Putin is going to start WW3

[orangecrush]

It won't be confined to Ukraine.

He is throwing down the gauntlet to NATO.

This is not going to end well.

[brooklynite]

1. What evidence do you have that any other country is going to engage militarily?

[PoliticAverse]

2. Why would he want to do that? n/t

[orangecrush]

3. Good question.

I'll guess.

He no longer has a stooge in the White House, knows his networks in the U.S. are going to be rolled up by the FBI, knows that nnow he is going to face retaliation in a big way for the last 4 years of gutting American institutions via Trump, etc. etc. etc., so he is taking a wild gamble before shit comes down on him hard.

Your mileage may vary.

[PoliticAverse]

11. He's only facing possible retaliation for his action now against Ukraine.

There doesn't seem to be any evidence the Biden administration or the F B I is about to take any action against him for any action during the Trump years.

[orangecrush]

34. Trump gutted the CIA

And the State Department, and the FBI.

I would venture to guess that now these institutions are being revitalized.

[Eko]

12. It takes two to tango.

If he invades Ukraine no one else is going to attack him. There will just be sanctions. He will have to do much more than that to start WW3.

[Renew Deal]

50. To realign the world order

He wants to put Russia and China at the top.

[Celerity]

4. No, he isn't going to start WWIII. We live a hell of a lot closer to Russia that most on this board

and we are not engaging in such fearmongering. Putin is a rational, (albeit nefarious) actor, he is not some some suicidal madman.

[orangecrush]

18. Thank you

My intent is not to fearmonger.

There is more than one analyst in the media that I have read that expressed the same concern.

War has a funny way of being unpredictable.

[Demsrule86]

5. Oh please stop. Nothing but opinion...

[orangecrush]

13. This is

A board for discussing opinions.

Or did I take a wrong turn somewhere?

[brooklynite]

22. It is indeed a Board for discussion opinions...

...and throwing out a line saying that WW3 is going to start will generate them.

[Demsrule86]

42. I honestly don't want to offend you but some of these posts...not saying yours...are simply kind

of hysterical. We will not start a war that could destroy the world over Ukraine...we are talking sanctions and punishment...not military actions. As for Putin, he could march into Eastern Europe, he did it before but I sincerely doubt he could hold it especially since he would pretty much be shunned by everyone. And we set a bad precedent in Afghanistan and Iraq too.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. I don't think Putin will be successful if he tried.

He will probably be shot by his own people if it went that far. The oligarchs have had it too good for too long; and the regular people have had it bad for too long, and won't accept worse.

[Hekate]

7. Nah, he just wants the Sudetenland

[orangecrush]

14. ...

[Irish_Dem]

8. He is certainly terrorizing the world.

And most likely enjoying it.

[orangecrush]

16. Got that right

I shudder for the Ukrainians.

[Irish_Dem]

49. I do too.

This is a serious situation and Putin is capable of just about anything right now.

[PortTack]

9. Your opinion..your entitled to it..

[orangecrush]

15. As you are yours

[Bernardo de La Paz]

10. No. It may not end well, but apocalyptic nihilism doesn't serve anybody well, least of all you. . nt

[Demsrule86]

43. Thank you. That is exactly right.

[dwayneb]

17. Start WW3 or another cold war?

I have little doubt that Putin's goal is to attack and control any country not part of NATO at this point.

He already has Belarus and Georgia in his grasp and soon, he will have Ukraine the greatest prize of all.

We will be is a similar situation as we were at the end of the Cold War in 1990, although seven former Soviet nations are now in NATO: Estonia, Latvia and Lithuania, Bulgaria, Romania and Slovakia and Slovenia part of the former Yugoslavia. There is still the island of Russian friendly countries around Serbia and Bosnia. Unlikely he would go for those since they are surrounded by NATO countries.

Putin knows that time is of the essence, he wants to stop the spread of NATO at all costs. You postulate a WW3, but unless Putin tries to acquire a NATO country, that seems unlikely.

Here's the NATO map.

https://www.nato.int/multi/mapgame/images/NATO-MAP.pdf

[orangecrush]

20. Thank you

For a great analysis.

I see nothing there to disagree with.

If all goes down as planned, 100% correct.

There is always a joker in the deck of war, though.

[Orrex]

19. Maybe he'll start a zombie apocalypse and a cataclysmic alien invasion, too.

[orangecrush]

21. I don't think

The Ukrainians would see the humor in that.

