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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhat is Putin's #1 Goal?
Is his #1 goal to annex Ukraine? Is his #1 goal to take back the old Soviet Union?
Is Putin's #1 goal to topple democracy in the United States and with the fall of the US the rest of the democracies throughout the world?
People better think long and hard about what Putin is doing in Ukraine, his plans are not to stop there.
We have over 30% of the US taking Russia's side. We have a big chunk of the MSM either taking Russia's side or bashing president Biden's response to Ukraine.
We have one of our political parties taking Russia's side. We have one of our political parties rigging the next election.
We have MF45 saying recently that "people" want him to run in 2024. MF45 will run in 2024 if Putin tells him to run. Even if he doesn't run a Trump clone will run.
The war in Ukraine will cause hardships in the US, gas could go to 7 dollars a gallon, the fossil fuel industry will join in. Putin intends the war in Ukraine to damage president Biden.
If the GQP takes back Congress and it already controls the SC, shortly after 2024 Putin may realize his #1 goal.
Trump and the traitors need to be held accountable, and it needs to happen soon.
Doom and Gloom? Fucking right it is.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,010 posts)Ill take non-sequiturs for $1000, Alex.
gab13by13
(21,329 posts)It certainly is a fact that Putin wants to take down our democracy. He got Trump elected in 2016, or is that a non-sequitur? We have GQP politicians visiting Russia. We have CPAC televising its conference to Hungary. We have GQP politicians visiting Hungary.
There is a strong movement in the United States to abolish our democracy and Putin's war in Ukraine is intended to damage president Biden and the Democratic party.
I will check back with you in a couple months to see if you answered your Jeopardy question correctly.
elleng
(130,895 posts)Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,956 posts)Skittles
(153,160 posts)distraction from the fact he is an small and bald old man
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)But these men of tiny dicks seem to be banding together these days and making the world a terrible place for everyone.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,463 posts)Get rid of trump and the entire propaganda apparatus,fuck these companies,and get rid of all the damn traitors harassing school boards,bullies on planes,every time one of these right wing bullies starts something they are arrested and locked up for a time.
We need to get this entrenched fascist, pro russian, reactionary,seditionist contingecy out of our government .period
We need to treat this shit pile as a dire threat to this country. The entire crowd of magats and trumpers the racists . We need to tax the living fuck out of churches and pastors. And take some corporate charters away faux ,oan and newsmax
meta maybe even apple comes to mind..
We cant just sit here and think these people organizations or companies are just being contrarians. Propaganda isnt free speech and neither is money.Or using trucks as barracades or killing machines.
We have to stand up to the wealthy make them obey the law, and make them accountable tax them and thier cap wealth accumulation.
We tolerate too much anti democratic bullshit and threats.
Treat this as a rant please
I dont know how to turn smileys back on.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)gab13by13
(21,329 posts)Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)moondust
(19,979 posts)"History will remember that he bravely reconstructed the historic Russian Empire that had been torn apart by its enemies."
I think he's afraid of conflicting "fake news" reaching the Russian people and creating unrest and possibly revolution. He controls the media in Russia and apparently has much control of the internet similar to China. Since he lost his puppet Yanukovych in 2014, he knows he won't be able to control the information circulating in Ukraine where there are a lot of Russian-speaking Ukrainians.
Part of the reason for the collapse of the USSR was information. Thanks to Radio Free Europe and Western travelers to Russia and the Soviet republics smuggling in Levis and other western goods, Russians and others in the USSR started to learn about democracy, free press, free elections, consumerism, etc. As information spread the USSR fell apart. Putin certainly remembers all that threatening "fake news" entering the USSR and he sure doesn't want that to happen to him. He needs to put another puppet in Kyiv so he can control the "fake news" and prevent it from inspiring another Russian revolution.
LastDemocratInSC
(3,647 posts)PortTack
(32,762 posts)Buddy2
(28 posts)He wants his historic ground and some buffer.
iemanja
(53,032 posts)Unless of course you accept Putin's view of the world. Funny how the right now embraces Vladimir Lenin and his claim over Ukraine, something Putin evoked tonight.
mvd
(65,173 posts)That way we can use non-military means. If he expands beyond that, look out. It would make the pandemic look like a picnic.
iemanja
(53,032 posts)As someone pointed out tonight, it's the second largest country in Europe.
I don't agree to ceding Ukraine to Russia, nor does our or Ukraine's president.