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Has anyone else considered this is a tactic by Putin (Original Post) cilla4progress Feb 2022 OP
Other way around. Putin installed tfg to as part of his plan to put the CCCP back together NightWatcher Feb 2022 #1
I agree. Putin doesn't give a shit about Trump. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #4
I don't see why he would go to that effort. CrackityJones75 Feb 2022 #2
Truckers going to surround DC while Putin surrounds Ukraine. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #3
And the truckers' cilla4progress Feb 2022 #5
What are their short and long term objectives? Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #7
Right. cilla4progress Feb 2022 #10
Focus on what you can change. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #13
IMO: coincidence. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #11
Detectives, therapists, and PhD researchers don't believe in coincidences. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #14
+1,000! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #16
you kind of have it backwards Effete Snob Feb 2022 #6
Agree.I think Putin has accepted the fact that Trump will never come back and he will have to invade Walleye Feb 2022 #8
On the contrary, Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #15
That's pretty much what I was trying to say Walleye Feb 2022 #17
Trump is useful in that he can can continue to weaken the US. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #9
Trumpy-Boy is at the end of his political career. Eyeball_Kid Feb 2022 #18
It is not just Trump, it is all the GOP goons. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #25
Be sure you catch this Charlie Sykes oped cilla4progress Feb 2022 #20
+1 crickets Feb 2022 #22
Yes this is what I am talking about. Irish_Dem Feb 2022 #24
Doubtful. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #12
Here we go - directly on point - Sykes cilla4progress Feb 2022 #19
IMO, that sawed-off little dictator doesn't give a monkey's what happens to Dump. Talitha Feb 2022 #21
It's not about us. maxsolomon Feb 2022 #23

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
1. Other way around. Putin installed tfg to as part of his plan to put the CCCP back together
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:19 PM
Feb 2022

And the fools here are cheering for putin.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
4. I agree. Putin doesn't give a shit about Trump.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:24 PM
Feb 2022

He’s always been a useful idiot. Putin laughs at Trump’s arrogance and stupidity.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
2. I don't see why he would go to that effort.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:20 PM
Feb 2022

If there is a connection that comes publjc bow would that cause him any concern. And he certainly isn’t going to go to any great lengths to spare Trump any harm.

Irish_Dem

(46,924 posts)
7. What are their short and long term objectives?
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:34 PM
Feb 2022

Who benefits? Who funds them?

We know by now that this has nothing to do with masks and vaccines.

Make good on Trump's threat of civil war.

Weaken democracy and make it look foolish.

Weaken Biden's hands with Ukraine. Part of Putin's plans about Ukraine depend upon a greatly weakened West.

Assist the GOP with its goal of permanent power, white supremacy, access to all US wealth.

China and Russia have been clear about a new world order.

cilla4progress

(24,726 posts)
10. Right.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:40 PM
Feb 2022

Walp....


Gotta figure out if I can get my BP down to a healthy level and my young adult daughter of a recurring anxiety-depression spiral!

Irish_Dem

(46,924 posts)
13. Focus on what you can change.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:44 PM
Feb 2022

Take care of yourself and family.

There have always been dramatic ebbs and flows of history.
We just happen to be living in one now.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
11. IMO: coincidence.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:42 PM
Feb 2022

But yes, fascism is relentless. BTW, LEAs won’t be unprepared if there is ANY attempt to disrupt transportation, business, or interstate commerce. LE in the US is more forceful and well-funded.

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
6. you kind of have it backwards
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:32 PM
Feb 2022

The point wasn't the installation of Trump, or Brexit, or any of the other mischief.

The point was to generally weaken the ability of the usual allies to respond effectively to an invasion and annexation of Ukraine.

It is precisely because Trump has been thrown away like a used rag that the invasion is probably to proceed. Trump is no longer of any use and Putin couldn't give two shits what happens to him.

Walleye

(31,009 posts)
8. Agree.I think Putin has accepted the fact that Trump will never come back and he will have to invade
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:38 PM
Feb 2022

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
15. On the contrary,
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:47 PM
Feb 2022

Trump was overly conciliatory and submissive. Putin began planning for his expansion during the Trump era and assumed that Trump would win a second term and run interference for him. Biden and an invigorated NATO threw a monkey wrench into Putin’s wet dream.

Irish_Dem

(46,924 posts)
9. Trump is useful in that he can can continue to weaken the US.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:39 PM
Feb 2022

Trump creates division, chaos and threatens a civil war. The so called truckers are helping both Trump and Putin.

Putin and China want a new world order, and Trump is assisting that effort.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
18. Trumpy-Boy is at the end of his political career.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:52 PM
Feb 2022

When the first indictment hits, it will be a watershed event. That’s when Trump’s influence will sink like a brick in a swimming pool. After the first indictment, the rest will follow in rapid succession.

Tommy Carcetti

(43,174 posts)
12. Doubtful.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 01:43 PM
Feb 2022

Putin's aspirations on Ukraine are much higher up than whatever interests he has in taking care of his little pet.

Although it might be an intended side-effect of it all.

Talitha

(6,582 posts)
21. IMO, that sawed-off little dictator doesn't give a monkey's what happens to Dump.
Mon Feb 21, 2022, 03:19 PM
Feb 2022

He was a useful idiot for a while - the bromance is over.

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