My wife and a friend in Vancouver asked me if this is WW3 or not.

[AZLD4Candidate]

I said. . .depends on Russia.

[elleng]

1. NO, this is putin's war, damaging but limited;

let's not exaggerate.

[MerryHolidays]

4. I am not sure on what possible basis you claim someone is "exaggerating"

I doubt you have an insight comparable to President Biden. He's about the only person I trust on this issue.

Anything is possible. For example, SoS Blinken has clearly indicated that Putin has his eyes set beyond Ukraine. I doubt you would have said that Poland in 1939 was "Hitler's war." The fact of the matter is that neither you nor I know what's going to happen.

I hope you're right, but, with all due respect, I will take my guidance from President Biden. That's why I voted for him.

Until then, Ukraine's war is MY war, as it is an affront to people of goodwill everywhere, most especially the Ukrainians. It is most emphatically not "Putin's war."

[elleng]

8. 'asking' if it's WW III AT THIS POINT is many steps too far,

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and I trust President Biden, his advisors, NATO, EU and others to keep a lid on it.

[MerryHolidays]

13. You do understand that WW II started on September 1, 1939, right?

Do you think folks at that moment thought it was a world war? Indeed, folks referred to it as a "phony war" nearly 9 months.

Wait and see what happens, rather than making definitive statements based on your gut reactions. I truly hope you are right, but you don't know any more than anyone else knows.

[BlackSkimmer]

28. I agree. nt

[MerryHolidays]

22. Here's the latest from the murdering Moscow madman

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-kyiv-business-europe-moscow-2e4e1cf784f22b6afbe5a2f936725550

Other than North Korea, I'm not sure how many times a nuclear power has threatened something like this. But this is a clear sign that the Ukraine war can escalate into something much larger very quickly.

As someone upthread suggested, hopefully, Putin has sane people around him advising not to use nuclear weapons. This threat, however, lowers my confidence.

[Demsrule86]

23. Putin is very unstable IMHO...I think he may be crazy. And if he nukes someone...it is WWIII.

[Tickle]

2. It all depends on

Russia. Hopefully the Russians will protest and Putin will be stopped by someone something

[elleng]

15. Russian people and others; seems we're seeing a lot of opposition AROUND THE WORLD;

China even stepped aside today. 'Russia Vetoes UN Resolution as China Abstains.'

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-02-25/russian-attacks-continue-ahead-of-nato-summit-ukraine-update

[MerryHolidays]

18. Abstaining is as good as saying yes. nt

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[roamer65]

3. If Putin is truly mentally compromised, it could be WW3.

[ruet]

5. Nonsense.

Who's fighting along side of Poot'n in this "world war"?

[MerryHolidays]

6. China, perhaps. Do you think they are our ally?

Japan was not invading Europe in the 1930s.

Don't be so condescending to folks.

[ruet]

11. Yes, China is...

going to risk everything they've built over the last 50 years for Poot'n. Quit Doom'n.

[MerryHolidays]

14. The point is that none of us know what's going to happen.

Putin is unstable, and it's not clear what he's going to do. That's the basic point.

I hope you are right, but I trust Joe Biden most of all. Right not, SoS Blinken says that anything is possible including further invasions.

[ruet]

19. Caution Is Warranted For Joe.

It's his job to, seriously, consider all possibilities. But always remember. Poot'n is surrounded by people who, above all else, want to live. There will be no nuclear exchange over Ukraine. It will not be allowed.

[MerryHolidays]

20. That's a rational answer. I agree with you.

But, until this murdering Moscow monster is brought to his knees, anything is possible.

I never thought I would say this, but I miss folks like Leonid Brezhnev, who had the mentality that you point out. I am not sure if Putin does.

[Demsrule86]

29. Thank you...I missed that. Damn that is frightening...I keep thinking what would Hitler have done

with nukes at the end...and Putin seems really off to me at the moment...I can't even imagine such a threat.

[Demsrule86]

24. You assume Putin is in his right mind...I am not sure that is the case. What would Hitler have done

if he had nukes...it gives one pause.

[elleng]

16. Thanks

[roamer65]

7. All you have to do is push a button to start WW3.

[ruet]

12. DOOM!

No, that's not how it's going to work.

[NickB79]

32. You can guarantee that?

No chance whatsoever that Putin will launch nukes?

[ruet]

33. None.

And if he does then I say, "well met".

[elleng]

10. Thanks

[MerryHolidays]

17. Thanks for what? That someone sided with you?

There are other folks saying we don't know. This thing just started two days ago. Do you know what motivated Putin to invade Ukraine? Do you know what else he has in store?

Check his quote two days ago. He's referring to using major weapons.

I know you're very knowledgeable about things, but none of us really know what's in store. Let's see what happens.

[Demsrule86]

25. Completely right Merry...some assume Putin is still Putin...and has a plan and is scheming...but

I think it is possible that he is bat-shit crazy. And God knows what he might do.

[MerryHolidays]

26. Check out my post 22 in this thread

This is today's nuclear threat...

[neverforget]

9. War is chaos and accidents happen. If WW3 were to happen, I believe it would

be accidental such as an errant missile hits a NATO ship or plane.

[Meowmee]

21. I hope not

But who knows. It’s a very dangerous situation obviously. I feel more nervous than ever.

[Patton French]

27. Not yet

With the world united against Putin, he’ll go down quickly if he tries to turn it into WW3.

[hamsterjill]

30. I'm withholding judgment

I’m still wondering what the point is for Putin wanting Chernobyl.

I hope for the best, but those saying this cannot turn in to WWIII are a bit too optimistic for me. I’ll wait a little longer and see.

[MerryHolidays]

31. "The Day After"...for those who say catastrophe is "exaggerated" or "nonsense"

Watch this from 1983, especially after today's nuclear threat by Russia:

I hope to God you're right...I just don't know anymore, especially when a US President was a Russian asset, as are many in Congress even now. This movie was in 1983 when that was unthinkable.