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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAs I listen to the opinions being voiced about "how far Putin will go", I am struck by
how many times those who expressed fear of a massacre,---a slaughter, an extermination, a genocide---were quieted by the assurance that "they just wouldn't DO that!"
Those who are convinced that reason will always triumph over whatever monsters arise should review photos of Hitler's ovens and Pol Pot's "killing fields".
One does not negotiate with monsters. One does not forgive them or give them quarter.
Monsters must be destroyed.
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)He is a vicious, pathological person.
BMW2020RT
(139 posts)Are there people near him that might intercede? I know there has been very little public pushback, but what of their private thoughts?
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)Is the military fat and happy like his oligarchs? I think they would be the only hope in the immediate future
NJCher
(35,622 posts)Heard this tonight on one of the msnbc shows.
Not hard to believe if you think about it.
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)What a metaphor.
Wingus Dingus
(8,052 posts)from whatever statement he's made today. As in not-totally-in-touch-with-reality nuts, not just unpredictable or aggressive.
maryellen99
(3,785 posts)Gore1FL
(21,104 posts)I guess it all comes down to whether or not he is ready for that.
Shipwack
(2,158 posts)... for all the negotiations that resulted in the Ukraine giving up it's nukes. It would be all too tempting to use them either now, or in several days if things really go south.
Of course, I am sure that many in the Ukraine would disagree with me right now, and I do not fault them for that.
58Sunliner
(4,372 posts)Who else sends out hit squads internationally to kill critics.
dalton99a
(81,406 posts)Dialogue means shit
Love means shit
Dave says
(4,616 posts)How does one stop the monster without really risking nuclear war?
Next, Georgia. Then, on the other side of the planet, China seizes Taiwan. Then back to Putin and Europe, will it next be Poland, Latvia, Estonia? France?
I hate this.
DENVERPOPS
(8,790 posts)this russian crap actually impedes China from moving on Taiwan. They will be seen as another russia, with the worlds eyes focused on them and Taiwan, which they don't want.
China will start giving Russia Crap as soon as this crap starts rocking their economy. China supplies the world with a ton of things, and that is what their economy and Government depends on. If Russia screws that up, they will certainly come out against Russia....
Maybe I am wrong, but the world is beginning to join together about this. Of course that is with the exception of Trump praising Putin,
and the dimwit talking heads at Fox news doing the same.......
Where did all the anti-communist, pinko hawks in the Republican Party go to??????????????
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Their #1 trade partner, the U.S.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)North Korea.
JoeOtterbein
(7,699 posts)War.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)that people just choose not to believe it. It reminds me how WWII started.
pecosbob
(7,533 posts)Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Include dumpster in the monsters who need to be destroyed. He murdered over 1 mil and is responsible for this as are his followers.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Duppers
(28,117 posts)This is a very scary situation.
Putin now perceives the US as being weak and divided. He's underestimating us.
Meowmee
(5,164 posts)Etc. This ON YOU. We may be witnessing the start of ww3 I hope not.
denbot
(9,898 posts)By force, there is no other method.
blue-wave
(4,344 posts)czarjak
(11,254 posts)monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)NBachers
(17,083 posts)H2O Man
(73,511 posts)Putin is a sociopath. Unlike Trump, who is also a sociopath, Putin is an organized one. He's who Trump wishes he was.
I would hope that someone in the circle of Russian power steps up and removes the threat that is unfolding due to Putin.
mn9driver
(4,420 posts)and install one that he likes. And eliminate is the right word. He has a list. Once his puppet government is properly set up, Russia will withdraw and Putin is counting on the west just wanting to move on. Watch it happen.
nvme
(860 posts)Cheezoholic
(2,006 posts)We are a sheltered society. We have NEVER experienced war like the rest of the world. 9/11 was a drop in the bucket. When we finally experience whats going on in Ukraine right now maybe the asshole convoy maga fucks will get a clue.
hay rick
(7,590 posts)The ugliest part of Trump's heritage is the demonstration that even an incompetent can get away with a lot if he is sufficiently brazen. Those of us who believed "America is better than that" should be concerned.