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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:39 AM Feb 2022

Bill Maher insists that Democrats forgive&forget this whole Trump stuff

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2656795610/

"The Republicans are leaving Trump! Now is the time for Democrats to move on and to stop harping about all the bad stuff Republicans have done! Or else it will be YOUR fault that THEY return to Trump-worship!"



These poor, poor Republicans. If only Democrats would forgive&forget, then everything would return to normal.
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Bill Maher insists that Democrats forgive&forget this whole Trump stuff (Original Post) DetlefK Feb 2022 OP
He has been unwatchable for years. orwell Feb 2022 #1
He is becoming a bigger ass by the day. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #5
I walked into my Mom's house... orwell Feb 2022 #45
You are lucky that you didn't watch him during the Covid spikes. BigmanPigman Feb 2022 #64
Yeah by then... orwell Feb 2022 #65
THIS malaise Feb 2022 #40
Treason. Covid dead. Billions dollar grifters. Tetrachloride Feb 2022 #2
Yeah, and it's not like they are leaving Trump and looking for Ron DeSantis, Pompeo or worse. TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #34
I would have a hard time forgiving such things as trying to overturn Wingus Dingus Feb 2022 #3
PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY DetlefK Feb 2022 #6
Good point! Prof. Toru Tanaka Feb 2022 #14
"Come together"!? How bout the GQP stop trying to kill democracy first ... then we'll talk? uponit7771 Feb 2022 #21
Uh, no. I don't think so. smirkymonkey Feb 2022 #4
My sentiments exactly. Solomon Feb 2022 #41
Not as long as he imposes himself as the leader of the Republican Party. everyonematters Feb 2022 #7
Has he lost his freaking mind? Hekate Feb 2022 #8
I agree with Maher. "Welcome back to the wonderful world of reality. You got taken by a salesman, betsuni Feb 2022 #9
I also agree to a point. I don't forgive the politicians that knew better and helped create this Pisces Feb 2022 #16
Yes, agreed with the discussion of the rebuttal. betsuni Feb 2022 #17
Maher is gas lighting as if we can't see GQP pols are still RULED by Putin's Whore. Come on man uponit7771 Feb 2022 #20
It's not about politicians, it's about voters. betsuni Feb 2022 #22
Again their vote is STILL not worth the cost vs turnout and engagement of our base including PoC uponit7771 Feb 2022 #24
The point is more them voting for non-cult Republicans, "indoor Republicans." betsuni Feb 2022 #26
True, but again ... they're expensive ... the CoC and disengaged whites are not. For every dollar uponit7771 Feb 2022 #32
What an insufferable ass vercetti2021 Feb 2022 #10
I could stand Bill Maher until a year or so ago. Music Man Feb 2022 #11
Has Maher slipped into dementia? SunSeeker Feb 2022 #12
Either that or those stupid-looking glasses are giving him rose colored view of things. TheBlackAdder Feb 2022 #33
Tell you what bro, knock yourself out. The rest of us have long Carlitos Brigante Feb 2022 #13
He can go #uck himself. Crunchy Frog Feb 2022 #15
Bill Maher is nothing but a shit-stirring rabble-rouser... IngridsLittleAngel Feb 2022 #18
Gas Lighting bullshit, the republicans ARE NOT leaving Trump. SOME of the base has moved on but uponit7771 Feb 2022 #19
+1 Celerity Feb 2022 #25
This is about the base. betsuni Feb 2022 #27
Their base votes are too expensive and not worth it compared to our base of PoC not being engaged. uponit7771 Feb 2022 #28
It's about swing voters, as the DCCC warning in the segment said. betsuni Feb 2022 #29
Meaning EVERY SINGLE CoC should be engaged the way MINIMUM Stacy Abrams did in GA uponit7771 Feb 2022 #31
Idiocy. highplainsdem Feb 2022 #23
Bill and his skinny girlfriend Ann Coulter can screw off! Emile Feb 2022 #30
Bill Maher is not all that smart and he is a lot like Tucker Carlson in that he says inflammatory .. Botany Feb 2022 #35
Bill Maher is so incredibly weird. Baitball Blogger Feb 2022 #36
Bill is a old libertarian who watch's way too much fox these days. Mr. Sparkle Feb 2022 #37
Fuck you DEAD, Maher. Paladin Feb 2022 #38
What an ass. Scrivener7 Feb 2022 #39
I didn't watch this but he might have a good point . Not that we should not mention the bad things JI7 Feb 2022 #42
He did have a point but no one here will admit it USALiberal Feb 2022 #51
People like that always add something everyone can agree with Hortensis Feb 2022 #55
He needs to shrivel up. LiberalFighter Feb 2022 #43
Who is Bill Maher? Dirty Socialist Feb 2022 #44
So he is saying, toss out the courts and justice system, tavernier Feb 2022 #46
Haven't watched this ass in years and will continue to pass him by - ALWAYS. lark Feb 2022 #47
That's not exactly what Maher's saying gulliver Feb 2022 #48
I watched the show last night, and I agree with most of your post. (nt) Elwood P Dowd Feb 2022 #57
Yeah. People seem more interested in punching down. cinematicdiversions Feb 2022 #59
The OP is inaccurate superpatriotman Feb 2022 #49
Stopped watching Maher when he turned rethugliKKKan. about Nov 9 2020 634-5789 Feb 2022 #50
WHY THE FUCK DO DEMOCRATS STILL WATCH BILL MAHER AND POST ABOUT HIM? milestogo Feb 2022 #52
Bill who? BlueIdaho Feb 2022 #53
I've never understood his popularity, BeckyDem Feb 2022 #54
I thought Ruben Gallego straightened him out on a few issues. kentuck Feb 2022 #56
Maher can get on his knees peggysue2 Feb 2022 #58
I stopped watching his show a long time ago LetMyPeopleVote Feb 2022 #60
It bears repeating: Bill can just go fuck off. Voltaire2 Feb 2022 #61
Right, as soon as they forgive & forget Mr.Bill Feb 2022 #62
example number 256,873,291 why iemanja Feb 2022 #63
Again, I ask: What IS his problem? AngryOldDem Feb 2022 #66
Post-Trump doesn't mean post-Fascist JCMach1 Feb 2022 #67

