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Nevilledog

(55,080 posts)
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:49 PM Feb 2022

Konstantin Buynichev, head of RU tactical unit surrendered together with his comrades.



Tweet text:

Yevgeny (Eugene) Vindman
@YVindman
There will be more of this. Russian military morale must be incredibly low. They do not want to kill their former countrymen. Anti-war protests in Russia will continue to grow.

olexander scherba🇺🇦
@olex_scherba
Konstantin Buynichev, head of RU tactical unit surrendered together with his comrades.
“We didn’t want to kill anyone…”.
#UkraineUnderAttack #StandWithUkraine
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5:32 PM · Feb 24, 2022


This is tweeted by one of the Vindmans so I give it more credibility than some rando.
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Konstantin Buynichev, head of RU tactical unit surrendered together with his comrades. (Original Post) Nevilledog Feb 2022 OP
Wow! These are the real heroes nt MerryHolidays Feb 2022 #1
Yup! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #2
I'm sure many in Ukraine are grateful but would disagree that THEY are the real heroes. NT SayItLoud Feb 2022 #48
I disagree. Russians and Ukrainians have historically been very close MerryHolidays Feb 2022 #49
I hope he and his troops can get asylum if they want it COL Mustard Feb 2022 #50
What about their families? wryter2000 Feb 2022 #52
Not surprising. These are passionately devoted people lindysalsagal Feb 2022 #3
More proof Pootin is in the "Bat Shit Crazy" category for me. The Russian people don't want this ... uponit7771 Feb 2022 #4
I'm thinking he's working on moving beyond Ukraine. C Moon Feb 2022 #25
+1, I think China is card. He's acting as if he has a backer and its them there's no way he uponit7771 Feb 2022 #32
China is acting in its own self interest, playing both sides. If Putin wins then the Far East OnDoutside Feb 2022 #36
"Ukraine" not "the Ukraine" please lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author Mary in S. Carolina Feb 2022 #5
Hope they surrendered sincerely wnylib Feb 2022 #28
Most likely will be held, even if authorities would like to believe their intentions. lagomorph777 Feb 2022 #43
Malcolm Nance retweeted some similar stories. GoCubsGo Feb 2022 #6
wouldn't that be something, if there was a mass resignation... bahboo Feb 2022 #7
Basically what Russian Military did in WW1 Captain Zero Feb 2022 #45
Impressive Hekate Feb 2022 #8
I sure hope his and his soldiers' families won't suffer repercussions. MLAA Feb 2022 #9
+1 GoodRaisin Feb 2022 #20
I assume they'll be in big trouble Hav Feb 2022 #10
Huge trouble. I'm guessing the consequences would still be awful Hortensis Feb 2022 #35
Putin is on a single minded path and no one, BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #11
Sound like anyone else we know? durablend Feb 2022 #14
There has to be a military coup. SergeStorms Feb 2022 #17
Hell yeah! And to finish his sentence, 'for rich oligarchs who could give a shit ffr Feb 2022 #12
The same could be said about the way the US military is used. FoxNewsSucks Feb 2022 #23
IKR? I thought GWB's statement chastising Putin for invading Ukraine was rich. OMGWTF Feb 2022 #41
They certainly can't go back to Russia. gab13by13 Feb 2022 #13
Not if Putin is in power. cab67 Feb 2022 #40
I wondered about that. Do we have propaganda in place? nolabear Feb 2022 #15
Cha, you know what to do! ffr Feb 2022 #16
Great news. Take that Putin! Joinfortmill Feb 2022 #18
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Feb 2022 #19
KICK orangecrush Feb 2022 #21
Why hasn't the media reported this....because others would do the same thing.... turbinetree Feb 2022 #22
NPR mentioned it briefly. wnylib Feb 2022 #29
Thank you.... turbinetree Feb 2022 #38
This man and his comrades are heros MustLoveBeagles Feb 2022 #24
I hope everyone's safe! calimary Feb 2022 #26
I read this earlier. It's a great morale boost for Ukrainians and/or anyone supporting their effort peggysue2 Feb 2022 #27
than man is a bigger hero than all repuke gun humpers combined Skittles Feb 2022 #30
Iconic moment to remind us that Putin is only one guy. SleeplessinSoCal Feb 2022 #31
Great link. Thanks for posting this! Quakerfriend Feb 2022 #34
K&R, uponit7771 Feb 2022 #33
"We didn't want to kill anyone..." Kid Berwyn Feb 2022 #37
Ukraine Should Offer Blanket Amnesty... ruet Feb 2022 #39
Apparently they weren't ready to kill or die for Putin's ego. patphil Feb 2022 #44
K & R & Retweeted! SunSeeker Feb 2022 #46
We are witnessing the DOWNFALL of Putin Obvious85 Feb 2022 #47
K&R BlueWavePsych Feb 2022 #51
Perhaps the Russian troop were sold the same story Aussie105 Feb 2022 #53
+1, I don't think Putrid told anyone anything to keep surprise but Biden put his shit on the street uponit7771 Feb 2022 #54

SayItLoud

(1,774 posts)
48. I'm sure many in Ukraine are grateful but would disagree that THEY are the real heroes. NT
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:21 PM
Feb 2022

Just sayin.

MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
49. I disagree. Russians and Ukrainians have historically been very close
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:32 PM
Feb 2022

If this is not propaganda, these soldiers were probably forced into joining the Russian military. By surrendering like they did, they may have saved many lives, including their own, but at great risk to themselves either from Ukraine or Russia if they ever make it back home. They did not want to murder people.

I hope there are many more episodes like this.

COL Mustard

(8,218 posts)
50. I hope he and his troops can get asylum if they want it
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:35 PM
Feb 2022

It wouldn't be pretty if they go back to Mother Russia.

lindysalsagal

(22,915 posts)
3. Not surprising. These are passionately devoted people
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:54 PM
Feb 2022

Who were fooling themselves into giving vlad more respect than he deserves. Russians and Ukrainians are tough survivors. They're not pushovers.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
4. More proof Pootin is in the "Bat Shit Crazy" category for me. The Russian people don't want this ...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 09:57 PM
Feb 2022

... and its showing up in troop morale.

C Moon

(13,643 posts)
25. I'm thinking he's working on moving beyond Ukraine.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:16 AM
Feb 2022

Last edited Sun Feb 27, 2022, 09:10 PM - Edit history (1)

And it's scary that China is refusing to condemn Putin.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
32. +1, I think China is card. He's acting as if he has a backer and its them there's no way he
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 02:41 AM
Feb 2022

... goes into UKR and takes over the country.

My understanding is he's getting a lot of backlash from Russian people

OnDoutside

(20,868 posts)
36. China is acting in its own self interest, playing both sides. If Putin wins then the Far East
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 08:42 AM
Feb 2022

countries come into play for the Chinese "sphere of influence". If he loses, then it clears the deck as regards China v The West.

Response to Nevilledog (Original post)

wnylib

(26,014 posts)
28. Hope they surrendered sincerely
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 01:19 AM
Feb 2022

and are not implanting themselves there to observe Ukraine from inside.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
43. Most likely will be held, even if authorities would like to believe their intentions.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 04:01 PM
Feb 2022

I'm sure they expected that.

GoCubsGo

(34,914 posts)
6. Malcolm Nance retweeted some similar stories.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:15 PM
Feb 2022

Along with others that are reporting heavy Russian losses. He's also another that isn't going to spread questionable stuff.

https://twitter.com/MalcolmNance

bahboo

(16,953 posts)
7. wouldn't that be something, if there was a mass resignation...
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:19 PM
Feb 2022

in the Russian military....

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
35. Huge trouble. I'm guessing the consequences would still be awful
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 07:26 AM
Feb 2022

even if the action was militarily justified. Seemingly they were a reconnaisance unit, but I'm guessing they were trained to fight when necessary. Well, good luck to them.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
11. Putin is on a single minded path and no one,
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:40 PM
Feb 2022

including Ukrainian citizens, Russian citizens and the Russian military will influence him. He is laser focused and even though he seems unhinged he will continue on this crazy fight. He thinks the history books where he is the victor will be his legacy. That is all he cares about...his legacy.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
17. There has to be a military coup.
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:50 PM
Feb 2022

A few, key Russian Generals have to put their heads together and come up with a plan to remove Putin from power.

It had better be swift, and it had better be certain. If Putin escapes, power intact, blood will run in the streets. But it has to be done.

Odd, I should be talking about this, considering the Big Orange Pig's attempt at a coup, but he was wrong and didn't have the support of the military.

ffr

(23,398 posts)
12. Hell yeah! And to finish his sentence, 'for rich oligarchs who could give a shit
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:43 PM
Feb 2022

about soldiers.

Let word of this spread!!!

FoxNewsSucks

(11,704 posts)
23. The same could be said about the way the US military is used.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:10 AM
Feb 2022

Bush's war for oil was exactly that.

