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(31,017 posts)gab13by13
(21,322 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Walleye
(31,017 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)But of course they make sure they themselves are exempt from all laws and rules.
They really do not have respect for anyone or anything but themselves.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)They enjoy watching others suffer, die.
CousinIT
(9,241 posts)sex, pregnancy, procreation, education (they want Dept of Ed abolished) and what is going on with abortion/contraception and what is going on in the schools are the result of decades of them planning and pushing to get the US Constitution tossed out and replaced with THEIR VERSION of the Bible. They want America ruled under a very Sharia-like version of the bible, they want kids indoctrinated, NOT educated -- and women and girls turned into sexual and reproductive slaves.
This has been simmering for a LONG time. NOW it's coming to fruition.
TRUMP amassed behind him these dangerous religious extremists, KKK, MRAs/Incels, Fed society, ALEC et al - funded by billionaires who buy our gov't and want to continue to do so, and want to shut down public schools in favor of private religious ones, abolish IRS, EPA, USPS, Dept of Ed and most of US gov't.
The weight of all those combined forces against Democracy has put massive cracks in its structure, crumbled many parts of it, and we're not long away from it being a pile of rubble for Peter Theil to fly his private plane over. I'm sure some will try to continue calling the US a Democracy. But it won't be in any way, shape, form or fashion.
The fight against this has ranged from utterly absent and oblivious for many decades at worst (because nobody was paying attention and it all operated under the radar until recent decades), to pablum, milquetoast, pantywaist business-as-usual at best today.
It's not enough. It's too little. It's too late.
The media is asleep at the wheel and only seeks (because billionaires own it all) to profit from the entire scene rather than actually reporting on it as a vital service to Democracy. LONG gone are the days when media did investigative journalism, held truth to power, and informed the public. Now we get infotainment, half the story if any truthful part of the story at all, and important context completely excluded. And people vote based on that shit.
Walleye
(31,017 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Yoyoyo77
(267 posts)FM123
(10,053 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)This is what the Movement Conservatives have been working towards all these decades.
Keep women pregnant and in the kitchen. Handmaids all.
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Kind of like Rick Perry not knowing that the nuclear stockpile was under the Department of Energy.
And then becoming Secretary.
Why any woman would want to live in a GOP controlled state is beyond me because they take the brunt of these maniacs.
I am a man with two grown daughters, and I can't believe the future they have in this country.
JHB
(37,159 posts)This is their moon shot, and they all want to be its Niel Armstrong -- they guy whose name will go down in history for accomplishing the impossible.
It doesn't stop at overturning the right to privacy. They're after environmental laws, labor laws, the rulings that decided that Social Security and Medicare were constitutional, they want to overturn all of those.
And the "reasonable" conservatives will support all of that. Individuals might not be fully on board, but those people will knuckle under and go along with the ideological zealots.
Lovie777
(12,257 posts)99.9% of their insane ideals pertain to harming children, women and POC.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,374 posts)the collection baskets..... and Jesus is always broke. Jesus could certainly use help from Dave Ramsey on how to manage money.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)him, perhaps.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)The switch to patriarchal monotheism with themselves set as a hierarchy of go-betweens for the masses to be able to properly and correctly access the deity was *brilliant*.
whathehell
(29,067 posts)was far more complex than that. It's first adherents in Rome were women and slaves, not a political "elite".
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)whathehell
(29,067 posts)needed the approval of a given country's ruling power.
That, however, doesn't mean the religion was "forced" onto a country.
NullTuples
(6,017 posts)Sometimes while studying the history I began to wonder if some of the kings thought they'd be able to use the Church as a tool and ended up instead finding it was the other way around.
Yoyoyo77
(267 posts)After that it was God, emperor rule for the roman empire.
calimary
(81,223 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)We will have to build orphanages again.
Wednesdays
(17,359 posts)That worked out soooo well, didn't it?
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Farmer-Rick
(10,163 posts)They outlawed all abortions and birth control. But parents couldn't afford to feed the excess children and they were put in orphanages by the thousands.
The orphanages were houses of horror. Caregivers were encouraged to beat and torture the children. The country was poor and so electricity, heat and even clothes were frequently denied. Pedophilia ran wild and no child was sparred abuse.
"Under Nicolae Ceaușescu, both abortion and contraception were forbidden. Ceaușescu believed that population growth would lead to economic growth. In October 1966, Decree 770 was enacted, which banned abortion except in cases in which the mother was over forty years of age or already had four children in care. Birth rates especially rose during the years of 1967, 1968 and 1969. By 1977, people were taxed for being childless. Children born in these years are popularly known as decreței (from the diminutive of the Romanian language word "decret", meaning "decree" ) . This increase in the number of births resulted in many children being abandoned in orphanages, which were also occupied by people with disabilities and mental illnesses. Together, these vulnerable groups were subjected to institutionalized neglect, physical and sexual abuse, and drug use to control behaviour."
"Though conditions in orphanages were not uniform, the worst conditions were mostly found in institutions for disabled children. One such example, the Siret children's psychiatric hospital, lacked both medicines and washing facilities, and physical and sexual abuse of children was reported to be common. In another case, the Sighetu Marmației institution for disabled children, the children were often tied to their own beds or dangerously restrained in their own clothing. Because the staff had failed to put clothes on them, the children would spend their day naked and be left sitting in their own feces and urine. Nurses who worked at the institutions were not properly trained, and often abused the children. Dirty water was used for baths, and the children were thrown in three at a time by the staff. Due to the abuse children received from staff, older children learned to beat the younger ones. All children, including girls, had their heads shaved, which made it difficult to differentiate one another. Many had delayed cognitive development, and many did not know how to feed themselves. Physical needs were not met, as many children died of minor illness or injuries such as cataracts or anemia. Many would also starve to death. Physical injuries that had to do with development included fractures that had not healed right, resulting in deformed limbs."
