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yaesu

(8,020 posts)
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:39 PM Feb 2022

Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Russian president Vladimir Putin are discussing a place

to hold talks, according to a spokesperson for Zelenskiy. just reported on the guardian. Well, we know pooty can't be trusted but what other options does Zelenskiy have? I think he has his people on his mind when reaching out to monster putin, they are now dealing with empty stores, loss of power, water, ect..., not just bombs and bullets.

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Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Russian president Vladimir Putin are discussing a place (Original Post) yaesu Feb 2022 OP
It may be too soon to be hopeful...but still I am. n/t CaliforniaPeggy Feb 2022 #1
How about Hell Vlad, you can get a head start. CentralMass Feb 2022 #2
Lol SheltieLover Feb 2022 #3
In the same room? blogslug Feb 2022 #4
God, I hope not. Putin the Poisoner will kill him with polonium. zuul Feb 2022 #17
Schedule the talks in a NATO country. lpbk2713 Feb 2022 #5
Great idea! SheltieLover Feb 2022 #8
Putrid. That's good. lpbk2713 Feb 2022 #12
Fkr is putrid & untrustworthy SheltieLover Feb 2022 #13
Yeah... Belarus (with the Combover King of The East) should be taken off the table. nt Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #6
I don't trust Putin, period. Tommy Carcetti Feb 2022 #7
He has never had any integrity. Sleezy little slime ball SheltieLover Feb 2022 #10
I favor an ice pick. radius777 Feb 2022 #14
I suspect that because the war isn't going so well for Putin and the worldwide condemnation, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #9
Yep. Itchinjim Feb 2022 #11
Taking on NATO would be suicide for Russia, period. radius777 Feb 2022 #16
An occupation would be counterproductive, that would unite the Russian people, MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #18
A temporary occupation, like in WWII. radius777 Feb 2022 #23
Ok, I see your point and I do agree that a temporary occupation would be feasible. MarineCombatEngineer Feb 2022 #24
yep, pretty much. nt yaesu Feb 2022 #20
I suppose you have to give this a chance but it might be a Putin trick. honest.abe Feb 2022 #15
Zelensky would not be taken alive, IMO. radius777 Feb 2022 #19
Liable to ambush Zelensky or arrest him if he meets him anywhere in Russian controlled territory. Thomas Hurt Feb 2022 #21
Could Ukraine give them the small breakaway regions along the East border? Quixote1818 Feb 2022 #22
Putin would want the Donbas as well as a puppet gov't. radius777 Feb 2022 #26
Zelensky is a good man, he cares very deeply for his country and it's ppl. He may think they can't PortTack Feb 2022 #25
Zoom call, at least to start. There's no need to meet in person. crickets Feb 2022 #27
Ehhhh........ Bayard Feb 2022 #28
President Zelenskyy. roamer65 Feb 2022 #29

zuul

(14,624 posts)
17. God, I hope not. Putin the Poisoner will kill him with polonium.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:08 PM
Feb 2022

Or have him shoved out a window.

lpbk2713

(42,753 posts)
5. Schedule the talks in a NATO country.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:46 PM
Feb 2022


And then arrest Putin for war crimes.

Beat him at his own game. The Russians don't really like him,
so they won't be real quick in coming to his defense. They will
actually be better off without him.

SheltieLover

(57,073 posts)
8. Great idea!
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

I d9n't think they should meet.

Nothing to discuss really. Putrid needs to gtf out of his neighbor's country, including Crimea. Now!

Tommy Carcetti

(43,173 posts)
7. I don't trust Putin, period.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:48 PM
Feb 2022

At this point, the only endgame I want to see for Putin involves a bunker and a shotgun.

Or he could simply stroke out and die in his own piss like Stalin did. That would work, too.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,363 posts)
9. I suspect that because the war isn't going so well for Putin and the worldwide condemnation,
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 05:49 PM
Feb 2022

his military advisors, the Oligarchs are putting enormous pressure on Putin to negotiate a settlement.

The Russian military must be thinking that if they can't beat the Ukrainain's easily, then taking on NATO would be suicide for the Russian military.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
16. Taking on NATO would be suicide for Russia, period.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:06 PM
Feb 2022

Such a conflict, which would be WWIII, would result in Russia being conquered and occupied by the West - and they know it.

MarineCombatEngineer

(12,363 posts)
18. An occupation would be counterproductive, that would unite the Russian people,
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:10 PM
Feb 2022

like it did when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, a better outcome would be NATO pushing the Russian military back to their borders and demanding the handover of Putin and his inner circle for prosecution before the ICC for crimes against humanity and whatever else they can think of.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
23. A temporary occupation, like in WWII.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:15 PM
Feb 2022

We would have to help rebuild to some extent, like we did for Germany and Japan.

Simply getting rid of Putin isn't really enough to prevent another rogue Russia from emerging.

honest.abe

(8,675 posts)
15. I suppose you have to give this a chance but it might be a Putin trick.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:06 PM
Feb 2022

I would not be surprised to see Putin bring along bunch of goons to arrest Zelensky.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
19. Zelensky would not be taken alive, IMO.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:10 PM
Feb 2022

He has special forces around him, which likely are moving him to secret locations. If cornerned he likely would go down fighting.

Quixote1818

(28,928 posts)
22. Could Ukraine give them the small breakaway regions along the East border?
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:15 PM
Feb 2022

Sounds like they want to be part of Russia anyways? Then build your the Ukraine military big time to prevent Putin from every attempting something like this again.

radius777

(3,635 posts)
26. Putin would want the Donbas as well as a puppet gov't.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:21 PM
Feb 2022

Putin's actions in Ukraine are all about purging pro-democracy/pro-West elements from the country and restoring a Russian puppet of the type that was toppled in 2014.

PortTack

(32,754 posts)
25. Zelensky is a good man, he cares very deeply for his country and it's ppl. He may think they can't
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 06:19 PM
Feb 2022

Keep fighting. If so, it’s a sad time, but the losses may be to heavy for them to continue

crickets

(25,962 posts)
27. Zoom call, at least to start. There's no need to meet in person.
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 08:42 PM
Feb 2022

I don't trust Putin around tea, water bottles, umbrellas, windows - or anywhere, really.

Bayard

(22,057 posts)
28. Ehhhh........
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:40 AM
Feb 2022

Cheese, meet mousetrap.

What's to discuss? Zelenskiy's surrender? No. Send representatives, like Blinkin, McFaul, or John Kerry.

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