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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forumsdouchebag dad throws fit about having to wear mask on ski lift while his kids watch
meanwhile, the replies to this tweet are pretty good
Link to tweet
ShazzieB
(16,281 posts)What a colossal douchebag. Dude, I've got news for you: your freeDUMB to go maskless does NOT trump a private business's right to set their own requirements for how you have to behave to be allowed on THEIR property.
Pinhead.
Cha
(296,853 posts)Link to tweet
RT TY... Important points!
Oh yeah, does anyone know where they were trying to take him? Was it on the chair lift to go down the mountain?
secondwind
(16,903 posts)Cha
(296,853 posts)ever get resolved? Hopefully he couldn't snowboard without following their Rules!
TY
Haggard Celine
(16,835 posts)did not handle the situation well. He could easily have put on a piece of cloth to satisfy the people working there. Not that those little pieces of cloth most of the people there were wearing would protect them or anyone else. If he'd wanted to, he could have discarded the mask as he skied down the mountain.
But those security people totally overreacted to the guy. They made a big scene instead of pulling him aside and having a conversation with him. If he still refused to wear the mask, they could have told him they were throwing him out of the hotel and the resort and were going to get the police involved. That's usually enough to get someone to comply without having a brawl in front of the children.
But getting back to the masks, people who are wearing little cloth masks aren't protecting themselves or anyone else from the virus. They just make people feel better. If you're exposed to Covid, a little mask of that sort isn't going to protect you. All of this back-and-forth about masks is just fucking stupid. It boils down to politics, and public health should be a greater concern than stupid politics. Unless people start wearing N95 masks all the time, they aren't really doing themselves any good or helping to keep others safe. Most of the mask-wearing I see is pointless. There's a reason why they're lifting the mask mandates all over the country.
Hassin Bin Sober
(26,315 posts)Why are you assuming there was no previous conversation? The presence of security on scene kind of shows there was conversation as security doesnt operate the lifts.
Not to mention how many dozens of people were dangling in the breeze on the lift while this asshole was making his statement?
Security physically restraining and removing him was completely justified.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)I am not defending the guy. You follow the rules of the resort you are at.
Whoever thought up and is still enforcing a mask on ski lift rule, however, is not really dealing with reality.
Vinca
(50,237 posts)family and you're outdoors with lots of space between you and the other riders, I don't see the point of wearing a mask.
PatSeg
(47,280 posts)Wearing a mask on a ski-lift in winter doesn't seem like a high priority, but he was clearly being a jerk more no good reason. Meanwhile, a mask would have helped keep his face warm. It looks like he was just looking for a fight.
robbob
(3,522 posts)Lined up in crowded spaces with hundreds of other people, all breathing hard. As soon as youre on the lift you are free to lower your mask.
PatSeg
(47,280 posts)Haggard Celine
(16,835 posts)It seems absurd. He was a fool for making a big deal of it, even if it was a stupid rule. But they carried their enforcement too far, as well. It really became a pissing contest before it was all over. I don't think anybody came out looking better from this altercation. It kind of diminished both sides, it seems to me. The whole thing was just dumb.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)And it may br possible that if they dont enforce the rules they get shut down.
Blue_Adept
(6,393 posts)Which is why the mask is mandatory, just like in the line where you're close to other people.
Cha
(296,853 posts)rockfordfile
(8,698 posts)They should've knocked the shit out of him. The pos clearly knew the rules and just wanted to cause a problem.
Haggard Celine
(16,835 posts)If a bunch of cops had done that to someone, people around here would be going crazy. As they should. They did a poor job of deescalating that conflict. Usually you see that kind of thing at a bar or from someone trying to evade arrest, not at a ski lift with the subject's children watching. The guy was at fault for not complying with the mask rule, but security didn't have to react that way.
Midnight Writer
(21,717 posts)I doubt there are many documented cases of barefoot people spreading disease at a restaurant of any kind. Bare feet are a beautiful, natural part of God's creation, and they should not be banned anywhere.
cadoman
(792 posts)It's not for us to decide if a rule is "stupid" or violates our "freedumbs".
If the policy is in place, you can trust that it was informed by scientific consensus. If you're not a scientist with accredited expertise on this subject, basically you need to stay in your fucking lane.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)This is an example of somebody setting a rule without thinking.
If I was to guess they want masks on all public transport and consider a Ski Lift public transport.
Doesn't make the specific application of the rule any less stupid of void of any scientific basis.
cadoman
(792 posts)"CDC continues to recommend wearing of masks in these areas by people who are not fully vaccinated."
And since there is no way to know who is fully vaccinated due to permanent mask mandates and vaccination passports still being a work in progress, it is perfectly within the bounds of science to mandate everyone wear masks in public transportation areas, of which a ski lift would be considered one.
No apologies needed. Misinformation has affected all of us. Thankfully we can always reach out to science--as embodied by our governments--for the truth.
Also we need to keep in mind that while scientific consensus is reached instantaneously, public policy could drag by several weeks. That is, this ski resort could have been running policy based on the scientific consensus as it stood several days or weeks back.
Cuthbert Allgood
(4,907 posts)I have had to sit within 2 feet of someone I don't know for an over 5 minute ride. Shouldn't we be masked since we aren't in the same houseshold?
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)I'm vaccinated and boosted I'm not concerned particularly about catching covid particularly outside.
I have no problem with masks on busses and subways. A ski lift of just seems silly.
robbob
(3,522 posts)to dozens of fellow skiers. Once youre on the lift, and skiing, you are free to do as you like. I wear glasses, which fog up badly, so as Im coming in to every lift line I had to remove my gloves, lift up my goggles, remove my glasses, lift up my mask, and shuffle up to the lift, visually impaired, holding onto my gloves, poles, and glasses desperately trying to avoid dropping something, and then reassemble the entire outfit as I rode up the lift.
Silent3
(15,148 posts)throwing a fit like that, pushing and shoving security personnel or police officers, and demanding they dont touch you, is really going to lead to them backing off and saying, Hey, youre right! We shouldnt touch you!?
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Is a winning election strategy?
Silent3
(15,148 posts)rockfordfile
(8,698 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)first dragged him out of sight so the kids and others out for a nice day didn't have to watch? These procedures should be thought out in advance. If deterrence is a priority, I'd think right there.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)This is not a hill I am willing to lose an election over.
Keep this up and 2022 and 2024 and the entire noble notion of this experiment of democracy is lost.
Horse with no Name
(33,956 posts)tinrobot
(10,886 posts)So, there's some logic to it.
Last year in the US, ski resorts were pretty strict about masks on lifts. Not much of an issue, because most already wear masks to keep their faces warm.
Cha
(296,853 posts)If there were a "Medical Exemption it would have been wise to have it on him.
Tickle
(2,488 posts)will report this in 20, 40 years from now? Will our grandchildren read about people being thrown off of buses and kicked out of public places while being shamed by others . I hope Im alive to read about it
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)orleans
(34,042 posts)i was gonna say 'welcome to du' (because of your low post count) so i checked out your profile & i saw you've been around here for over a year!
anyway--saw your twitter link and briefly looked at your twitter feed. i'll have to go back and check it out when i'm not so tired. thanks for posting. hope you don't mind that i linked to your twitter page.
https://twitter.com/AntivaxHunters
AntivaxHunters
(3,234 posts)Don't mind at all that you did that and appreciate it greatly.