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Romanian_orphans
This is what the American oligarchy has envisioned for workers and average citizens.
You know because the invisible sky daddy wants all that abuse so those damn people know their place at the bottom of the pile.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)the memories of those orphanages.
Farmer-Rick
(10,163 posts)I can't imagine living through it.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Tommymac
(7,263 posts)That is what they have been working for since the 1960's.
Could not do it until Roe was overturned.
The dominoes are falling.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Tied down with pregnancies and children, they had no control or power over their lives.
That is why widespread and available BC changed the lives of women.
Tommymac
(7,263 posts)But they had to get Roe repealed first.
Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)Healthcare, education, voting, etc.
We will be like China and Russia.
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)I have already been reading about women dropping out of the dating/sex scene because they are so tired of the bullshit. It could end up kind of like a modern day Lysistrata type of scenario.
Vinca
(50,269 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)There is always more jaw dropping stuff coming down the pike.
Native
(5,942 posts)Irish_Dem
(47,014 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)their masculinity.
sop
(10,167 posts)musclecar6
(1,686 posts)Lines, I always enjoy the concept of putting people on the Supreme Court or other lifetime federal courts, as if these "noted legal scholars" will make balanced fair decisions. Yes some do, but just look at some of these clowns that go roaring off advancing their biased convoluted logic mantra's. When that happens, all one can do is shake your head and say to yourself, there goes some more assholes and jefkoffs.
sinkingfeeling
(51,448 posts)enslave women.
Frustratedlady
(16,254 posts)Limiting families to 1 or 2 children?
These projections only make them look like fools. Passing those types of bills proves it.
JT45242
(2,266 posts)If you go back to Give. pence and Indiana law , it was very clear that mixed race marriage was equally the target as gay marriage.
These racist fascists have been clear that the goal of the federalist society is an American Taliban state
They also think a month be towards south Africa's apartheid structure would be perfect.
These tweets on are on the money.
orangecrush
(19,546 posts)LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)orangecrush
(19,546 posts)shrike3
(3,583 posts)Nobody listens. I don't even have a dog in this hunt, being beyond child bearing years.
bucolic_frolic
(43,146 posts)intheflow
(28,463 posts)Only available through a pharmacy. Theres a record of who is using it. Would they be able to get that info? Not as it now stands, but the protections in place now could certainly be overturned by the same leadership that wants to overturn Griswold.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)It's effective for treating endometriosis, for example.
What a mess.
homegirl
(1,428 posts)demand from women for tubal ligations!
AngryOldDem
(14,061 posts)
litigating this shit thats doomed to fail.
Just fuck these assholes.
FoxNewsSucks
(10,429 posts)But I'm not, anymore.
Handmaid's Tale is literally a warning of what they are working toward and almost have.
mercuryblues
(14,531 posts)Once you take away a womans right over her own body the rest of her rights arent far behind.
SammyWinstonJack
(44,130 posts)DownriverDem
(6,228 posts)voters wake up? This isn't part of their racist goals. This is about rulings that will hurt us all.
TheFarseer
(9,322 posts)Thats WAY out of the mainstream. Who hears that and says, Case closed, thats who Im voting for. Thats something that I would guess less than 5% of people would agree with and 80% are horrified. Unless someone is really stretching the definition of contraception.
CrispyQ
(36,461 posts)It's already been spoken of in far right circles.
Martin68
(22,794 posts)moondust
(19,977 posts)Old Cynic has long suspected (without proof) that this has always been the working premise of the Vatican and eventually Republicans when it comes to birth control and abortion. It probably stands to reason that some percentage of those forced births will eventually buy into the "holiness" of it all and wind up supporting the "enforcers" with money and votes.
Hekate
(90,667 posts)
will be trashed if this continues. Unless a girl swears celibacy and actually keeps it , forget college, forget a career. Hell, forget finishing high school. Young men not ready for family responsibilities will reinvent that fine old phrase, She tricked me!
Bitter? You betcha.
OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)Hekate
(90,667 posts)OMGWTF
(3,955 posts)They are constantly looking for ways to undermine women. Why? Did they all have horrible mothers?
homegirl
(1,428 posts)adversarial with the introduction of the Birth Control pill in the early 1960's. Women could break loose, be sexual and not pay the price. Then they began to compete for college and university placement, and worst of all for better, higher paying power position in business and politics.
Now, in addition to competing with men of color, poor, spoiled, entitled white guys have to compete with women!
llashram
(6,265 posts)trump thugs. All are.
Texaswitchy
(2,962 posts)When abortion was attacked.
StClone
(11,683 posts)Skittles
(153,156 posts)they desperately want to take us back
Kablooie
(18,631 posts)Making contraception illegal and eliminating the right to privacy.
I haven't thought about the Loving decision but that could go too, making it illegal for people of different races to get married.
It would follow that homosexuality and anything other than the missionary position for married couples will be criminalized once again.
The conservative's middle name is dystopia.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)Assholes!!
A HERETIC I AM
(24,367 posts)The leaders of conservative political ideology today (or what passes for it, anyway) KNOW they are on the losing side demographically and it scares the shit out of them.
They insist this has to be a majority white, Christian nation, and in order to maintain that, they have to make sure as many white babies are born as possible.
Just watch. It wont be long until they start to introduce bills that somehow mandate church attendance or insist on Christian instruction in school. Thats really easy if there are no public schools, which is currently being pushed.
The right wing in this country wants, as Frank Zappa nailed it almost 40 years ago, a fascist theocracy, with Fundamentalist, Protestant Christianity as the leading religion.
And lots and lots of white babies.