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turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:40 AM Feb 2022

The Berlin lakeside villa where the Nazis planned the Holocaust

By DPA
Published February 21, 2022

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In summer, Deborah Hartmann hears the lifeguard's announcements at the Wannsee lido from her desk. In winter, there are only the crows above the rippling waves.

"It is the ambivalence of this place, unbelievably beautiful and unbelievably tragic," says Hartmann who runs the House of the Wannsee Conference.

"It's really confusing."

https://www.rawstory.com/the-berlin-lakeside-villa-where-the-nazis-planned-the-holocaust/

And just think in 2022 there are many villas in the world planning the same today....and there are some people that say history should not be mentioned....

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The Berlin lakeside villa where the Nazis planned the Holocaust (Original Post) turbinetree Feb 2022 OP
isn't this where little Maddie Cawthorn jizzed? CurtEastPoint Feb 2022 #1
Pretty sure that was the Eagle's Nest. Jedi Guy Feb 2022 #6
One reason the GOP doesn't want history to be taught. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #2
See 'Conspiracy' if you can muriel_volestrangler Feb 2022 #3
I just watched this... Ohio Joe Feb 2022 #4
I just found this movie this weekend sarisataka Feb 2022 #5
It's a weird thing to watch those guys go so matter-of-factly about Torchlight Feb 2022 #7

Jedi Guy

(3,185 posts)
6. Pretty sure that was the Eagle's Nest.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:33 PM
Feb 2022

As I recall, he made sure to mention that "the Fuhrer" spent time there. Not "Hitler." Not "that genocidal madman." Not "that murderous bastard." Nope, he made sure to call him "the Fuhrer." Very subtle stuff.

Irish_Dem

(46,888 posts)
2. One reason the GOP doesn't want history to be taught.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:46 AM
Feb 2022

And why it cannot be mentioned.

We would immediately understand what is happening to us.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,295 posts)
3. See 'Conspiracy' if you can
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:25 PM
Feb 2022

Kenneth Branagh, Stanley Tucci and many more excellent actors - taken from the official notes, and then with the bits they decided were too incriminating to be recorded reconstructed.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_%282001_film%29

Torchlight

(3,313 posts)
7. It's a weird thing to watch those guys go so matter-of-factly about
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:37 PM
Feb 2022

something so consequential and remorseless as engineering an entire holocaust. It's watching a business meeting we've all been a part of many times, but with a totally different soundtrack of dialog being run concurrently.

I think that's one of the reasons the film is so damned gripping. And really places the following quote by CS Lewis in a more relatable context.

“I live in the Managerial Age, in a world of "Admin." The greatest evil is not now done in those sordid "dens of crime" that Dickens loved to paint. It is not done even in concentration camps and labor camps. In those we see its final result. But it is conceived and ordered (moved, seconded, carried, and minuted) in clean, carpeted, warmed and well-lighted offices, by quiet men with white collars and cut fingernails and smooth-shaven cheeks who do not need to raise their voices. Hence, naturally enough, my symbol for Hell is something like the bureaucracy of a police state or the office of a thoroughly nasty business concern."

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