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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsAre there any sanctions on energy?
Are we still buying from Russia? I haven't heard any mention of sanctions on buying oil.
gab13by13
(21,312 posts)If we ban Russia from SWIFT it won't be able to export fossil fuels to Europe and the EU is hesitating enacting this.
President Biden and Canada are discussing doing SWIFT but we need to keep our allies united.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Does Banning SWIFT here affect Europe?
gab13by13
(21,312 posts)Russia would shut the gas off to the EU if the EU did SWIFT, with that said the EU hasn't completely ruled it out.
ChazII
(6,204 posts)I heard that we are still buying from Russia.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)That doesnt help.
It isnt just about what us on a message board think we should do. Would love to stuck it to Russia but if that causes more harm than good it isnt the right thing to do.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)Russia is a huge energy supplier and a disruption in the flow would spike prices and disrupt the economies of western countries.
In regards to this issue Secretary of State Blinken said we didn't want to take an action "that would hurt us".
gab13by13
(21,312 posts)Sign the peace deal with Iran and open its spigots. Get other countries to increase exports.
PoliticAverse
(26,366 posts)couldn't supply more if they wanted to (they do). Saudi or Iran might be able to, but the problem is this isn't about oil, it is mainly about natural gas. Europe either has to covert its NG electrical plants back to coal, which we can supply, or massively cut both its electrical usage and heating / cooking usage of NG.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)apartment buildings are being bombed.
I'd be willing to limit my driving to only necessities. I'd be willing to put the thermostat down to 50. I'd be willing to buy fewer petroleum based products. We should be doing that anyway.
What else would it take? I'd be willing.
It would be the least I could do to support them, and in the long run it would benefit all of us..
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)All those things are awesome and commendable but much of Europe depends on that energy in bogger ways than being a little less comfortable.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)What did *I* miss?
We aren't talking about removing oil-based energy. We're talking about removing one fractional source of it.
So what can't YOU live without? Or more accurately, what can't YOU cut down on?
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)at least not US living in the U.S.
What you are talking about would have drastic effects on people in Europe. Like I said all of the things that you listed are great and commendable.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)It is a finite resource, and the U.S. uses the lion's share of it. Russia's production of it is the basis of Vlad's power.
If we use less, Europe can use more.
Better yet, if we wean ourselves off our addiction, people like Vlad become completely powerless.
CrackityJones75
(2,403 posts)We arent talking about running out of the resource we are talking about the retaliation that Putin would enact.
Forget it yer not engaged in the actual conversation.
Scrivener7
(50,949 posts)BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)Putin will win. Oil money is the only sanction that really matters.
BlueLucy
(1,609 posts)I'm not happy about it. It feels weak.