[Orrex]

26. Equally, I doubt that they'd see the sense in your OP

[orangecrush]

29. Then don't read it.

Bye!

[Orrex]

33. Don't get me wrong--I love to read Chicken Little posts

Read them? Yes. Take them seriously? No.

Tell you what: If Pooty-Poot's current flexing should happen to result in worldwide nuclear annihilation, I'll owe you a Coke.

[Demsrule86]

44. Well if Putin begins the zombie apocalypse....HE MUST BE STOPPED!!!!!

[Lithos]

23. He is rattling the sabers

Because he is tanking domestically. To do much more would be counterproductive.

[orangecrush]

25. Possibly.

We shall see.

[USALiberal]

24. Nope!! Nt

[orangecrush]

27. Another no vote.

We seem to be about 50/50 here.

[Quixote1818]

28. His country has no money. He will be lucky to do well just in Ukraine alone.

And after all the sanctions they will have even less money.

[orangecrush]

30. A lot of people believed Hitler

Would stop after one country too.

[Quixote1818]

36. With the US being a member of NATO, it would not go well for Russia

[orangecrush]

37. That. Is. Awesome.

Thanks!

[BlackSkimmer]

54. Do some research into the comparison of assets of the US and North Vietnam back in days of yore.

How’d that work out?

[Demsrule86]

45. Putin is not not Hitler...these are different times. I know people love to compare the two...but

it is a completely different situation. We are not going to war period.

[uponit7771]

32. Russia has MAX a one year rainy day fund, after that they're done financially. They have to hit ..

... hard and hit fast and be effective.

All really hard to do when the international community is not backing him

[orangecrush]

38. True.

[neverforget]

31. If it does start, it will be accidentally.

War is chaos and plans go astray as soon as the first bullet is shot but Putin doesn't want WW3

[orangecrush]

35. Agree.

[maryellen99]

39. Sure about that?

Link to tweet

?s=21

[roamer65]

40. President Macron is going to stop it.

My gut tells me he can do it.

[Demsrule86]

46. My gut tells me he can't.

[EndlessWire]

41. It seems to me

that it is a distinct possibility that WW3 could start. I am not sure why this board chooses to ridicule someone who is commenting on what the rest of the world is commenting on. It's pretty hard to know what can be said here, when you are gonna get kicked in the teeth for expressing an honest opinion. I especially object to having such opinion labeled almost routinely as fearmongering. The whole world is afraid right now. It is normal to be nervous, depressed, anxious, and fearful. Normal.

The summit sounds interesting, but I don't see Putin responding in any way. He's waiting for something else to happen, and filling in the time with false hope. I'd love to wake up to find that the world is no longer threatened by Putin.

You know, I recall that Obama met face to face with Putin, and told him that if he did not stop cyber hacking, we would consider it an act of war. Putin has been given enough slack already, and still he gets more.

And, the last thing is, that his government, the lower Duma (as opposed to the upper Duma, equivalent to a fourth floor) apparently supports him and is helping to strategize the whole bloody mess. This is why we can't have nice things.

I think we need to be mindful of this year's election in our own country, and make sure that tRump and his fascist party does not get back in power.

[Demsrule86]

48. We are not going to have WWIII with Russia...and I am shocked that on a Democratic website after

more than 20 years of war...which by the way began when we invaded two countries, we would favor more war. We can't have two nuclear powers engage in a conventional war. It is madness and it won't happen. We can drive Russia into the ground using other methods...

[orangecrush]

51. Who said they favor war?

I don't think I remember posting that.

[Demsrule86]

53. I have seen quite a few post that advocate troops.

[634-5789]

47. Disagree 100%

[orangecrush]

52. I guess

Kamala Harris is wrong?

I agree with her, there is a possibility for this to become a war in Europe.



"We're talking about the potential for war in Europe. I mean, let's really take a moment to understand the significance of what we're talking about," she told reporters in Munich.

She continued: "It's been over 70 years, and through those 70 years ... there has been peace and security. We are talking about the real possibility of war in Europe."


https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/vice-president-kamala-harris-acknowledged-the-real-possibility-of-war-in-europe/ar-AAU6fdb

She didn't stutter.

[SoonerPride]

55. No he is not.

He will invade Ukraine but will not attack any NATO country.