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Nevilledog

(51,101 posts)
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 11:59 AM Feb 2022

The Dirty Secret of Inflation: Corporations Are Jacking Up Prices and Profits



Tweet text:

John Nichols
@NicholsUprising
Prices rose 7.5% over the last year.

AND

The US Department of Commerce reports that corporate profit margins had hit the highest level in 70 years.

We’re not experiencing inflation. We’re experiencing pandemic profiteering and corporate price gouging.

thenation.com
The Dirty Secret of Inflation: Corporations Are Jacking Up Prices and Profits
Democrats are failing to speak to the realities of the economic moment—and it could cost them in the midterms.
8:01 AM · Feb 21, 2022


https://www.thenation.com/article/politics/inflation-price-gouging/


resident Biden and his fellow Democrats need to learn to talk about inflation if they hope to maintain congressional majorities in this year’s midterm elections. They can’t deny that costs for consumers are rising at a jarring rate—up 7.5 percent compared to a year ago, according to the latest figures. But they can, and must, make the connection between surging prices and surging corporate profits.

The US Department of Commerce reported at the end of December that corporate profit margins had hit the highest level in 70 years. You’ll hear a lot of complex, and often conflicting, explanations for why this is happening now.

But recent news stories speak for themselves.


From CNBC:


Oil giant BP reports highest profit in 8 years on soaring commodity prices

From Reuters:

Cereal maker Kellogg Co. forecast full-year profit growth above market expectations on Thursday, riding on higher product prices that helped overcome labor strike disruptions and soaring input costs in the fourth quarter.

From The New York Times:

Procter & Gamble’s sales jump as consumers brush off rising prices.

From The Ticker:

McDonald’s to raise prices despite record revenue

From Yahoo Finance:

Amazon stock soars 15% after earnings, will hike Prime membership fee


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The Dirty Secret of Inflation: Corporations Are Jacking Up Prices and Profits (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2022 OP
Companies Salivated Over The Stimulus Money The American People Received In The Midst Of The... global1 Feb 2022 #1
When you give working people more money Zeitghost Feb 2022 #2
while I don't buy the they created supply issues theory dsc Feb 2022 #3
Maximizing profits is their job Zeitghost Feb 2022 #5
Companies Raised The Prices To Help The People Spend It Faster..... global1 Feb 2022 #4
I disagree with you assessment of stimulus dollars. Zeitghost Feb 2022 #7
Spot on article from the Nation. crickets Feb 2022 #6
This supports my recent comparrison Zeitghost Feb 2022 #8

global1

(25,246 posts)
1. Companies Salivated Over The Stimulus Money The American People Received In The Midst Of The...
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:13 PM
Feb 2022

pandemic - and they saw dollar signs.

How can we get our hands on all that free money that the American consumers now have?

So they created supply problems so they could justify raising prices.

Hence inflation.

You can't blame Biden for this. It is the corporations and big business wanting to get ther hands in the back pockets of the American People.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
2. When you give working people more money
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:20 PM
Feb 2022

They spend it. Corporations don't need to do anything special to convince them to do so. In fact, it's the entire point of giving people money in the first place. Their standard of living goes up and money circulates more rapidly in the economy. The downside to that action is inflation.


The idea that a corporation would create global supply issues is silly, to put it nicely.


As I'm now pointing out on a regular basis, these threads are the economic equivalent to "Vaccines will magnetize you"; not in terms of danger, but in terms of ignorance.


Inflation is a well known, well studied concept that economists know and understand well. If you are interested in the topic, there is a wealth of knowledge out there to study.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
3. while I don't buy the they created supply issues theory
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:33 PM
Feb 2022

businesses have repeatedly stated on earning calls that they are raising prices more than they have to, in order to increase profits.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
5. Maximizing profits is their job
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 02:33 PM
Feb 2022

They will charge what the market will bare, every. single. time. That has never changed and never will, it's a constant and not the root cause of our current inflation.

If a firm is charging "unreasonable" prices, they will be undercut by a competitor and/or consumers will move to alternatives/substitutes.



My point in all of this is not that corporations are not greedy, they are. But that greed is not the cause of inflation.

global1

(25,246 posts)
4. Companies Raised The Prices To Help The People Spend It Faster.....
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 12:53 PM
Feb 2022

Sure - there were real global supply issues due to the pandemic - but - there are also many manipulated and engineered supply shortages to create a reason for a company to raise its prices.

Under the cover of the real supply issues - there are unscrupulous businesses out there that are taking advantage of the situation.

