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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsFlorida to force students to be financially literate to graduate. No balanced checkbook no diploma.
https://www.fox13news.com/news/florida-bill-would-require-students-to-take-financial-literacy-course-in-order-to-graduateFlorida bill would require students to take financial literacy course in order to graduate
A half-credit course in personal financial literacy and money management would be added as a graduation requirement.
The financial literacy course would have to include instruction on types of bank accounts and how to open and manage accounts, completing loan applications and computing federal income taxes.
"Basic principles of money management, such as spending, credit, credit scores and managing debt, including retail and credit card debt" also would be required as part of the curriculum, the proposal said.
A similar Senate bill (SB 1054) was approved unanimously Tuesday by the Rules Committee and is poised for consideration by the full Senate.
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Once again, Florida is out of control, forcing students to learn how to use credit cards and apply for a mortgage. Where will the madness end.
we can do it
(12,180 posts)CurtEastPoint
(18,638 posts)we can do it
(12,180 posts)oregonjen
(3,335 posts)our checkbooks was required to graduate.
SergeStorms
(19,192 posts)And add almost 20 years to the timeline. It wasn't until the Reagan years, where credit was looser than a goose, when the consumer credit market started it's upward climb.
NightWatcher
(39,343 posts)Sounds terrible when phrased that way, doesn't it?
I like the idea of teaching kids life skills in school.
we can do it
(12,180 posts)doc03
(35,324 posts)Zorro
(15,737 posts)We had a mandatory one semester HS Consumer Economics class sophomore year in Ohio.
It's a good thing for kids to learn.
Baitball Blogger
(46,699 posts)My hubby has already put together a course outline for college students that would teach just these things.
Was getting ready to pitch it.
As reasonable as it sounds, there is a difference between a choice and a mandate for something like this.
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cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)dameatball
(7,396 posts)setting me straight. Rant over.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)This is for high school. Not college.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)soryang
(3,299 posts)Or provisions in standard banking service contracts?
I don't think anyone can read these, they are designed not to be read.
Will they be taught to how to supervise their own medical care because of the piss poor medical care in this country.
I doubt it.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,783 posts)But then, how may parents even know how to balance a checkbook, let alone manage Credit cards? Doing Taxes? There are people who know how to do that.
Hekate
(90,633 posts)
for basic information that I had never gotten from either of my parents. We had no money.
In all honesty, all my mother knew how to do was be poor we were well-fed and my entire wardrobe was pretty good hand-me-downs, and a place to live was never in doubt, but extras were out of the question and everything was an extra and she was the one who had to say it.
Dad was a silent man. But he brought home the paycheck. So I sat him down at the kitchen table with my pen, a stack of paper, and the Want Ads, and started asking him basic questions about rent, utilities, groceries, and so on.
That was it. Nothing about checkbooks or credit cards. Nothing about how to find a job that paid a cent more than minimum wage he could have gotten me a job at his unionized plant, but no, that was his world. I didnt even know how to ask the right questions of employers or my college.
I just dont have a lot of faith in the financial intelligence of high schoolers. Well-off or poor, they are in their parents bubble until they arent.
Thunderbeast
(3,406 posts)patricia92243
(12,595 posts)pecosbob
(7,534 posts)ripcord
(5,327 posts)People with the skills listed in the OP are less likely to be taken advantage of.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)this is the kind of bills that are getting passed and becoming law outside of the Twitter feed.
That said, I am sure someone will find a reason to object to this. It wouldn't be DU otherwise.
Hekate
(90,633 posts)
enough to use the check register and keep track. A friend helped me open the account because I was going to be running a local campaign HQ and taking in donations. I look back and realize he also tried to teach me how to kite checks (not in so many words, of course), but I was also savvy enough to realize what he was suggesting was A Bad Idea.
Later I got a credit card through the big department store I worked at. My main purpose in that was to establish a credit record of my own. Back then it was very difficult for women to get a major credit card in their own name, whether they were single, married, divorced, or widowed much less a poor student so I reasoned a good place to start would be the store where I was employed. I used cards then, and to this day, only for things I can pay for in a month.
I think my native suspicion of anything free or too good to be true saved me from a lot of the pitfalls of managing my own pitiful paychecks, but I know that too many other young people end up in a world of hurt especially since the age of financial adulthood was determined to be 18 y.o.
genxlib
(5,524 posts)I don't see any harm in helping high school kids get life skills.
The challenge is fitting it in without cutting something else valid away. My vote would be all of the "say no to drugs" stuff but I am not an educator.
I think the OP assumes that the goal is to train good little consumers. I would hope that the goal is to train them to not fall into the trap that consumerism offers without understanding the consequences.
Of course, how the curriculum is developed means everything. If I know Florida, they will just accept donated class materials from the banking industry that sends all the wrong messages.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)My "bookkeeping" class in h.s. taught this information.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,580 posts)I didn't know how to write a check or anything like that till I got married! My husband was very happy to teach me.
It took getting married to make me feel like an adult. I was 21 years old.
cachukis
(2,231 posts)I can unequivocally attest the students, themselves, are screaming for this education. Most have parents unable to translate the basics of day to day finance. In fact, the students would benefit from classes in every day life management skills.
Many are very adroit at dealing in "emergency" living. Putting them in a prepare to stay out of emergency climate, would have enormous impact.
CaptainTruth
(6,583 posts)In other words, tell them exactly why the balance in their checking account is so low?
Hekate
(90,633 posts)A narrowly-focused class on personal finance and avoiding common traps should easily pass muster, and would be very useful to any young person.
What you want would go down in flames as a Commie plot.
forthemiddle
(1,379 posts)Walking into a bank for any service is intimidating for anyone the first time. Anything that helps kids manage that seems like a good idea.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,749 posts)Demsrule86
(68,539 posts)I check my balances and what has gone through every day online.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)Much like one does math in one's head even though there are calculators.
Crunchy Frog
(26,579 posts)I honestly wish I'd had something like that.
marmar
(77,067 posts)Hassin Bin Sober
(26,324 posts)ellie
(6,929 posts)In my high school there was a math for daily living class. I didn't take it but I should have.
cinematicdiversions
(1,969 posts)It was for woman only if I recall. That would have been a lot more useful than another semester of a foreign language i would forget about one minute after graduation.