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blue-wave

(4,374 posts)
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:05 PM Feb 2022

Kyiv: Russia's offensive on Ukraine stalled

As of 20:00 Kyiv time, the situation in the Donetsk region is tense, but controlled by the Ukrainian Joint Forces, reports General Staff of the Ukrainian Armed Forces. Russian troops continue intensive shelling.

Despite numerous air, artillery and missile strikes, as well as a large number of armored vehicles, Russian troops could not move deeper into Ukraine in the eastern part of the country. Ukrainian military managed to repel attacks and keep all key locations and infrastructure.

Fierce fighting is happening in the Luhansk region near the towns of Shchastya, Stanytsia Luhanska, Lobacheve, Bilovodsk, Starobilsk. During the battle for Shchastia, two Russian tanks were destroyed, and one tank and one ZU-23-2 cannon were captured by Ukrainian forces.

Near Sentyanivka, Ukrainian artillery stopped Russian mixed column of armored vehicles, trucks and multiple rocket launcher systems.

In the Donetsk region, there is intense fighting near Novotroitske, Novognativske, Pavlopiv and Pischevyk.

As of now, there have been no new attempts by Russian troops to break through the defense lines, there is also a decrease in fire activity in some directions.

https://uawire.org/kyiv-russia-s-offensive-on-ukraine-stalled#

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Kyiv: Russia's offensive on Ukraine stalled (Original Post) blue-wave Feb 2022 OP
If only we armed them better, radius777 Feb 2022 #1
But at least... orwell Feb 2022 #4
Some body bags going back to Russia. everyonematters Feb 2022 #2
Wrong. They brought mobile crematories to burn the bodies nt Wicked Blue Feb 2022 #6
I wonder how "thrilled" the Russian troops are... orwell Feb 2022 #3
I was thinking about Mayor Vitali Klitschko and boxing strategy C_U_L8R Feb 2022 #5
If there is a sense that the Russians morale is not that great... Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #9
I'm wondering why it is stalled. Eko Feb 2022 #7
Probably a number of issues.... Happy Hoosier Feb 2022 #8
some of that could be what is happening, Eko Feb 2022 #12
I think we have to consider that some of this has the flavor of the Iraqi Press Secretary greenjar_01 Feb 2022 #10
A lot of the Russian troops are drafted. Texaswitchy Feb 2022 #11
This tracks with other reporting BannonsLiver Feb 2022 #13

radius777

(3,635 posts)
1. If only we armed them better,
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:06 PM
Feb 2022

but we lost 4 years with Trump in power.

Basically if they had a more powerful military that could damage the Russians more, it is possible Putin would have never invaded.

orwell

(7,781 posts)
3. I wonder how "thrilled" the Russian troops are...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:10 PM
Feb 2022

...about "dear leader's" orders.

Nothing like killing your brethren to protect "the fatherland".

(pssst...They're not brown...they look just like you and probably speak Russian as well as you do...)

Have another Stoli Boris. It's only going to get worse...

C_U_L8R

(45,033 posts)
5. I was thinking about Mayor Vitali Klitschko and boxing strategy
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:12 PM
Feb 2022

Facing a stronger opponent, wouldn't you want to draw them in, spend lots of energy, rope a dope and then unleash clobber on a frustrated, off-plan and tired foe?

Happy Hoosier

(7,455 posts)
9. If there is a sense that the Russians morale is not that great...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:21 PM
Feb 2022

... then a strong resistance up front might shake their confidence. There's a big difference between advancing without resistance and having to fight for every mile.

Remember back in the Iraq war when there was hand-wringing about any delay? That's gotta be a lot worse for them right now.


Eko

(7,409 posts)
7. I'm wondering why it is stalled.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:35 PM
Feb 2022

While their Air power is small compared to us it is far more than Ukraine has. Same with their tanks. Either putin is seeing what NATO and the rest of the world will do with his small incursions or something else is going on.

Happy Hoosier

(7,455 posts)
8. Probably a number of issues....
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:18 PM
Feb 2022

1) Coordinating such a massive operation is not easy. The U.S. is pretty much the only power with a lot of relatively recent experience.
2) Russia has some professional troops,. but a lot of its troops are poorly trained by Western standards. That makes this kind of movement even harder.
3) Poor logistics. There's an old saying.... amateurs talk tactics, professionals talk logistics. Ties in heavily to number 1.
4) Iffy equipment. The majority of Russian equipment is old and poorly maintained.
5) The Ukrainians are fighting for their lives. Morale matters.

BUT.... I doubt this stall lasts. Russia has a lot of hardware and people there. Eventually that force will be brought to bear. And Putin has a lot on the line. He will pour resources into this.

Still... I doubt this is going nearly as well as he'd hoped.

Eko

(7,409 posts)
12. some of that could be what is happening,
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:55 PM
Feb 2022

But their military has become very modern in the past decade. https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/27/world/europe/russia-military-putin-ukraine.html
I think it might be more that putin doesn't really want a big war and he is looking to save face and pressure for a better diplomatic outcome with his minor incursions. Or not, what do I know?

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
10. I think we have to consider that some of this has the flavor of the Iraqi Press Secretary
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:25 PM
Feb 2022

Baghdad Bob

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