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douchebag dad throws fit about having to wear mask on ski lift while his kids watch (Original Post) orleans Feb 2022 OP
Those poor little kids! ShazzieB Feb 2022 #1
So, he's voluntarily wearing a helmet to protect his head, a jacket to protect Cha Feb 2022 #2
Don't think he ever got on airlift. secondwind Feb 2022 #3
I'm so curious.. how did it Cha Feb 2022 #22
I think this guy is a fool, but the people restraining him Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #4
He literally physically pushed past Security Guards and then swung at one of the Guards. Hassin Bin Sober Feb 2022 #6
And lets be honest here wearing a mask on a ski lift is particularly stupid. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #7
I agree. The dad is an asshole, but if you're getting on the lift with members of your Vinca Feb 2022 #8
Yeah, I agree PatSeg Feb 2022 #14
You're supposed to wear the mask while lined up to get on robbob Feb 2022 #35
Okay, that makes sense PatSeg Feb 2022 #36
Yes, a ski lift of all things. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #11
They likely don't set the rules CrackityJones75 Feb 2022 #12
You get paired with random people on the lift at times Blue_Adept Feb 2022 #18
TY.. also it was noted he agreed to the rule when Cha Feb 2022 #23
I don't agree with "they carried their enforcement too far" rockfordfile Feb 2022 #29
Well, I guess we'll have to disagree. Haggard Celine Feb 2022 #31
Just like requiring shoes to be worn in a buffet. Who is going to put their feet in the food? Midnight Writer Feb 2022 #16
a critical part of science is following the rules and being brave by setting an example cadoman Feb 2022 #17
No. Sorry. There is zero scientific reason to wear a mask on a ski lift. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #19
no, sorry, here is the science since you appear to be confused by misinformation cadoman Feb 2022 #20
Do you ski? Cuthbert Allgood Feb 2022 #28
If it wasn't outside with 40 mile and our winds I could buy it cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #32
You wear the mask while in line, which can involve close proximity robbob Feb 2022 #33
Even if innocent, who in their right mind thinks that... Silent3 Feb 2022 #5
Who in their right minds thinks that videos of a man being assaulted over a mask alphafemale Feb 2022 #25
Are you worried about elections in Canada now? n/t Silent3 Feb 2022 #27
That pos assaulted the security guards. He should've gotten the shit knocked out of him rockfordfile Feb 2022 #30
Hmm. But should they have knocked the shit out of him there or Hortensis Feb 2022 #34
Isn't a ski lift by it's very necessity outside? alphafemale Feb 2022 #9
This happened in Canada. Nt Horse with no Name Feb 2022 #10
But the people on the lift are within 6 feet of each other. tinrobot Feb 2022 #21
6-Minute Video here Blue_Adept Feb 2022 #13
TY! Blue Mountain's Policy.. Cha Feb 2022 #24
I wonder how history Tickle Feb 2022 #15
This fits like tight underwear AntivaxHunters Feb 2022 #26
thanks for this picture orleans Feb 2022 #37
Thank you AntivaxHunters Feb 2022 #38

ShazzieB

(16,281 posts)
1. Those poor little kids!
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 04:01 AM
Feb 2022

What a colossal douchebag. Dude, I've got news for you: your freeDUMB to go maskless does NOT trump a private business's right to set their own requirements for how you have to behave to be allowed on THEIR property.

Pinhead.

Cha

(296,853 posts)
2. So, he's voluntarily wearing a helmet to protect his head, a jacket to protect
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 04:17 AM
Feb 2022




RT TY... Important points!

Oh yeah, does anyone know where they were trying to take him? Was it on the chair lift to go down the mountain?

Cha

(296,853 posts)
22. I'm so curious.. how did it
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 04:27 PM
Feb 2022

ever get resolved? Hopefully he couldn't snowboard without following their Rules!

TY

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
4. I think this guy is a fool, but the people restraining him
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 05:54 AM
Feb 2022

did not handle the situation well. He could easily have put on a piece of cloth to satisfy the people working there. Not that those little pieces of cloth most of the people there were wearing would protect them or anyone else. If he'd wanted to, he could have discarded the mask as he skied down the mountain.

