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Jilly_in_VA

(9,962 posts)
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:45 PM Feb 2022

Like Eileen Gu, People With Mixed Roots Are Tired of Being Told to Pick a Side

For China’s star athlete Eileen Gu, “either-or” isn’t in her vocabulary.

Born to a Chinese mother and American father, the 18-year-old skier grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area while straddling the Pacific. While in the U.S., she took piano, surfing, and skiing lessons. Come summer, she’d travel to Beijing to study for the Mathematical Olympiad and the SAT.

Years later, she’d find herself in the same city representing China at the Winter Olympics and at the center of a debate over her nationality and identity. “When I’m in the U.S., I’m American, but when I’m in China, I’m Chinese,” she has often said.

Gu’s evident rejection of identifying with only one nation has angered some critics. Though the Olympian has so far deflected questions about her dual citizenship—which is not recognized in Chinese law—conservative outlets have called her a “traitor” to the United States. In an interview last week, ex-UN ambassador Nikki Haley urged the skier to pick a side. “You’re standing for freedom or you’re standing for human rights abuses. There is no in-between,” the former Trump appointee said.

The badgering Gu has faced about her citizenship is a shared sentiment for many who don’t fit into a binary.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kb7ye/eileen-gu-olympics-dual-nationality-china-us
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Of course Nimrata Randhawa is on the other side, pretty much ignoring her ancestry if not outright denying it

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Like Eileen Gu, People With Mixed Roots Are Tired of Being Told to Pick a Side (Original Post) Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 OP
I wonder what the reaction would be if she were Russian-American and chose to compete for Russia. nt PoliticAverse Feb 2022 #1
burnt at the stake Celerity Feb 2022 #2
She would have the right to do this. lark Feb 2022 #4
Eff Nimrata. Cracklin Charlie Feb 2022 #3
For people who criticize and bully Gu, and others in her position, HUAJIAO Feb 2022 #5
"... her dual citizenship--which is not recognized in Chinese law..." Mariana Feb 2022 #6
Bill Maher touched on this Sympthsical Feb 2022 #7
Would she have cared if she weren't "hot"? iemanja Feb 2022 #9
His point wasn't about her Sympthsical Feb 2022 #11
The segment focused on her iemanja Feb 2022 #12
And that's what you're taking away from all that Sympthsical Feb 2022 #13
$31.4 million seems relevant empedocles Feb 2022 #15
She literally picked a side. iemanja Feb 2022 #8
My great-niece Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #10
Maybe I'm Dense RobinA Feb 2022 #14

lark

(23,083 posts)
4. She would have the right to do this.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:56 PM
Feb 2022

I wouldn't cheer for her because she was representing an aggressive right wing authoritarian nation, but I would support her right to compete for whichever country she chose.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
3. Eff Nimrata.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 12:55 PM
Feb 2022

Eileen has been very upfront about why she competed for China. She wants to grow the sport. To add interest and accessibility for kids around the world.

She will do that.

Nimrata, on the other hand…all about exclusion. Eileen has already surpassed any impact Nikki will ever have on anything.

HUAJIAO

(2,382 posts)
5. For people who criticize and bully Gu, and others in her position,
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

it is none of your fucking business. Go home.

Mariana

(14,854 posts)
6. "... her dual citizenship--which is not recognized in Chinese law..."
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:02 PM
Feb 2022

It is completely irrelevant whether her dual citizenship is "recognized by Chinese law". China doesn't get to decide who can be a US citizen, that is governed by US law alone. The US doesn't get to decide who can be a citizen of China, that is governed by Chinese law alone. She does not have to choose one or the other.

iemanja

(53,027 posts)
9. Would she have cared if she weren't "hot"?
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:11 PM
Feb 2022

Plenty of other Americans chose to represent other countries.

Maher is such a pig.

Sympthsical

(9,067 posts)
11. His point wasn't about her
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:14 PM
Feb 2022

It was about China and how celebrities and companies approach it out of monetary motivations.

iemanja

(53,027 posts)
12. The segment focused on her
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:16 PM
Feb 2022

with her picture, and he emphasized that "hot" freestyle skiers shouldn't be allowed to represent China.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
15. $31.4 million seems relevant
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:54 PM
Feb 2022

'Even before she took home her first gold medal at the Winter Olympics, freestyle skier Eileen Gu racked up a fortune. The 18-year-old’s 2021 earnings are estimated to be over $31.4 million, according to market research firm CBNData (link in Chinese), putting her among the world’s top earning female athletes.
How Eileen Gu became a darling of global and Chinese brands
www.msn.com/en-US/news/winter-olympics/how-eileen-gu-became-a-darling-of-global-and-chinese-brands/ar-AATQSz2
www.msn.com/en-US/news/winter-olympics/how-eileen-gu-became-a-darling-of … '

Jilly_in_VA

(9,962 posts)
10. My great-niece
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:12 PM
Feb 2022

(and soon there will be two of them!) has dual citizenship--US and Ukrainian. She was born in Ukraine to a Ukrainian mother and an American father. Her sister will be too, unless they are forced to remain in exile elsewhere in Europe and she's born there, in which case she may have triple citizenship! However, nobody will question them if they would decide to compete for the country they were born in, because they don't "look different". They're white. Is it only the multiracial athletes who get questioned, the ones who look "different", the ones who are darker, or the ones who decide to compete for countries we perceive to be our "enemies"? Riddle me that.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
14. Maybe I'm Dense
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 01:49 PM
Feb 2022

but as a 100% American of Northern European descent, I find this brouhaha curious. To me, if you can legally participate for more than one nation you are pretty lucky and you can compete for who you want, no questions asked. I simply don’t get the controversy.

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