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
5. He is becoming a bigger ass by the day.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:53 AM
Feb 2022

Last week he made a joke about Ukraine and was dismissive of the entire issue. Bill was already "done with it" and it is no big deal according to him. I had to turn it off. This week I listened for 5 minutes and now he has a different attitude about Ukraine. The dude is an ass.

orwell

(7,771 posts)
45. I walked into my Mom's house...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 09:26 AM
Feb 2022

...and they were watching "both sides Bill."

I hadn't seen him in years. I was appalled at how anti-democrat and pro-CON he had become. He was truly vile in his smug condescension. I had to leave the room, but not before calling him out for the bullshit he was spewing. They looked genuinely shocked that I found him so objectionable.

I have zero patience for this both sides bullshit anymore. Drumpf turned me into a anti-CON fanatic. I feel like I am in Germany in 1938 listening to people tell me that I am over reacting.

"But he gives such a rousing speech!"

Send the "libertarians" to Somalia. I'm sure they'll love the fredumb..."

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
64. You are lucky that you didn't watch him during the Covid spikes.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:11 PM
Feb 2022

He only cared about the money he was losing from not being able to do his live, stand -up shows. He said everyone was overreacting .

orwell

(7,771 posts)
65. Yeah by then...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:32 PM
Feb 2022

...I had detoxed from old Billo.

I probably would have thrown a bottle of hand sanitizer at the screen.

I stopped giving a fuck about him 5 or so years ago. I think I originally started following him when he was going after organized religion, a pet peeve of mine.

I also noticed recently that he seems to pop up a lot with sexual abuser/ drug addict Hugh Hefner during his wild party days at the LA mansion. Those two sleazeballs deserve each other.

Birds of a feather...

Tetrachloride

(7,826 posts)
2. Treason. Covid dead. Billions dollar grifters.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:43 AM
Feb 2022

that dead guy Epstein. Putin. Ukraine. Insurrection

We don’t automatically forgive people who are trying to kill me.

