. Only good thing about Junior Graham....
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

he's not operating under the facade his father did. Billy Graham was just as much a piece of shit as his son. Liars, cheats and scoundrels for gaaawwwwd.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
30. Total misrepresentation. Graham did not say this.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 05:47 PM
Feb 2022

It takes 3 seconds or less to go to Facebook and see what he actually said.

Pray for President Putin. This may sound like a strange request, and I might get some angry comments, but we need to pray that God would work in his heart so that war—and the loss of thousands of lives—could be avoided at all cost. May God give wisdom to the leaders involved in these talks and negotiations, as well as those advising them. Our prayers might make the difference between life and death.

https://www.facebook.com/FranklinGraham



Yeah, Graham is a skunk but lets keep it real.

groundloop

(11,518 posts)
37. Too bad there's not an alert category for false information
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:07 PM
Feb 2022

I despise the right wing for taking everything said by Democrats out of context, we don't need to do that here. There's plenty of legitimate issues to despise righties for without making stuff up.

musclecar6

(1,686 posts)
36. Wait ......... What ?
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:01 PM
Feb 2022


Isn’t Franklin Graham one of those evangelicals that believes “ Grab em by the pussy Don” never makes a false step. Now he wants us to pray for another megalomaniac like the Orange Nazi !?!?!?! Sheesh.

keopeli

(3,515 posts)
40. Twitter posting is NOT the news. Please, this is what got us into our mess in the first place.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:17 PM
Feb 2022

Don't believe anything you hear and only half of what you read. - quote by my mom.

Still, I believe Frank did this to get clicks. You don't usually call for prayers for the perpetrator. You usually pray for the victim. This is likely slight of hand, knowing it would get lots of clicks. Frank is certainly immoral, but he's not dumb.

thinkingagain

(906 posts)
41. Don't like graham but there is more to the tweet we shouldn't spread musinformation
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 06:18 PM
Feb 2022

Other person tweets explain better than I


Grand Masker Kushibo, MPH
@kushibo
Replying to
@rexzane1
Not true. It is literally that a war will be avoided.


Franklin Graham

Feb 18
Pray for President Putin today. This may sound like a strange request, but we need to pray that God would work in his heart so that war could be avoided at all cost. May God give wisdom to the leaders involved in these talks & negotiations, as well as those advising them.

& then

Grand Masker Kushibo, MPH
@kushibo
Replying to @TeaPainUSA
Far be it for me to ever sing the praises of the FauXian that is Franklin Graham, but his words are being taken completely out of context. H

ShazzieB

(16,390 posts)
50. I agree.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 07:25 PM
Feb 2022

I was raised a Southern Baptist, which is basically old school evangelical Christianity, and I can assure you that praying for world leaders to be guided in their decisions or (as in this case) praying for someone's "heart and mind" to be changed so that they see the error of their ways is absolutely nothing new. Whether this has any effect is a whole separate conversation. All I am saying is that there is nothing new, shocking, or treasonous about this.

Prayer is a HUGE thing in these people's lives, and they pray about everything and "for" everyone. All. The. Damned. Time. It's like that Geico commercial says: It's what they do. Prayer is a very BFD to them. Whatever is on their minds, they pray about it, and the looming thread of war in Ukraine is certainly something that is weighing on a lot of people's minds right now.

I realize the whole concept of asking God to make things better sounds silly and childish to a lot of people, but that's a whole separate issue and, imo, neither nor there. The point is that it should not be shocking to anyone when an evangelical preacher tells his followers to prayer for someone like Putin.

Personally, I can't stand Franklin Graham. I think he's flat, dead wrong about a lot of things, and he represents a brand of Christianity that I consider to be toxic in many ways. Anyone who wants to tear a strip off of him when it comes to his anti-LGBTQ+ views, his toxic misogyny, etc., is more than welcome to do so, afaic. But the idea that his asking people to pray for Putin neans he's some sort of pro-Putin traitor is just plain silly. I don't think he wants Ukraine to be invaded any more than we do. He's just telling his people to do what they would do in response to any problem, large or small: pray about it and pray for the people involved. This is s.o.p. for those folks, and people need to quit reading things into this that aren't there and blowing it all out of proportion.

sky_masterson

(416 posts)
52. I miss Republican classic.
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 08:38 PM
Feb 2022

When Russia was an enemy to them and they put US interest first.
Back in the before time, in the long long ago.

Raine

(30,540 posts)
58. I imagine the intent is to pray that Putin comes to his senses
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 05:40 AM
Feb 2022

and does the decent thing by leaving Ukraine alone. 🤔

hippywife

(22,767 posts)
63. You've been told that these tweets are not accurate more than 12 hours ago.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:55 PM
Feb 2022

As much as I despise these two people, these tweets are inaccurate, inflammatory and this posts makes you and DU look ignorant. Please update this to correct the record.

ornotna

(10,800 posts)
66. Scumbag traitor can kiss my ass
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:34 PM
Feb 2022

Pray for the Russian not the President of the United States? What a waste of skin.

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