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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUkrainian president Volodymyr Zelenskiy and Russian president Vladimir Putin are discussing a place
to hold talks, according to a spokesperson for Zelenskiy. just reported on the guardian. Well, we know pooty can't be trusted but what other options does Zelenskiy have? I think he has his people on his mind when reaching out to monster putin, they are now dealing with empty stores, loss of power, water, ect..., not just bombs and bullets.
CaliforniaPeggy
(149,583 posts)CentralMass
(15,265 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Great idea!
blogslug
(37,997 posts)eeks
zuul
(14,624 posts)Or have him shoved out a window.
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)And then arrest Putin for war crimes.
Beat him at his own game. The Russians don't really like him,
so they won't be real quick in coming to his defense. They will
actually be better off without him.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I d9n't think they should meet.
Nothing to discuss really. Putrid needs to gtf out of his neighbor's country, including Crimea. Now!
lpbk2713
(42,753 posts)First time I've heard (seen) that.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Carlitos Brigante
(26,500 posts)Tommy Carcetti
(43,173 posts)At this point, the only endgame I want to see for Putin involves a bunker and a shotgun.
Or he could simply stroke out and die in his own piss like Stalin did. That would work, too.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)I don't think they should meet!
radius777
(3,635 posts)We should work with pro-democracy forces within Russia to take him out.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)his military advisors, the Oligarchs are putting enormous pressure on Putin to negotiate a settlement.
The Russian military must be thinking that if they can't beat the Ukrainain's easily, then taking on NATO would be suicide for the Russian military.
Itchinjim
(3,085 posts)radius777
(3,635 posts)Such a conflict, which would be WWIII, would result in Russia being conquered and occupied by the West - and they know it.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)like it did when Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, a better outcome would be NATO pushing the Russian military back to their borders and demanding the handover of Putin and his inner circle for prosecution before the ICC for crimes against humanity and whatever else they can think of.
radius777
(3,635 posts)We would have to help rebuild to some extent, like we did for Germany and Japan.
Simply getting rid of Putin isn't really enough to prevent another rogue Russia from emerging.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,363 posts)yaesu
(8,020 posts)honest.abe
(8,675 posts)I would not be surprised to see Putin bring along bunch of goons to arrest Zelensky.
radius777
(3,635 posts)He has special forces around him, which likely are moving him to secret locations. If cornerned he likely would go down fighting.
Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)Quixote1818
(28,928 posts)Sounds like they want to be part of Russia anyways? Then build your the Ukraine military big time to prevent Putin from every attempting something like this again.
radius777
(3,635 posts)Putin's actions in Ukraine are all about purging pro-democracy/pro-West elements from the country and restoring a Russian puppet of the type that was toppled in 2014.
PortTack
(32,754 posts)Keep fighting. If so, its a sad time, but the losses may be to heavy for them to continue
crickets
(25,962 posts)I don't trust Putin around tea, water bottles, umbrellas, windows - or anywhere, really.
Bayard
(22,057 posts)Cheese, meet mousetrap.
What's to discuss? Zelenskiy's surrender? No. Send representatives, like Blinkin, McFaul, or John Kerry.
roamer65
(36,745 posts)Aim well, please.