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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA refresher for all those who think Putin never would've invaded if Trump were still President. Bull
Trump repeatedly praised Putin.
Trump hired a pro Russian criminal to run his campaign.
Trump said it was good Russia invaded Crimea.
Trump made the 2016 GOP platform anti-Ukraine.
Trump repeatedly dismissed Russian hacking.
Trump capitalized on Russian meddling in 2016.
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Trump denied Russian interference in 2016.
Trump undermined Russian sanctions.
Trump was open to lifting sanctions.
Trump would never say Putin was a killer.
Trump tried to return spy bases to Russia.
Trump gave Russia classified intel.
Trump repeatedly attacked NATO.
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Trump had to be forced into signing new Russian sanctions.
Trump pushed for a joint cyber security unit with Russia.
Trump thanked Putin for expelling US diplomats from Russia.
Trump eased sanctions on Putins top oligarchs.
Trump congratulated Putin on his sham election.
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Trump tried to rescind sanctions on Russia for poisoning a defector.
Trump blocked a US statement condemning Russias invasion of Georgia.
Trump repeatedly praised far-right pro Russian leaders in Europe.
Trump refused to condemn Russias 2018 attack on Ukraines military.
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Trump defended Soviet invasion of Afghanistan.
Trump pushed to let Russia in the G-7.
Trump gave Syria to Russia.
Trump echoed Russian talking points on ISIS.
Trump spread Russian lies about Ukraine.
Trump froze US aid to Ukraine.
Trump smeared US Ambassador to Ukraine.
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Trump tried to visit Putin on Russian soil.
Trump gave Putin a PR victory on Covid.
Trump invited Putin to 2020 G-7 Summit.
Trump ordered CIA to share Intel with Russia.
Trump ignored warnings of Russian bounties on our soldiers.
Trump called Russian bounty story a hoax.
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Trump never raised Russian bounties with Putin.
Trump ordered US troops out of Germany.
Its as if Trump worked for Putin.
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empedocles
(15,751 posts)Walleye
(44,807 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)Walleye
(44,807 posts)After all Putin got him elected the first time, no reason to think he couldnt do it again. Trump was all set to award him the entire country of Ukraine as compensation for getting him reelected. Im sure of it
BeyondGeography
(41,101 posts)Two reasons:
1. SOCCER!
No one mentions this, but its undeniably true. Russia hosted the World Cup in the summer of 2018. Successfully. I might add. The World Cup audience makes the Super Bowl look like an exhibition baseball game. Vlad wasnt going to do anything to torpedo that. The World Cup pushed any invasion deeper into Trumps first term, which leads to reason #2.
2. Trump 2020
Vlad didnt want to do anything to hinder Trumps re-election, which looked like a very good bet before COVID. Apart from the pandemic, its hard to imagine a bigger unscheduled political problem for Trump than compelling him to do exactly what he is doing now, supporting an unlawful and heinous invasion of Ukraine and sucking up to Putin yet again.
Vlad was going in either way after our election and he would have much rather had Trump in the Oval Office than Biden, as if it needs to be said.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)If Trump would have been in charge, there would be no need for an invasion. Putin and Trump would have simply agreed to divide Europe into spheres of influence, with the lion's share going to Putin. The rewards for Putin would have been far greater than taking Ukraine over.
I suspect this was Putin's Plan A. It fell apart on Jan 6. He is now implementing his Plan B, which involves a military invasion of Ukraine.
empedocles
(15,751 posts)very, very hard, to project a 'powerful, masterful, appearance' everywhere, Always it seemed, - except near putin.
Certainly, his staffers. etc., would note to trump that trump needs to appear stronger near putin.
Yet it seems that trump always seems so overwhelming weak near putin - trump can't help himself..
Might be extremely serious putin kompromat on trump.
Beastly Boy
(13,283 posts)But regardless of kompromat, Putin would have gained a hell of a lot more and a hell of a lot faster were Trump in power for the second term.