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Ohio Joe

(21,722 posts)
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 06:22 PM Feb 2022

So... Durham may have a bit of a conflict going on

This is from over at emptywheel and is referring to Durham's comments that "If third parties or members of the media have overstated, understated, or otherwise misinterpreted facts contained in the Government’s Motion, that does not in any way undermine the valid reasons for the Government’s inclusion of this information.". Wellll... Seems like it was not third parties. From the article:

These are not “third parties.” These are:

As I laid out, one of the key perpetrators of the false claims — including the false claims (1) that Hillary paid Rodney Joffe, (2) that Joffe had “infiltrated” the White House, and (3) Joffe had done so when Trump was President — was Kash Patel, the originator of this entire line of inquiry in December 2017, and someone who for years had means to learn that those claims were false.

John Ratcliffe, whom Durham was meeting rather than interviewing Hillary staffers who could substantiate or debunk his accusations that Michael Sussmann was coordinating with the campaign, made these unsubstantiated claims in a TV appearance earlier this week:

There was a “Hillary Clinton campaign plan to falsely accuse Donald Trump of collusion with Russia”
Rodney Joffe used DNS data “for an unlawful purpose”
Sussmann “pitched” information “to the FBI as evidence of Trump-Russia connections that simply weren’t true and that the lawyer, Michael Sussmann, and the tech executive knew not to be true”
Donald Trump, who personally nominated John Durham as US Attorney and whose demands for criminal investigations led to Durham’s appointment as Special Counsel, asserted that his “presidency [was] spied on by operatives paid by the Hillary Clinton campaign in an effort to develop a completely fabricated connection to Russia.”

The originator of the allegations against Sussmann
A self-described repeat Durham witness
The man who nominated Durham to be US Attorney and, ultimately, was his boss for almost 3 years
But there’s actually another key player in the effort to magnify Durham’s conflicts filing stunt who is even more central to Durham’s work: One of his most important “witnesses,” Sergei Millian’s twitter account.

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/02/19/john-durham-accuses-one-of-his-key-fact-witnesses-sergei-millians-twitter-account-of-misinterpreting-facts/

All the evidence is laid out and sourced at the link. I suggest you read it. This is some big old bullshit going on here.

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So... Durham may have a bit of a conflict going on (Original Post) Ohio Joe Feb 2022 OP
I don't trust anything coming from John Durham AZProgressive Feb 2022 #1
Or is it Robert Durham? Nevilledog Feb 2022 #2
"oh lord I can't go on..." Ohio Joe Feb 2022 #3
+1, why is the DOJ allowing this nakedly partisan investigation to continue?! uponit7771 Feb 2022 #5
They can't do anything about it, I don't think leftieNanner Feb 2022 #7
can't Biden fire him? Certainly Mueller was always worried about Trump firing him. LymphocyteLover Feb 2022 #9
I thought the special prosecutor act soldierant Feb 2022 #10
You are probably right leftieNanner Feb 2022 #12
Hillary says "malice" and simultaneously Durham says cons are wrong. Fox shut up in an instant Bernardo de La Paz Feb 2022 #4
Durham has nothing LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #6
Lawfare 101 peppertree Feb 2022 #8
That's the formula for the bad guys' success. calimary Feb 2022 #11

AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
1. I don't trust anything coming from John Durham
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 06:28 PM
Feb 2022

The FBI had every reason to investigate Russia as well as Trump which they didn’t even do until he fired Comey.

I don’t GAF about Origins or Oranges of the investigation.

Nevilledog

(50,952 posts)
2. Or is it Robert Durham?
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 06:42 PM
Feb 2022

Trump screws up this douche's name and Q thinks it's a coded message about the Revolutionary War





Tweet text:

Ed Bott
@edbott
I just dropped into a Q-inspired rabbit hole that theorizes that John Durham doesn't actually exist and that Trump is referring to a Revolutionary War-era boatbuilder, Robert Durham. as a coded message that oh lord I can't go on...
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8:16 AM · Feb 13, 2022




Nutters. Every last one.

leftieNanner

(15,051 posts)
7. They can't do anything about it, I don't think
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 08:47 PM
Feb 2022

Barr made Durham a Special Prosecutor and the current DOJ can't boot him.

That's my understanding. Let me know if I'm wrong.

soldierant

(6,776 posts)
10. I thought the special prosecutor act
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:13 PM
Feb 2022

expired years ago, and that's why we can't have one now unless a new act is passed. A soecial counsel - that we can have, Could Durham be that?

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,929 posts)
4. Hillary says "malice" and simultaneously Durham says cons are wrong. Fox shut up in an instant
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 07:26 PM
Feb 2022

If they had continued even when the author of the report (Durham) said they were wrong, it would have been clearcut malice.

peppertree

(21,586 posts)
8. Lawfare 101
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:09 PM
Feb 2022

Throw mud at a polarizing figure (or his/her allies), give it all a vague semblance of truth, get a whored judge/prosecutor/official on board, make sure RW media amplifies it - and your mouth-breathers will come.

calimary

(81,044 posts)
11. That's the formula for the bad guys' success.
Sun Feb 20, 2022, 09:19 PM
Feb 2022

Complicated by the large and seemingly expanding pool of mouth-breathers who want to hear ANYTHING that's not the truth. Because the truth tells them some very unfriendly things.

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