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TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 10:22 PM Feb 2022

Trump has reportedly discussed withdrawing from NATO. That would be great for Russia (2019)

I guess Trump saying there would not been a major invasion if he was President would be correct assuming that Trump would have gotten his way and withheld millions in aid to Ukraine so that Russia would have been able to roll in unopposed through Ukraine and perhaps through the rest of Europe.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/1/15/18183759/trump-pull-out-of-nato-nyt-mattis

President Donald Trump has reportedly suggested on multiple occasions that the United States withdraw from NATO — a maneuver that would roil the global community and signal a major victory for Russia.

Julian Barnes and Helene Cooper at the New York Times reported on Tuesday that in 2018, Trump said several times that he wanted to remove the US from the North Atlantic Treaty Organization, a military alliance between the US, Canada, and multiple European countries signed in 1949 to contain Soviet expansionism after World War II.

Trump has made no secret of his disdain for NATO, which he once declared was “obsolete.” According to the Times, his repeated requests to withdraw from NATO have rattled administration officials, especially as concerns about his interactions with Russia and President Vladimir Putin grow.

The report details officials’ efforts to keep Trump contained during the NATO summit in Brussels last July, including pushing ambassadors to finish an agreement on several goals before the meeting to “shield it” from Trump. He discussed internal business in front of nonmembers of NATO, bucking protocol, and complained — as he often does publicly — that NATO members aren’t spending enough on defense.
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Trump has reportedly discussed withdrawing from NATO. That would be great for Russia (2019) (Original Post) TomCADem Feb 2022 OP
Once again, proving that Trump is a Russian asset. sakabatou Feb 2022 #1
Putin had no need to invade while Trump was in office EarlG Feb 2022 #2
Can this be spread on the internets, EarlG? blm Feb 2022 #3
K&R UTUSN Feb 2022 #4
If TFG had been successful in 'breaking' NATO, Putin might not have invaded Ukraine. He sinkingfeeling Feb 2022 #5

EarlG

(21,947 posts)
2. Putin had no need to invade while Trump was in office
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 10:38 PM
Feb 2022

Trump was weakening the U.S., and NATO, on a daily basis. There was no point in Putin pulling the trigger while that was going on — might as well let Trump have at it.

If Trump had won a second term, Putin would have continued this game for another four years, or until he figured he’d done enough damage and an invasion could commence.

If Putin had opted to invade Ukraine during Trump’s second term, Trump would have HELPED him. He would have used the presidential bully pulpit to promote the Kremlin line that Ukraine is full of Nazis and terrorists and that Vlad was merely liberating them from their oppressors — you know, those rotten bastards who spoiled his perfect phone call and were in cahoots with Hunter Biden. (You can hear the echoes of this right now on Fox News, although even Tucker Carlson seems to have figured out that it’s not working without Trump in power.)

But as soon as Trump lost, Putin knew he had a limited time to make a move because Biden would start rebuilding the alliances that Trump was trying to wreck. That’s why if he wanted to do it, he would have to do it now. I’d say it’s working out nowhere near as well for him as it would have if Trump had won a second term. Imagine NATO trying to form a coherent response with that dipshit running interference for Putin.

sinkingfeeling

(51,454 posts)
5. If TFG had been successful in 'breaking' NATO, Putin might not have invaded Ukraine. He
Fri Feb 25, 2022, 11:27 PM
Feb 2022

would have arranged to 'take out' Zelensky, one way or another.

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