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Profits at Starbucks are UP and the CEO got a BIG raise last year. (Original Post) Uncle Joe Feb 2022 OP
With a 6 day work week Beachnutt Feb 2022 #1
We bought a good espresso machine Bettie Feb 2022 #2
A Tip ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #5
I use light roast or medium roast beans I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #6
That's Why The Italians Don't Use It ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #11
I will use a dark roast and see if its better. I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #12
Don't Misunderstand ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #13
Thanks for the foam tips I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #3
Coffee Is Pretty Good ProfessorGAC Feb 2022 #4
I used to like starbucks because I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #7
People hanging out for hours and sending little $$ ultimately isn't going to keep businesses going. MichMan Feb 2022 #8
Another reason I hate capitalism I_UndergroundPanther Feb 2022 #9
I agree that having a place to get a coffee chat with folks or goof off on your tablet kacekwl Feb 2022 #10
Trickle Down Economics 101: The CEO gets two whole pies, we get what's left of the crumbs. Initech Feb 2022 #14

Bettie

(16,089 posts)
2. We bought a good espresso machine
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:08 PM
Feb 2022

so I can make my own fancy coffee. Turns out, it costs a lot less and is better.

And it doesn't take long.

And I love my fancy coffee.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
5. A Tip
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:21 PM
Feb 2022

In Italy, they DO NOT use a dark roasted bean. The coffee used to make espresso (cafe) there is a fine ground that is about the same color brown as the stuff in a Folger's can. (A bit darker, but not much.)
So, if you want a fancy coffee that is closer to what the Italians drink, don't use the overroasted espresso beans sold in most places here. Use a standard roast Arabic a bean.
If you want it like Cuban bucci, or Turkish kahve, the dark roast is more authentic.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
6. I use light roast or medium roast beans
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:53 PM
Feb 2022

For expresso. I like it better.

Dont like creamated charcoal shaped like coffee beans.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
11. That's Why The Italians Don't Use It
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:39 AM
Feb 2022

Given the high concentration of coffee solids, it's too bitter.
Bucci & kahve have to be consumed HOT! Get down to 120 and it coats the tongue with bitters.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
12. I will use a dark roast and see if its better.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 06:52 PM
Feb 2022

I just dont like my coffee charcoaled. I want to be able to taste the beans.

Very dark roasts I really dont like the taste of it.Maybe with expresso its different.

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
13. Don't Misunderstand
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:17 PM
Feb 2022

The Italians do NOT use a hard roast for espresso!
Most espresso made here does. That's why the coffee is Italy is richer & less bitter.
If you like what you have now, don't go dark roast unless you just want to experiment.
I used dark roast back in 80s. After I started going to Italy for work (been there 40 something times now) I switched to medium roast. Makes better espresso & WAY better cappuccino or latte. (My wife prefers those. I like espresso.)
Finally, when steaming the milk, make sure the steam wand is quite close to the bottom until the milk gets hot.
Then for the last 10 seconds put the wand only about a half inch under the surface. By preheating & diluting the milk, the final foaming creates a richer, more stable foam for the top of the fancy coffee!

Response to Uncle Joe (Original post)

ProfessorGAC

(64,995 posts)
4. Coffee Is Pretty Good
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 09:15 PM
Feb 2022

But, lots of places have good coffee.
I think their products are overpriced. Honestly, all coffee is ridiculously priced for what it costs to brew a cup. Starbucks is even more so

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
7. I used to like starbucks because
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 10:01 PM
Feb 2022

They had chairs outside where my friends and extended friends could hang out without being harassed to buy something etc .
No drunks, no loud music to yell over. You could park your ass and draw there,read a book,joke around,play on your laptop..A bookstore nextdoor . It was a neutral socialization place. There were regulars,and new people soon became regulars it was a little community.

Then when starbux started closing stores they killed it and my town has become colder because of it.

There are too few spaces like this in this country.

I had some very good times there.

We need social places that are public ,safe and neutral spaces to hang out. This particular starbux had outdoor tables and indoor tables and chairs tables in the bookstore too which allowed you to bring your coffee and snacks over. It made it a great place to hang out all year.

Not a huge fan of thier coffee,but I loved being there.

MichMan

(11,908 posts)
8. People hanging out for hours and sending little $$ ultimately isn't going to keep businesses going.
Wed Feb 23, 2022, 11:06 PM
Feb 2022

Too many people want to treat bookstores as libraries and then go home & order from Amazon. Or hangout at coffee shops for hours and buying very little. Eventually it is unsustainable to keep many places open and profitable.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
10. I agree that having a place to get a coffee chat with folks or goof off on your tablet
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 12:43 AM
Feb 2022

is great. On very few occasions my wife and I will visit Starbucks or any coffee shop just to get out of the house. We end up talking about stuff we don't usually get to at home. My experience is most people stay as long as it takes to finish their drink and don't hang around for hours. Sadly a lot of places are downsizing the inside/outside space with little if any seating witch is too bad cause interactions with people is so limited these days.

Initech

(100,063 posts)
14. Trickle Down Economics 101: The CEO gets two whole pies, we get what's left of the crumbs.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 08:20 PM
Feb 2022

And the CEO will also take a third and fourth pie when the profits are up.

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