TheBlackAdder

(28,181 posts)
34. Yeah, and it's not like they are leaving Trump and looking for Ron DeSantis, Pompeo or worse.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:19 AM
Feb 2022

.

They are leaving Trump because even Trump isn't extreme enough now.

In a few years, they will lump Trump in the same category a W, GHWB and Reagan -- RINOs.

.

Wingus Dingus

(8,052 posts)
3. I would have a hard time forgiving such things as trying to overturn
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:45 AM
Feb 2022

the election with violence, and siding with Putin. However, we do have to try to come back together as a country or we're doomed. Maybe the best way is to allow Trumpers to slowly drift away from that cult of personality and come back into the fold as fellow Americans, even if we'll never agree on politics--as long as they behave.

DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
6. PERSONAL RESPONSIBILITY
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:53 AM
Feb 2022

Republicans pretend to be the party of personal responsibility.

Then why are Democrats somehow responsible for the political platform of the Republicans????

everyonematters

(3,433 posts)
7. Not as long as he imposes himself as the leader of the Republican Party.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:56 AM
Feb 2022

If he retires from politics, that's something else.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
9. I agree with Maher. "Welcome back to the wonderful world of reality. You got taken by a salesman,
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:58 AM
Feb 2022

it happens to all of us." Falling for bullshit populists doesn't only happen to right-wingers. Anyone who finally wakes up should be encouraged to vote for Democrats. That's the important thing for the country's future.

When the Republican Party was deeply unpopular after the Bush administration, Obama had a message of hope and unity, no "us" vs "them." I agree with When they go low, we go high, don't be the enemy they need.

Pisces

(5,599 posts)
16. I also agree to a point. I don't forgive the politicians that knew better and helped create this
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:17 AM
Feb 2022

Mess we’re in. Out with the lot Cruz, Graham, etc. The people that got sold ie. the voters we can afford to be more generous. He gave solid examples of how it has worked in the past. I don’t think the democrats of a certain age are wanted by the progressive wing of the party. I can’t believe there will be a rebuttal by our own party members at the State of the Union. We are our own worst enemy sometimes.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
17. Yes, agreed with the discussion of the rebuttal.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:24 AM
Feb 2022

It's meant to "articulate a progressive vision. As opposed to what? Joe Biden? Mussolini?" As if the Democratic Party isn't progressive or "too big of a tent" and full of Republicans or something.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
22. It's not about politicians, it's about voters.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:08 AM
Feb 2022

If more Republicans stop voting for Trump cult politicians (Republicans), the better for the country. Provide these voters with "a face-saving path for them to become indoor Republicans again." The Lincoln Project's former Republicans did it, Liz Cheney and Romney want a non-cult Republican Party.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
24. Again their vote is STILL not worth the cost vs turnout and engagement of our base including PoC
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:18 AM
Feb 2022

I guess Maher is still eating the "we can win them" crap

Dems are leaving base votes on the table and its mostly PoC, not the 98% of Trump voters who don't think racism is a deal breaker.

Yes, PoC vote majority Dem but not in the PERCENTAGE of population that white voters vote as a whole.

There SHOULD BE 80% white people voting 80% Hispanic, black etc etc .. there's not.

I understand people who are white being white centric in thinking we can easily or even with moderate resources win Trump voters ... no we can't, there's nothing backing that notion up.

But there's TONS of data backing up the fact that black and Hispanics voters in this country are not engaged BY THE DNC to the degree white voters are and their win over is CHEAP.

Stacy Abrams showed with VERY LITTLE RESOURCES that black voters especially young ones can be engaged to vote dem in turn around numbers.

It's not lack of, for instance, white voters that lost us Miami Dade and South West Texas dem votes in 2020. Those were left on the table for no dem GOTV in those Hispanic areas and radio that blasted GQP bullshit 24/7 with little to no response at first.

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
26. The point is more them voting for non-cult Republicans, "indoor Republicans."
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:24 AM
Feb 2022

The way Liz Cheney and Mitt Romney want a non-cult Republican Party.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
32. True, but again ... they're expensive ... the CoC and disengaged whites are not. For every dollar
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:06 AM
Feb 2022

... we spend on CoC (I'm monetizing for sake of conversation) we spend 2 dollars getting "indoor republican" votes.