Why? Because they can and that's what some companies do.

There was a lot of stimulus money floating around out there. A lot of it went to pay rent; the mortgage; fix the car; feed the kids; etc. You know the basic necessities that people had to live with because they didn't have an income coming in from their jobs.

Not a lot of people went out to buying frivolous items that they didn't need. They suffered from just about two years of sacrifice and people just wanted to experience some normal in their lives.

I don't think many people looked at the stimulus money as their standard of living went up.

I'm sorry - but this is just how I see this inflation thingy this time around. I believe the circumstances for inflation were different this time. I believe that many companies took advantage of the situation.



Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
7. I disagree with you assessment of stimulus dollars.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 06:30 PM
Feb 2022

While a lot of people saw their paychecks dwindle or even disappear during the pandemic, the vast majority did not. You also had a lot of money that normally went to commuting, vacations, eating out, etc. become suddenly available as people stayed home, which shifted spending drastically within and between sectors. Spending habits changed drastically overnight causing all kinds of disruptions. For example, every single hobby I'm involved with saw severe shortages and high prices that are still affecting markets today. All of this put inflationary pressure on prices.

The corporate desire to maximize profit is a constant. It does not change. It's the responsibility of management to maximize the return on investment of those who own a company. If they don't, that money will flow to where returns will be maximized. Firm A can not raise prices unnecessarily due to "supply chain issues" if those issues do not exist because firms B, C and D will keep their prices lower but still profitable and take their customers.

The inflation issue we are seeing now is due to more cash and fewer goods for it to chase in the market. This is a side effect of pandemic economic policies and supply chain disruptions combined with rapid growth in the recovering economy. It was a predictable outcome that nobody who understands basic economics should have been surprised by.

crickets

(25,976 posts)
6. Spot on article from the Nation.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 02:55 PM
Feb 2022

And yet...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/us-policy/2022/02/17/white-house-inflation-corporations/
Non paywall link: https://t.co/ylJg4JPP1L

When the prepared congressional testimony of a senior administration official was circulated inside the White House in recent weeks, it included a passage tying inflation to corporate consolidation and monopoly power.

That language was eventually taken out of the remarks before they were delivered. Members of the White House Council of Economic Advisers had raised objections to the idea that a spike in prices was due to corporate power, according to two people aware of the matter who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fears of professional reprisals.

The alteration of the testimony highlights the tensions within the administration over whether the White House should blame corporate consolidation and monopoly power for price hikes. Some officials in the White House National Economic Council believe the administration could more aggressively advance that argument, and Democratic pollsters have told the White House that a populist economic message on corporate greed and prices broadly resonates with voters.

But economists inside the administration, particularly at the CEA, are uncomfortable with the push. “It’s been the war of the ‘track changes’ inside the administration over how much the White House can lean in on the extent to which competition and greed are driving inflation,” said one person briefed on the internal dynamics, who spoke on the condition of anonymity due to fear of professional reprisals.




From the Nation article in the OP:

There have been only a few instances of a president’s seeing his party’s position in Congress improve in a midterm election. Yet, remarkably, one such moment did occur during the Great Depression. In the midterm election year of 1934, President Franklin Roosevelt put the blame for hard times on self-serving speculators, greedy bankers, and profiteering CEOs. Said FDR, “The fault lies with Wall Street.”

Instead of letting corporate spin form the narrative of the Great Depression and the New Deal response to it, Roosevelt used his 1934 State of the Union address to speak “of those individuals who have evaded the spirit and purpose of our tax laws, of those high officials of banks or corporations who have grown rich at the expense of their stockholders or the public, of those reckless speculators with their own or other people’s money whose operations have injured the values of the farmers’ crops and the savings of the poor.”

Throughout 1934, FDR never let up when it came to calling out speculators, monopolists, and price gougers. He promised that New Deal Democrats with increased congressional majorities would hold the bad actors to account. Voters approved. In November, they gave Democrats nine more seats in the House and nine more in the Senate, where the party achieved a rare supermajority.


Somebody at the White House needs to knock some heads together. FDR got it right.

Zeitghost

(3,858 posts)
8. This supports my recent comparrison
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 06:38 PM
Feb 2022

I've been saying the inflation threads were the economic counterpart to the anti-vaccine disinformation we saw coming out of the right. While certainly not as dangerous, they both shun the words and advice of experts in the field in exchange for ignorance.

Ignoring the Council of Economic advisors when it comes to the economy is like ignoring the CDC when it comes to public health.

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