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Madison Cawthorn panics that voters are "actually very close" to blocking him from running for reele (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 OP
He should listen to his electorate FakeNoose Feb 2022 #1
That would be democracy DBoon Feb 2022 #5
They are not happy with you Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #2
Perhaps into Jerry2144 Feb 2022 #4
No alligator-invested swamps in NC Jilly_in_VA Feb 2022 #9
Ummm... OldBaldy1701E Feb 2022 #13
Not in his district but Eastern NC does have swamps. mwooldri Feb 2022 #16
Highly doubt it brooklynite Feb 2022 #3
I don't like occupy democrats memes. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #6
Well stated PJMcK Feb 2022 #7
Agreed madville Feb 2022 #10
He royally pissed of very powerful state GOP politicians dsc Feb 2022 #11
As long as he acknowledges it..I'm ok Deuxcents Feb 2022 #8
It may happen one day, but it ain't happening one day soon Mr. Ected Feb 2022 #12
how come the j-6 committee hasn't subpoenaed Mr. Runamouth yet ? monkeyman1 Feb 2022 #14
Banned from office is not the same as banned from running. CaptainTruth Feb 2022 #15
What about the rest of them? OMGWTF Feb 2022 #17
he's a noisy shit, like all refuKKKchickens, so who cares? they're over quota anyway... bringthePaine Feb 2022 #18

Jilly_in_VA

(9,971 posts)
9. No alligator-invested swamps in NC
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 06:07 PM
Feb 2022

Plenty of rivers, though. In his district, even. Some of them quite wild.

brooklynite

(94,571 posts)
3. Highly doubt it
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:18 PM
Feb 2022

First, this meme provides no evidence that he's panicking

Second, as I've mentioned before, while the NC BOE has the AUTHORITY to remove him from the ballot, it is NOT going to want to assume the RESPONSIBILITY of deciding whether Cawthorn has participated in an insurrection. There's a specific statute addressing Insurrection, and as long as he isn't indicted/convicted, he won't be kept off the ballot.

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
7. Well stated
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022

The NC BOE is not going to assume the responsibility of keeping an incumbent member of Congress off the ballot. They would be tied up in court for a decade and it would rive the state.

madville

(7,410 posts)
10. Agreed
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 06:24 PM
Feb 2022

There is very little chance the BOE takes him off the ballot unless he’s convicted of something, which isn’t happening before November.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
11. He royally pissed of very powerful state GOP politicians
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 06:59 PM
Feb 2022

they might well take him out. He stole a district out from under the speaker of the state house.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
12. It may happen one day, but it ain't happening one day soon
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 07:10 PM
Feb 2022

As noted above, the 14th Amendment does not say "alleged to have engaged in insurrection or rebellion". And therein lies the rub.

CaptainTruth

(6,591 posts)
15. Banned from office is not the same as banned from running.
Tue Feb 22, 2022, 07:50 PM
Feb 2022

I really wish folks would figure this out, it makes us look like we don't understand the Constitution or the law.

The Constitution's 14th Amendment, which is the text cited in the OP meme, DOES NOT ban anyone from RUNNING for office. It bans folks from HOLDING office.

It's structured like Article II, Section 1 of the Constitution which specifies (in Clause 5) that to hold the office of POTUS a person must be at least 35 years of age. It doesn't prevent anyone younger from running for the office, it only prevents them from holding the office if they win.

Now, why are there restrictions on holding office but not running for office? Well, running for office involves things like public speeches, holding rallies (peaceful assemblies) etc etc... can we think of a part of the Constitution that might be violated if we banned someone from speaking publicly & holding assemblies? First Amendment, maybe?

Even in this specific case with Madison Cawthorn, I don't believe there's anything that can prevent him from running, Occupy Democrats has mischaracterized the issue at hand. The issue at hand is that, the North Carolina State Board of Elections allegedly has the power to prevent his name from appearing on the printed ballot. The question is NOT "can he be prevented from running," the question is "will his name appear on the ballot"?

Even if his name is removed from the ballot he can still run as a write-in candidate.

If I'm wrong on this please tell me, it's driving me nuts how 90+% of folks, including our media, are mischaracterizing this.

/rant off

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