They shouldn't be our focus as in saying "lets move on" they should be the peripheral view.

Music Man

(1,184 posts)
11. I could stand Bill Maher until a year or so ago.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 02:59 AM
Feb 2022

I do think he's a good comedian at heart.

But at a certain point, EVERY episode was about criticizing wokeness. Literally every single one. OK, Bill, we get it.

His skepticism about vaccines is also contemptible.

Haven't watched an episode in several weeks (probably going on months now), and I don't miss it.

Carlitos Brigante

(26,500 posts)
13. Tell you what bro, knock yourself out. The rest of us have long
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:02 AM
Feb 2022

memories and a really long list of grievances. Which don't include being mad about being locked in our mansions. Or our building departments not treating us like we're special..... And I'll just close by making that stupid ass face he makes whenever the punch line is supposed to hit. And if you don't laugh it's your fault, because I'm so edgy.

 

IngridsLittleAngel

(1,962 posts)
18. Bill Maher is nothing but a shit-stirring rabble-rouser...
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 03:43 AM
Feb 2022

To anyone who thinks he's an ally, or some sort of progressive voice.... I don't know what to tell you. Bill Maher's purpose is to stir up shit and cause drama.

Even when trying to stir up drama, he can only do such much to hide how fucking far to the right he really is. After all, it's the "woke" who get criticized. It's us Democrats who need to do this or do that. It's his barely-concealed bigotry.

Not only that... What happened the last time we "looked forward" when a Republiqan president committed crimes? We got Drumpf. We forgive and forget and "look forward" on Drumpf, we're going to get even worse out of the QOP. You let little fucks like the QOP get away with shit, and they'll see how much worse they can be the next time around. But then, Billy, I think that's exactly what you want.

Bill Maher is not our friend. And he never has been.

Go model ball gags, Maher.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
19. Gas Lighting bullshit, the republicans ARE NOT leaving Trump. SOME of the base has moved on but
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:00 AM
Feb 2022

... republicans pols are RULED to this second by Putin's Whore.

Fuck Maher and his gas lighting, he's on the take.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
28. Their base votes are too expensive and not worth it compared to our base of PoC not being engaged.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:37 AM
Feb 2022

We spend 2 dollars trying to win over Trump voters while we're leaving black and Hispanic voters on the table that cost .50 cents.

Stacy Abrams showed that in large technicolor

betsuni

(25,449 posts)
29. It's about swing voters, as the DCCC warning in the segment said.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:50 AM
Feb 2022

As Trump loses popularity with the base.

I don't know what you mean about "our base of PoC not being engaged."

Nobody thinks the majority of Republican voters will suddenly vote for Democrats except the economic populists who think there'ill be a working class alliance between right-wing and left-wing populists.

uponit7771

(90,335 posts)
31. Meaning EVERY SINGLE CoC should be engaged the way MINIMUM Stacy Abrams did in GA
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 04:56 AM
Feb 2022

That's ***NOT*** happening by the DNC, not by a long shot.

Maher's thinking gets the DNC spending 2 dollars on swing voters while 1 dollar would get them the same volume in voters from CoC.

Nobody thinks the majority of Republican voters will suddenly vote for Democrats


Nobody said they would either and there ARE swing voters on the table, THEY ARE EXPENSIVE TO TURN RESOURCE WISE.

It's WAY LESS expensive to engage Communities of Color and disengaged white voters.

That's not to say don't spend resources on swing voters at all but that should not be the vast majority or resources.

Bill Clinton and Obama got it right, DO reach out to swing voters but put most of the money and time on engaging dem base votes.

That's the OPPOSITE of what Maher and every right wing analyst say WHEN they say "leave all that behind", bullshit.

You want to deflate that CoC and white disengaged voter base to limpness say "we wont hold all these rich white folks accountable for all the bullshit in the last 5 years".

