Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:07 PM
wnylib (17,268 posts)
Trucker caravan planned for DC.
Dates for starting the convoy vary from late February to early March. They are putting on an image of simply opposing authoritarianism in government, which they say means mandates regarding masks and vaccinations.
But we know they are RW extremist Trump supporters who hope to disrupt the nation's business in DC and to challenge Biden on coping with it. After Ottawa and Jan 6, can we trust these people to act as peaceful protesters, or should we be wary of them arriving armed as they did in Canada? I believe that they should never be allowed inside DC to wreak havoc and paralyze the city with trucks and threats to businesses, citizens, lawmakers, and government employees, both elected and non elected. So how should they be stopped? https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/peoples-convoy-truckers-reportedly-heading-dc-mandate-protest-1679678%3famp=1
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wnylib | Feb 2022 | OP |
dalton99a | Feb 2022 | #1 | |
I_UndergroundPanther | Feb 2022 | #2 | |
wnylib | Feb 2022 | #3 | |
Deuxcents | Feb 2022 | #4 | |
wnylib | Feb 2022 | #5 | |
electric_blue68 | Feb 2022 | #11 | |
The Jungle 1 | Feb 2022 | #6 | |
haele | Feb 2022 | #9 | |
Irish_Dem | Feb 2022 | #18 | |
Buns_of_Fire | Feb 2022 | #10 | |
BlueIdaho | Feb 2022 | #7 | |
wnylib | Feb 2022 | #14 | |
MichMan | Feb 2022 | #8 | |
Angleae | Feb 2022 | #13 | |
MichMan | Feb 2022 | #17 | |
Crunchy Frog | Feb 2022 | #12 | |
wnylib | Feb 2022 | #15 | |
Cha | Feb 2022 | #16 |
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:13 PM
dalton99a (74,328 posts)
1. Treat them like terrorists.
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:16 PM
I_UndergroundPanther (11,640 posts)
2. Very
Agressive policing and trucks confiscated and scrapped. Tear gas.Anyone pull a gun to shoot someone,shoot them and arrest them.
No mercy. After all they are a bunch of cowards after seeing some jackass shot,they'll Run away. If any try to "defend the convoy"take them down arrest them,use what works, tow the trucks impound them and sell them for scrap. Make them take a bus home. And make them pay lots of fines,go to jail,lose thier trucks. And dont give a shit about thier feelings or thier "cause". Because THEY are fucking TERRORISTS that's why. |
Response to I_UndergroundPanther (Reply #2)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:25 PM
wnylib (17,268 posts)
3. I agree that they are using a form of
terrorism.
The response needs to be firm, but also needs to result in as little violence as possible in order to protect innocent bystanders and to avoid giving these people an excuse to escalate to the civil war that they want. When truckers tried to block the Peace Bridge between Buffalo and Canada, officials on both sides of the border blocked the truckers' access to the bridge with snow plows. The attempt then fizzled out. I think they should be blocked from access to DC for starters. |
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:25 PM
Deuxcents (10,073 posts)
4. Detour them before they arrive
Confiscate and impound their vehicles to a destination, fine them and throw em jail. Get serious with these people.
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Response to Deuxcents (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 09:35 PM
wnylib (17,268 posts)
5. I like that kind of response.
They are saying they expect 1000 truckers, maybe more that they pick up on the way. That's a lot of people to block and arrest. But we need to be prepared to do that.
I'd like to also see Biden or a spokesperson announce publicly in advance that the caravan protest is illegal. It will be because I am certain that they will not be granted a permit to bring 1000 trucks into DC. So they will be notified in advance. They can be given an option to have a protest on foot, on the condition that all trucks are left outside the city and both trucks and people are checked first for weapons. If they agree, then they are legitimate protesters. If they refuse, then they are potential terrorists or insurrectionists and should be arrested and their trucks impounded. Meantime, they can cause trouble and domestic unrest in their travel across the country. If they stick to red states on the route, they will get no opposition and probably a lot of help. |
Response to wnylib (Reply #5)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:53 PM
electric_blue68 (10,899 posts)
11. I like your thinking...
what nightmare for DC. (anywhere, that's purple to blue).
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Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:05 PM
The Jungle 1 (3,843 posts)
6. So how should they be stopped?
Flat tires happen.
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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:35 PM
haele (11,817 posts)
9. So does the Beltway loop.
I doubt there's enough truck owner/operators who will be able to make it to DC from even halfway across the country without a significant amount of up-front funding because most aren't going to have enough money in hand to pay to get their rigs to DC in the first place.
Since grifters are running the show, they won't see enough to make up for losing their insurance and potentially their CDLs with this stunt. Of course, there will be some idiots. But not as many as there are members of the 101st Twitter battalion who will be there in spirit... Haele |
Response to haele (Reply #9)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:16 AM
Irish_Dem (35,505 posts)
18. I thought the Ottawa convoy was funded by wealthy GOP leaders/activists?
So money for a siege here in the US should not be a problem?
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Response to The Jungle 1 (Reply #6)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:49 PM
Buns_of_Fire (16,024 posts)
10. "Hello, Acme Spike Strip Company?..."
Those tires ain't cheap, either.
It's nice that they're making such a big deal of their route and itinerary. It'll give all the legit Owner/Operators a chance to adjust their schedules and routes to avoid the whole mess. |
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:17 PM
BlueIdaho (12,987 posts)
7. They better hurry up
Or the mandates will all be gone before they get there.
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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #7)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:07 AM
wnylib (17,268 posts)
14. LOL. So true. OTOH, they might
run into weather problems driving across the Midwest in March. March starts tornado season. There is also a chance of a big, late season snowstorm unless they stick to a southern route, which is more tornado prone.
As drivers, they should be aware of weather hazards, but it could cost them some time and money. |
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sat Feb 19, 2022, 11:32 PM
MichMan (8,995 posts)
8. Block all truck traffic in and out of DC for the next month
Pretty extreme and will inconvenience a lot of people, but that would prevent it.
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Response to MichMan (Reply #8)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:03 AM
Angleae (4,089 posts)
13. If that happens, all stores in DC will have bare shelves withing a week.
Response to Angleae (Reply #13)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:35 AM
MichMan (8,995 posts)
17. There are multiple posts above mine saying essentially the same thing
" Trucks confiscated and scapped"
"Detour them" "Acme Spike strips" "I think they should be blocked from DC for starters" "Head it off before it starts" Wouldn't any of those have the same effect? |
Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:02 AM
Crunchy Frog (26,311 posts)
12. They need to head this off, otherwise they'll never get them out.
They should deploy the National Guard and use tanks IMO.
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Response to Crunchy Frog (Reply #12)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:13 AM
wnylib (17,268 posts)
15. Totally agree with your first statement.
They must never be allowed to enter - or to linger outside surrounding DC and disrupting incoming and outgoing traffic. Once inside DC, they would be much harder to get out. Plus, when mob mentality takes over, who knows what could happen? They will no doubt be toting guns with a store of ammunition in their trucks. It would be like letting a Trojan Horse inside the city.
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Response to wnylib (Original post)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 12:23 AM
Cha (283,860 posts)
16. Yes and I would like
/DC Coppers to be Ready!
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