OMGWTF

(5,131 posts)
41. IKR? I thought GWB's statement chastising Putin for invading Ukraine was rich.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 03:57 PM
Feb 2022

My son joined the USCG Reserves in 2007 when GWB was in office and the recruiter told us point blank, that he'd would probably get sent overseas and that it's all about the oil. He spent almost a year in Kuwait protecting the oil passageway, he also went to South Korea, and spent almost a year in Cuba. One weekend a month and two weeks a year, my ass! He's full-time career USCG and has grown to love his job leading the team that inspects cargo ships coming into the US.

nolabear

(43,850 posts)
15. I wondered about that. Do we have propaganda in place?
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 10:46 PM
Feb 2022

I mean that in the positive sense—“We’re here. The rest of the world knows you don’t want this. Come let us help you find a way out.”

turbinetree

(27,549 posts)
22. Why hasn't the media reported this....because others would do the same thing....
Thu Feb 24, 2022, 11:58 PM
Feb 2022

and then Putin will be up to his eyes balls in shit.....is Col. Vindman stating this when he is being interviewed....

calimary

(90,021 posts)
26. I hope everyone's safe!
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 12:36 AM
Feb 2022

I kept hearing about how "hysterical" his most recent speech was - as in "hysterics", NOT "hysterically funny".

Makes one wonder whether he's starting to unspool. Especially if the negative reaction at home starts growing. If he thought he'd score here, and he's surrounded by bad reviews, he's not gonna be in a good mood...

peggysue2

(12,533 posts)
27. I read this earlier. It's a great morale boost for Ukrainians and/or anyone supporting their effort
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 01:06 AM
Feb 2022

However, just watched an interview on the 11th hour where it was suggested that the really hardened Russian troops will be coming in after this first wave and without a way to resupply the Ukrainians--food, arms, whatever--this will be very difficult to sustain.

Still, the Ukrainian performance today was . . . impressive to say the least. They've lived up to Zelensky's promise: The Russians will see our faces, not our backs. They also ruined Putin's glorious blitzkrieg!

Bravo! The world is watching with great respect. Along with great heartbreak.

SleeplessinSoCal

(10,412 posts)
31. Iconic moment to remind us that Putin is only one guy.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 02:33 AM
Feb 2022
Moscow coup 1991: With Boris Yeltsin on the tank

Two men who stood shoulder to shoulder with Boris Yeltsin to defy the attempted hardline coup in Moscow in 1991 look back on the critical hours when Russian democracy was saved - and share their disappointment with the society that has emerged.

It is one of the abiding images of modern Russian history, the famous picture of Boris Yeltsin speaking on a tank outside the parliament in Moscow on 19 August 1991.


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-14589691.amp

Kid Berwyn

(24,395 posts)
37. "We didn't want to kill anyone..."
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 08:55 AM
Feb 2022

Compare what the Russian soldier said with an American Trumpist:

“How many elections are they going to steal before we kill these people?”

ruet

(10,278 posts)
39. Ukraine Should Offer Blanket Amnesty...
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:39 AM
Feb 2022

to Russian soldiers who abandon thier campaign and stay.

Obvious85

(262 posts)
47. We are witnessing the DOWNFALL of Putin
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:14 PM
Feb 2022

Russians have had enough of the Authoritarian Narcissist, he demands they kill their own countrymen for his pleasure and profit. They see right through it. Arrest him and DRAG HIS WEAK BODY THROUGH THE VILLAGE SQUARE AND MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF HIM

Aussie105

(7,920 posts)
53. Perhaps the Russian troop were sold the same story
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 07:33 PM
Feb 2022

we recognize as propaganda?

They were sent in as a peacekeeping force to 'protect' the Russian citizens of Ukraine from the 'nasty' Ukrainian people?

Instead, they entered a scenario where resistance was encountered and street to street fighting was required.

The citizens of Ukraine and Russia have too much in common for that to happen, in the minds of some Russian soldiers.

Hoping the feeling spreads. And Vlad's dream of rebuilding the (imaginary) grandeur of the old USSR goes up in smoke.

NATO is sending extra weapons to Ukraine.
The US and other countries might want to start making rebuilding plans for when this is over, the destruction of infrastructure and dwellings is horrendous.
Assuming Ukraine stays out of Vlad's hands of course.
As it is in every post war scenario, civilians suffer the most and the longest.

uponit7771

(93,532 posts)
54. +1, I don't think Putrid told anyone anything to keep surprise but Biden put his shit on the street
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 07:51 PM
Feb 2022

... and few to no one listened.

Rick guy with the glasses is trying to say it was lack of imagination, no ... it was peoples lack of listening to credible sources ... like Hillary

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