Even the notion of that is sickening

Botany

(70,483 posts)
35. Bill Maher is not all that smart and he is a lot like Tucker Carlson in that he says inflammatory ..
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 05:20 AM
Feb 2022

... crap just in order "to stir up shit." His act is one of a contrarian. Trump or w Bush in power? Then he
will talk crap about the GOP and now that the Ds are back in power he will take the other side. The only
question is he like Carlson in that he has other people write the words that come out of his mouth.

I was done with Maher when his anti God movie had him making fun of "Good Old Boy" truckers who were
praying at some truck stop. Even though I am not all that religious I wanted a trucker to punch him in his
mouth.

Mr. Sparkle

(2,930 posts)
37. Bill is a old libertarian who watch's way too much fox these days.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 08:03 AM
Feb 2022

he is very close to jumping the shark

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
38. Fuck you DEAD, Maher.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 08:09 AM
Feb 2022

He's no longer even trying to hide the fact that he's a world-class trump whore.

Pull the plug on this creep, people. Crater his ratings and send him into way-overdue retirement.

JI7

(89,244 posts)
42. I didn't watch this but he might have a good point . Not that we should not mention the bad things
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 08:22 AM
Feb 2022

about Republicans but we need to make sure to mention the good things we have done. When there are improvements made because of the bills passed by democrats and signed by Biden we need to make sure people know THIS IS BECAUSE OF DEMOCRATS .

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
55. People like that always add something everyone can agree with
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 12:29 PM
Feb 2022

and respect, usually a number of things, sometimes almost all of a show or article. They camouflage and grease the way down for what is not admirable for some people and provide excuses to support for others.

Watching his show with a notebook and then analyzing should be revealing. Standing firmly against kicking puppies does not somehow erase acting as an asset for Russia's political warfare.

tavernier

(12,375 posts)
46. So he is saying, toss out the courts and justice system,
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 09:33 AM
Feb 2022

unlock the cells and let everyone go free?
Because if we do it for one criminal, we should do it for all.

Say what, Bill, that’s not what you meant?
So in other words, just free the rich, white criminals?

Ok. I get it.

lark

(23,083 posts)
47. Haven't watched this ass in years and will continue to pass him by - ALWAYS.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 10:31 AM
Feb 2022

He is Such a waste of space.

gulliver

(13,180 posts)
48. That's not exactly what Maher's saying
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:26 AM
Feb 2022

Maher simply pointed out that a whole lot of people who were snookered into backing Trump are ripe for the picking as future Dem voters. People make mistakes, and Trump, his harem of Republican Party concubines, and Fox News are exceptionally gifted lie mongers. If Trump voters want to become our allies against the debased and disgraced Republican Party, they're welcome. It would be vindictive and foolhardy to try to cancel them and look down on them for life. That's not liberalism.

Maher's not saying to forgive and forget the Trump stuff. He's saying remember it, but don't be jerks if people want to change.

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
59. Yeah. People seem more interested in punching down.
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:40 PM
Feb 2022

One of the best takeaways if the art of war is to give your enemy a way to retreat and save face. The best way to defeat an enemy is to make them a friend.

superpatriotman

(6,247 posts)
49. The OP is inaccurate
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:47 AM
Feb 2022

What Maher is suggesting is using grace.

Our goal as a party should be to win elections.

Using grace with former dump supporters could help us welcome them back into the realm of the sane and win elections.

It has worked. It will work.

If you don’t understand the difference…

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
52. WHY THE FUCK DO DEMOCRATS STILL WATCH BILL MAHER AND POST ABOUT HIM?
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 11:57 AM
Feb 2022

Maher loves to be deliberately outrageous. The only person in this world that he cares about is himself.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
58. Maher can get on his knees
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 01:01 PM
Feb 2022

For the rest of the Democratic Party, the GOP funding and approval of an attempted coup on January 6th, ignoring the damage Trump did to this country over 4 years was/is unforgivable.

Until they cleanup their own pigpen (or we do it for them), Democrats are not moving on.

Jesus, talk about an appeaser!

JCMach1

(27,555 posts)
67. Post-Trump doesn't mean post-Fascist
Sat Feb 26, 2022, 06:05 PM
Feb 2022

A majority of the party and a big proportion of the base is anti-democracy now.

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