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(81,386 posts)Kick them back to Russia
LetMyPeopleVote
(144,890 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Amishman
(5,553 posts)The sanctions and actions being discussed by the US and everyone else are completely inadequate.
Hekate
(90,537 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)In case anyone is wondering why the cost of housing in the US is rising so fast, buying US real estate is a safe haven for foreign investors worried about the value of rubles, etc.
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L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)SmittyWerben
(823 posts)So, short of that, severe economic sanctions is what we have. I do not want American troops on the ground in Ukraine, if that happens this switches from Putin attacking a sovereign nation because he felt threatened by NATO (not in Ukraine) to a war with the United States and NATO proving Putins' fears were correct. Sanctions and global condemnation will eventually cripple Russia and then Putin.
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)but with how many dead by that time?
SmittyWerben
(823 posts)This is on Putin. Unfortunately the Ukrainians are going to suffer a great deal, but it would be worse if we were on the ground there. Putin might be ready to use tactical nukes if we put boots on the ground and help defeat his Military. He would believe there is nothing between his loss of power and his opposition forces but nukes. And he would use them.
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)we are turning our backs on this entire country. This is David and Goliath and I'm not seeing David has a chance against the monster.
SmittyWerben
(823 posts)Short of that there is very little that the US, NATO and the EU can do physically to stop the Russian invasion. Ukrainians are going to suffer and die, are already doing so, have been doing so since 2014. This is a global problem that requires a global solution, but not World War III. The Ukrainians have been preparing for a guerilla style insurrection for a while now. Even occupied this will not be over, the costs to Russia will eventually catch up.
EndlessWire
(6,453 posts)They should do it.
highplainsdem
(48,892 posts)this month to keep it safe.
dalton99a
(81,386 posts)Hekate
(90,537 posts)Now help the Democrats make it so.
Hekate
(90,537 posts)L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Glaisne
(515 posts)each and every one of those yachts.
Rebl2
(13,447 posts)Corgigal
(9,291 posts)Hotler
(11,392 posts)wives, daughters and girlfriends b*#ch.
AZLD4Candidate
(5,639 posts)Texin
(2,589 posts)wryter2000
(46,023 posts)Someone should tell him driving a Maserati and living on a yacht is a bad image for a guy who supposedly represents a poor state.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)Seriously, attacking one of our own senators for living in DC? And insulting WV in the same sentence. Get a grip.
wryter2000
(46,023 posts)He sure spends a lot of time huddling with McConnell. And poverty in WV is a fact. I realize I'm totally off topic here, and you can attack me for that, but Manchin seriously needs to get a grip on what the people of the United States, and WV need.
And on edit: FFS your own self.
mwooldri
(10,299 posts)And Millhouse LLC? All owned by Roman Abromovch?
cbabe
(3,511 posts)calimary
(81,085 posts)Sink em all. Seal Team Six, where are you? Underwater after dark. When its nice n quiet. And fewer people are looking or on guard. And a coordinated effort so theyre ALL sinking at the same time.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)You don't want to sink giant fuel tanks. Confiscate them, use them to house the homeless.
Delphinus
(11,824 posts)that idea.
BlueIdaho
(13,582 posts)For all Oligarchs and Russian politicians. Send all suspected Russian spies stationed at embassies home. Block telecom and the internet to Russia.
Putin wants to claim victory and call it quits. This should be the start of a new normal for Russia. Leave them out in the cold.
Wild blueberry
(6,615 posts)And bomb Putin's Pleasure Palace to rubble.
L. Coyote
(51,129 posts)International Museum of Global Corruption
sop
(10,090 posts)world wide wally
(21,734 posts)Just help yourself.
txwhitedove
(3,926 posts)GoCubsGo
(32,073 posts)New York and Miami are full of Russian-owned property. As Horation Caine of "CSI: Miami" would say, "Take 'em."
Farmer-Rick
(10,134 posts)Does Putin still own it?
It's an historic estate on the Eastern Shore of Maryland and a playground for Russian oligarchs and their mistresses. Just wondered if we got it back yet? Why would we even do such a stupid thing as give it to a know dictator? Oh, right the Dumbass who use to be president.
I_UndergroundPanther
(12,462 posts)Are cavorting around in maryland!??
Fuckin detain these rich fuckers..and ask some pointed questions and seize everything they own.
Farmer-Rick
(10,134 posts)But they probably still sent their elite staff there. They were using it to spy on us under Obama who took it away from them. But it was actually turned over to Russia in the 1970s under Nixon for a measly $3 million.
The Russian oligarchs and government officials saw it as their dacha, a second house for summer vacations and good times. You know those Russian oligarchs can't possibly stay in hotels like everyone else....unless it's Trump's hotel (A bribe to a US president that has been approved by the Supreme Court).
gab13by13
(21,234 posts)ban his exports of fossil fuels, yow.