But those security people totally overreacted to the guy. They made a big scene instead of pulling him aside and having a conversation with him. If he still refused to wear the mask, they could have told him they were throwing him out of the hotel and the resort and were going to get the police involved. That's usually enough to get someone to comply without having a brawl in front of the children.

But getting back to the masks, people who are wearing little cloth masks aren't protecting themselves or anyone else from the virus. They just make people feel better. If you're exposed to Covid, a little mask of that sort isn't going to protect you. All of this back-and-forth about masks is just fucking stupid. It boils down to politics, and public health should be a greater concern than stupid politics. Unless people start wearing N95 masks all the time, they aren't really doing themselves any good or helping to keep others safe. Most of the mask-wearing I see is pointless. There's a reason why they're lifting the mask mandates all over the country.

Hassin Bin Sober

(26,315 posts)
6. He literally physically pushed past Security Guards and then swung at one of the Guards.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:21 AM
Feb 2022

Why are you assuming there was no previous conversation? The presence of security on scene kind of shows there was conversation as security doesn’t operate the lifts.

Not to mention how many dozens of people were dangling in the breeze on the lift while this asshole was making his “statement”?

Security physically restraining and removing him was completely justified.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
7. And lets be honest here wearing a mask on a ski lift is particularly stupid.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:29 AM
Feb 2022

I am not defending the guy. You follow the rules of the resort you are at.

Whoever thought up and is still enforcing a mask on ski lift rule, however, is not really dealing with reality.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
8. I agree. The dad is an asshole, but if you're getting on the lift with members of your
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:32 AM
Feb 2022

family and you're outdoors with lots of space between you and the other riders, I don't see the point of wearing a mask.

PatSeg

(47,280 posts)
14. Yeah, I agree
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 11:08 AM
Feb 2022

Wearing a mask on a ski-lift in winter doesn't seem like a high priority, but he was clearly being a jerk more no good reason. Meanwhile, a mask would have helped keep his face warm. It looks like he was just looking for a fight.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
35. You're supposed to wear the mask while lined up to get on
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:16 PM
Feb 2022

Lined up in crowded spaces with hundreds of other people, all breathing hard. As soon as you’re on the lift you are free to lower your mask.

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
11. Yes, a ski lift of all things.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 10:40 AM
Feb 2022

It seems absurd. He was a fool for making a big deal of it, even if it was a stupid rule. But they carried their enforcement too far, as well. It really became a pissing contest before it was all over. I don't think anybody came out looking better from this altercation. It kind of diminished both sides, it seems to me. The whole thing was just dumb.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
12. They likely don't set the rules
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 10:50 AM
Feb 2022

And it may br possible that if they don’t enforce the rules they get shut down.

Blue_Adept

(6,393 posts)
18. You get paired with random people on the lift at times
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:55 PM
Feb 2022

Which is why the mask is mandatory, just like in the line where you're close to other people.

rockfordfile

(8,698 posts)
29. I don't agree with "they carried their enforcement too far"
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:08 PM
Feb 2022

They should've knocked the shit out of him. The pos clearly knew the rules and just wanted to cause a problem.

Haggard Celine

(16,835 posts)
31. Well, I guess we'll have to disagree.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:23 PM
Feb 2022

If a bunch of cops had done that to someone, people around here would be going crazy. As they should. They did a poor job of deescalating that conflict. Usually you see that kind of thing at a bar or from someone trying to evade arrest, not at a ski lift with the subject's children watching. The guy was at fault for not complying with the mask rule, but security didn't have to react that way.

Midnight Writer

(21,717 posts)
16. Just like requiring shoes to be worn in a buffet. Who is going to put their feet in the food?
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:45 PM
Feb 2022

I doubt there are many documented cases of barefoot people spreading disease at a restaurant of any kind. Bare feet are a beautiful, natural part of God's creation, and they should not be banned anywhere.

cadoman

(792 posts)
17. a critical part of science is following the rules and being brave by setting an example
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022

It's not for us to decide if a rule is "stupid" or violates our "freedumbs".

If the policy is in place, you can trust that it was informed by scientific consensus. If you're not a scientist with accredited expertise on this subject, basically you need to stay in your fucking lane.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
19. No. Sorry. There is zero scientific reason to wear a mask on a ski lift.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 02:43 PM
Feb 2022

This is an example of somebody setting a rule without thinking.

If I was to guess they want masks on all public transport and consider a Ski Lift public transport.

Doesn't make the specific application of the rule any less stupid of void of any scientific basis.

cadoman

(792 posts)
20. no, sorry, here is the science since you appear to be confused by misinformation
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 03:54 PM
Feb 2022
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/travelers/face-masks-public-transportation.html

"CDC continues to recommend wearing of masks in these areas by people who are not fully vaccinated."

And since there is no way to know who is fully vaccinated due to permanent mask mandates and vaccination passports still being a work in progress, it is perfectly within the bounds of science to mandate everyone wear masks in public transportation areas, of which a ski lift would be considered one.

No apologies needed. Misinformation has affected all of us. Thankfully we can always reach out to science--as embodied by our governments--for the truth.

Also we need to keep in mind that while scientific consensus is reached instantaneously, public policy could drag by several weeks. That is, this ski resort could have been running policy based on the scientific consensus as it stood several days or weeks back.

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
28. Do you ski?
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:59 AM
Feb 2022

I have had to sit within 2 feet of someone I don't know for an over 5 minute ride. Shouldn't we be masked since we aren't in the same houseshold?

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
32. If it wasn't outside with 40 mile and our winds I could buy it
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:49 PM
Feb 2022

I'm vaccinated and boosted I'm not concerned particularly about catching covid particularly outside.

I have no problem with masks on busses and subways. A ski lift of just seems silly.

robbob

(3,522 posts)
33. You wear the mask while in line, which can involve close proximity
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:09 PM
Feb 2022

to dozens of fellow skiers. Once you’re on the lift, and skiing, you are free to do as you like. I wear glasses, which fog up badly, so as I’m coming in to every lift line I had to remove my gloves, lift up my goggles, remove my glasses, lift up my mask, and shuffle up to the lift, visually impaired, holding onto my gloves, poles, and glasses desperately trying to avoid dropping something, and then reassemble the entire outfit as I rode up the lift.

Silent3

(15,148 posts)
5. Even if innocent, who in their right mind thinks that...
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 06:13 AM
Feb 2022

…throwing a fit like that, pushing and shoving security personnel or police officers, and demanding they don’t touch you, is really going to lead to them backing off and saying, “Hey, you’re right! We shouldn’t touch you!”?

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
25. Who in their right minds thinks that videos of a man being assaulted over a mask
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 08:45 AM
Feb 2022

Is a winning election strategy?

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
34. Hmm. But should they have knocked the shit out of him there or
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:11 PM
Feb 2022

first dragged him out of sight so the kids and others out for a nice day didn't have to watch? These procedures should be thought out in advance. If deterrence is a priority, I'd think right there.

 

alphafemale

(18,497 posts)
9. Isn't a ski lift by it's very necessity outside?
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:33 AM
Feb 2022

This is not a hill I am willing to lose an election over.

Keep this up and 2022 and 2024 and the entire noble notion of this experiment of democracy is lost.

tinrobot

(10,886 posts)
21. But the people on the lift are within 6 feet of each other.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 04:04 PM
Feb 2022

So, there's some logic to it.

Last year in the US, ski resorts were pretty strict about masks on lifts. Not much of an issue, because most already wear masks to keep their faces warm.

Cha

(296,853 posts)
24. TY! Blue Mountain's Policy..
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 05:00 PM
Feb 2022
Blue Mountain's policy is that "Face masks / coverings are recommended at all times and required in lift lines and on the chairlift." A call to the resort revealed that they have set up an email to handle the slew of inquiries they received on Friday about the video, which is when it emerged on social media.

If there were a "Medical Exemption it would have been wise to have it on him.

Tickle

(2,488 posts)
15. I wonder how history
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 11:26 AM
Feb 2022

will report this in 20, 40 years from now? Will our grandchildren read about people being thrown off of buses and kicked out of public places while being shamed by others . I hope I’m alive to read about it

orleans

(34,042 posts)
37. thanks for this picture
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:38 PM
Feb 2022

i was gonna say 'welcome to du' (because of your low post count) so i checked out your profile & i saw you've been around here for over a year!

anyway--saw your twitter link and briefly looked at your twitter feed. i'll have to go back and check it out when i'm not so tired. thanks for posting. hope you don't mind that i linked to your twitter page.


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